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Phil725 wrote...

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Got a question for you all. I may get a lot of flak for this but I think it begs questioning. Would it have been better if the relationship between Tali an Shep stayed sort of "platonic" (apologies if im using the term incorrectly). Wouldn't it be more fulfilling than just a quick one night stand? What you think?


That's actually the reason why I'm retroactively happy that Tali wasn't an LI in ME1.  Those all came across as flings/one night stands to me.  What Tali and Shep have now is a lot deeper than that.  Whether or not they have sex (a little late for that either way,) isn't really important to the overall relationship.


I think there are  reasons why sex in a way is the focus of Tali's romance in ME2. It's a lot more than just sex involved really. Tali is at first  more or less resigned to never have a chance of ever getting her hearts desire because she is trapped in her suit. It is so important to Tali then that Shepard shows her he is willing to put up with all the problems involved to be with her also physically, and at least briefly let her escape the prison of her suit.

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Archonsg wrote...

Why kill her, when the *worst* thing you can do to a Quarian is to have her exiled and have her name stripped from all fleet manifests?

VINDICTIVE!

Me likey!  :devil:

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You talk to Pressly in one and you hear what he thinks. Then you read the padd and see that there was a lot more going on then just your missions.

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iNixiRir wrote...

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morning folks, what are we discussing today?


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Awesome picture did you do that yourself? If so how long did it take?

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Phil725 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Got a question for you all. I may get a lot of flak for this but I think it begs questioning. Would it have been better if the relationship between Tali an Shep stayed sort of "platonic" (apologies if im using the term incorrectly). Wouldn't it be more fulfilling than just a quick one night stand? What you think?


That's actually the reason why I'm retroactively happy that Tali wasn't an LI in ME1.  Those all came across as flings/one night stands to me.  What Tali and Shep have now is a lot deeper than that.  Whether or not they have sex (a little late for that either way,) isn't really important to the overall relationship.

That was actually my problem with the romance in ME1. Don't get me wrong, I do like Liara and Ashley, but I did not like the romance. I thought it was arbitrary and awkward.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

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5. Placing the Normady SR1 memorial. (It landed next to pressley's journal for me.)

Sorry to dredge this up from pages back, but this is exactly what I did.  While shedding a manly tear for Pressly.



I put the memorial infront of hull that said Normandy. I thought it would be better since That peice not only represented Pressly and Kaiden(or Ashley), but it also represented the ENTIRE crew.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

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5. Placing the Normady SR1 memorial. (It landed next to pressley's journal for me.)

Sorry to dredge this up from pages back, but this is exactly what I did.  While shedding a manly tear for Pressly.


Any emotion for me from that mission was ruined by how badly it was implemented.  20 minutes walking around in a boring silent area collecting tags of names of people who you never saw on the first Normandy.  They should have made you bring Tali and Garrus, and had Joker and Chakwas around for interactions as well.  They could have made it a lot more emotional.  Massively dropped the ball IMO.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

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5. Placing the Normady SR1 memorial. (It landed next to pressley's journal for me.)

Sorry to dredge this up from pages back, but this is exactly what I did.  While shedding a manly tear for Pressly.

Isn't Tali the one who initially started melting his xenophobia?

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all clans might not agree might think they could tke reapers on by themselves

But that is the very reason that it is important for Wrex to stay.  I mean, the whole point of him being on Tuchanka is that he has a plan to unite the clans ... and it's working.

That's what I think Wrex's whole purpose to the story is -- to become the leader and unite the Krogan clans, giving Shepard the ability to call on the united Krogan people for the battle against the Reapers.  He can't unite the clans if he goes traipsing off with Shepard, and then the Krogan won't be able to come together effectively to fight the enemy.

can still go off with shep do quest for him tell other clans  wrex wants to unite clans to go against reapers when go to clans they say yes but need yor help  first almost like in DAO  after all tht  he join squad problem  solved.

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Correction, Legion makes that comment in reference to the Heretics who have already been subjected to a virus from Nazara (aka. Sovereign). Legion justifies the overwrite since the alternative is outright destruction and thus the Heretics as they existed would be lost either way. Legion's position is pragmatic given the circumstances of the situation.

Given the nature of Rael's research (i.e. ways to effectively combat Geth) it remains highly questionable whether any of that research would have benign benefits for the Geth. Furthermore, given an almost complete lack of hard data on what Rael was researching any such postulations are nothing more than conjecture and idle speculation.

If the program Rael was working on and which Xen has gleaned bits and pieces of is beneficial to the Geth then let the Geth decide for themselves. Given the Geth's insistence upon making their own future and granting the same right for all sapient species, coupled with their refusal for the most part (the Codex mentions the Heretics are estimated to only account for ca. 5% of the total Geth population) of Sovereigns offer to guide them to their future, there is good reason to suspect the Geth would reject such an offer....And I suspect you did not intend to ask them politely for their accord before proceeding which would likely greatly increase the odds of the Geth turning against such a move.

The Geth also never said that they hadn't improved their programming. Perhaps if the Geth were peacefully approached, shown the potential benefits of whatever research is in question AND given free reign to examine it for themselves then perhaps they might agree to go along with it. There are alot of "if"s in the scenarios you propose and I wouldn't hold my breath on any of them given the limited evidence currently at hand.




The only real information we know about the work Rael did was that in involved a comprehension approach to a mass of networked Geth, so it would have to be something subtle not brute force.

I never said I would force it on the Geth, Xen certainly would though. But what if the data actually did hold value to the Geth, the Geth never said they improved their programming only on interconnecting more of themselves to allocate more resources to higher processes.

I'm trying to view it more along the lines that the Quarians were the ones that made the Geth and they would probably be able to understand Geth fundamental limitations than the Geth would.

The Geth have weird ways of interpretting the galaxy around them. They disagree with Sovernreign and his Heretics but once he's destroyed they send Legion to talk with Shepard about it. It's not like Shepard did anything truly ground breaking, just shot it with guns til it stopped moving and we know the Geth could have easily done that.

For as advanced as the Geth are they don't understand their own impulses.

What if returning the Heretics causes the entire collective to turn? Leaving only Legion as a true Geth, would he then take the data from Xen and impose it to avoid the conclusion of extermination for a second time?

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Daskworx wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Got a question for you all. I may get a lot of flak for this but I think it begs questioning. Would it have been better if the relationship between Tali an Shep stayed sort of "platonic" (apologies if im using the term incorrectly). Wouldn't it be more fulfilling than just a quick one night stand? What you think?


That's actually the reason why I'm retroactively happy that Tali wasn't an LI in ME1.  Those all came across as flings/one night stands to me.  What Tali and Shep have now is a lot deeper than that.  Whether or not they have sex (a little late for that either way,) isn't really important to the overall relationship.


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yeah, to me it seemed as if Tali didn't want just a one-night-stand. She acted like, because of the suicide mission, she was scared that she would die never getting to express how she felt about Shepard. Tali always loved Shepard (since ME1). The danger of the mission just forced it to a quicker progression.

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Phil725 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Soban wrote...

5. Placing the Normady SR1 memorial. (It landed next to pressley's journal for me.)

Sorry to dredge this up from pages back, but this is exactly what I did.  While shedding a manly tear for Pressly.


Any emotion for me from that mission was ruined by how badly it was implemented.  20 minutes walking around in a boring silent area collecting tags of names of people who you never saw on the first Normandy.  They should have made you bring Tali and Garrus, and had Joker and Chakwas around for interactions as well.  They could have made it a lot more emotional.  Massively dropped the ball IMO.


That I do agree.

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I hope there is an option to "deal" with Xen in ME3. That ***** deserves a hole in the head from a sniper rilfe.

Best revenge?  Beating her in a debate in the Conclave and forcing her resignation or impeachment.

(Hmmm...  Forcing the Admiralty Board's hands by convincing the Conclave to pass something the Board is compelled to veto, forcing them to resign en masse...)


Catching Xen with plans to disrupt  a planed geth/quarian peace deal and taking her out with an AR to the back of the head?

I always favor leaving an opponent 'crippled' but alive to stew in their FAILURE over killing them.

I'm a vindictive b----d, for a Paragon...  :devil:


This is why I favor life sentences without the possibility of parole.

In the end we'd have to consider how this would affect Tali and every Quarian.

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he was tank bred not much back story to him 

Well, right... which is what my problem with him is.
He has no story, and no experiences to help create a personality.  He is a blank slate -- a generic Krogan -- which is why he is boring.

The problem is that he is awesome in a fight :-/  That's why I loved Wrex so much.  He was basically the perfect character -- he had personality and funny things to say, yet also had possibly the best set of combat skills in the game.  Now I can either have a monsterously effective combat team, or I can have two characters I like.

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Shazzammer2

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vykvyper1 wrote...

Daskworx wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Got a question for you all. I may get a lot of flak for this but I think it begs questioning. Would it have been better if the relationship between Tali an Shep stayed sort of "platonic" (apologies if im using the term incorrectly). Wouldn't it be more fulfilling than just a quick one night stand? What you think?


That's actually the reason why I'm retroactively happy that Tali wasn't an LI in ME1.  Those all came across as flings/one night stands to me.  What Tali and Shep have now is a lot deeper than that.  Whether or not they have sex (a little late for that either way,) isn't really important to the overall relationship.


Totally agree Image IPB


yeah, to me it seemed as if Tali didn't want just a one-night-stand. She acted like, because of the suicide mission, she was scared that she would die never getting to express how she felt about Shepard. Tali always loved Shepard (since ME1). The danger of the mission just forced it to a quicker progression.


Hmm, I really never thought of it that way. Thanks for the replies! At
least I know Im not the only one wishing they get maried or something.

Modifié par Shazzammer2, 11 mars 2010 - 09:33 .


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Xandurpein wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Got a question for you all. I may get a lot of flak for this but I think it begs questioning. Would it have been better if the relationship between Tali an Shep stayed sort of "platonic" (apologies if im using the term incorrectly). Wouldn't it be more fulfilling than just a quick one night stand? What you think?


That's actually the reason why I'm retroactively happy that Tali wasn't an LI in ME1.  Those all came across as flings/one night stands to me.  What Tali and Shep have now is a lot deeper than that.  Whether or not they have sex (a little late for that either way,) isn't really important to the overall relationship.


I think there are  reasons why sex in a way is the focus of Tali's romance in ME2. It's a lot more than just sex involved really. Tali is at first  more or less resigned to never have a chance of ever getting her hearts desire because she is trapped in her suit. It is so important to Tali then that Shepard shows her he is willing to put up with all the problems involved to be with her also physically, and at least briefly let her escape the prison of her suit.


I definitely agree that sex is a lot bigger deal in that relationship than any of the others.  That said, if Tali didn't find a way before the ending of ME2, I don't feel like there relationship would be any different.  They would still care about each other just as much.

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Azint wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Soban wrote...

5. Placing the Normady SR1 memorial. (It landed next to pressley's journal for me.)

Sorry to dredge this up from pages back, but this is exactly what I did.  While shedding a manly tear for Pressly.

Isn't Tali the one who initially started melting his xenophobia?


Yea, and all his logs you could read were about Tali and her effect on his outlook.

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Good, a Tali v. Liara throwdown will be good only to make sure that Liara gets put in her place. Nothing against her but I've got Tali's back.

I think the possible Tali/Liara confrontation would be a contest of who can cry the hardest.  I would feel very bad when I told Liara that I was enternally grateful to her but that she's going to need to take a hike.

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Tali should go talk with those Terra Firma guys. In like, a day, their xenophobia will be completely gone. 

They may even rename themselves to........Tali Firma. B)

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Shazzammer2 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Soban wrote...

5. Placing the Normady SR1 memorial. (It landed next to pressley's journal for me.)

Sorry to dredge this up from pages back, but this is exactly what I did.  While shedding a manly tear for Pressly.



I put the memorial infront of hull that said Normandy. I thought it would be better since That peice not only represented Pressly and Kaiden(or Ashley), but it also represented the ENTIRE crew.


I put mine by presleys journal as well. Ithought it really exemplified what the SR1 stood for (well paragon SR1 at least) and also a tribute to a fallen comrade. I thought about putting it near ashleys hangout, but when i read that journal and saw how his attitude had progressed I knew that was where it should go.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

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Good, a Tali v. Liara throwdown will be good only to make sure that Liara gets put in her place. Nothing against her but I've got Tali's back.

I think the possible Tali/Liara confrontation would be a contest of who can cry the hardest.  I would feel very bad when I told Liara that I was enternally grateful to her but that she's going to need to take a hike.

I rather want Tali to win since Liara changed so much. She somewhat of thug now.

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I've returned from univ. NOW I saw the awesome picture posted around 2508.

Very nice.

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little off topic little hint they might come out with expansion Grunt had little backstory just like tht little dwarf from DAO

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Hey Talimancers! Life treatin ya good?

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danteshepard wrote...

Hey Talimancers! Life treatin ya good?

its is treatin me good