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NonHuman1136

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camoboy_19 wrote...

Ok getting back to Quarians... What kind of enviroment do you think they are looking for on a world? Ive been mining around and I've found habitable worlds. Are they looking for a specific ecosystem? And when they do find it, how will they adapt themselves to not need the suits?


I'm playin thru ME1 again and Tali said that in order for Quarians to no longer require their suits it would take years of bio-engineering, and that's even if they return to their homeworld.  She also said that their homeworld had no insects and that the viruses were not as deadly as with other worlds.  Their immune systems ADAPT to viruses etc.  She said that because of the sterile flotillas their bodies lost this ability.

woot page 252

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camoboy_19 wrote...

Ok getting back to Quarians... What kind of enviroment do you think they are looking for on a world? Ive been mining around and I've found habitable worlds. Are they looking for a specific ecosystem? And when they do find it, how will they adapt themselves to not need the suits?


At some point they probably weren't too choosy.  There's that one planet in ME2 that's described as having been squatted by the quarians before the Council kicked them off (and gave it to the elcor?).  That planet was truly crappy, as I recall:  high gravity, temperature way out of comfortable human norms.  So at least in the past they were willing to try to make due.

However, they seem to have stopped trying this.  The galaxy is huge, they've had centuries, but they don't seem to have tried again, that we know of.

It's like they're locked into a "homeworld or nothing" stance now.

I suspect that acclimating to a new planet would require the catch-all "gene therapy" that gets thrown around a few times in the game.  Must be serious business, though, if you take Tali's "60 years vs. 600 years" comment at face value.

Personally, I'd take the long view and get started on that colony today, but I'm not in charge of the Flotilla.

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camoboy_19 wrote...

Driving Ghost wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Ok getting back to Quarians... What kind of enviroment do you think they are looking for on a world? Ive been mining around and I've found habitable worlds. Are they looking for a specific ecosystem? And when they do find it, how will they adapt themselves to not need the suits?


They're looking for their homeworld.

I know it sounds cheap, but according to Tali, it will suit their system the best.

Hm. Pardon me for my ignorance, but what is unique about their planet? other than it being their original homeworld?


I do not remember correctly, so sorry if i'm wrong.

But it was something about their planet not having a certain element, so positive spores would be put into quarians by insects?
I'll have to look into this...

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Lareit wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Ok getting back to Quarians... What kind of enviroment do you think they are looking for on a world? Ive been mining around and I've found habitable worlds. Are they looking for a specific ecosystem? And when they do find it, how will they adapt themselves to not need the suits?


Considering they were willing to try to make it work on a small planet, with heavy gravity, that only had a narrow strip around the equator that was truly habitable....I'd say they're not terribly picky.


Genetic alteration is a fairly common procedure in the ME universe. Even the alliance has it's soldiers undergo it as a mandatory treatment to maximize potential. The quarians would begin to genetic adapt their bodies to not react so negatively to the foreign elements of their world.

Hm, that's quite a bit of alteration, due to a 300-year-old process of their immune system. It would probably take a lot of resources, resources the Quarians might not have

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The Quarians need their homeworld due to the fact that it's environment is the most hospitable to them. Among the reasons are the viruses there that are partially beneficial to them. There are, for example, plenty of planets in ME that cause injury or death to humans without their environment suit. This basically the same thing for the Quarians, many planets would not suit them, and their homeworld is like "Earth."

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Driving Ghost wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Driving Ghost wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Ok getting back to Quarians... What kind of enviroment do you think they are looking for on a world? Ive been mining around and I've found habitable worlds. Are they looking for a specific ecosystem? And when they do find it, how will they adapt themselves to not need the suits?


They're looking for their homeworld.

I know it sounds cheap, but according to Tali, it will suit their system the best.

Hm. Pardon me for my ignorance, but what is unique about their planet? other than it being their original homeworld?


I do not remember correctly, so sorry if i'm wrong.

But it was something about their planet not having a certain element, so positive spores would be put into quarians by insects?
I'll have to look into this...


Rannoch had no insects.  Quarians (and the rest of the indigenous animals, probably) were semi-symbiotic with the planet life in that they spread all the pollen.  Thus their immune system didn't fight foreign material so vigorously.

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camoboy_19 wrote...


 Hm, that's quite a bit of alteration, due to a 300-year-old process of their immune system. It would probably take a lot of resources, resources the Quarians might not have


Resources are, in my opinion, the biggest thing holding the quarians back from quickly adapting their bodies to a new enviroment.

They'd have to adapt their entire race, 17 million people, which would require alot of time and effort. They'd still need a fleet to keep raiders away, which would divert a great deal of manpower as well. It's just a very messy situation. Their hope, about going back to their homeworld, is their bodies wouldn't react so strongly to the elements there and they'd be able to naturally readapt to normal life.

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NonHuman1136 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Ok getting back to Quarians... What kind of enviroment do you think they are looking for on a world? Ive been mining around and I've found habitable worlds. Are they looking for a specific ecosystem? And when they do find it, how will they adapt themselves to not need the suits?


I'm playin thru ME1 again and Tali said that in order for Quarians to no longer require their suits it would take years of bio-engineering, and that's even if they return to their homeworld.  She also said that their homeworld had no insects and that the viruses were not as deadly as with other worlds.  Their immune systems ADAPT to viruses etc.  She said that because of the sterile flotillas their bodies lost this ability.

woot page 252

Hm. No insects? It sounds a little odd, And that would probably limit how much pollination actually happened. But without insects the illnesses would definately be weaker. You'd think they'd stop at some planets temporarily to test it's habituality

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Driving Ghost wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Driving Ghost wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Ok getting back to Quarians... What kind of enviroment do you think they are looking for on a world? Ive been mining around and I've found habitable worlds. Are they looking for a specific ecosystem? And when they do find it, how will they adapt themselves to not need the suits?


They're looking for their homeworld.

I know it sounds cheap, but according to Tali, it will suit their system the best.

Hm. Pardon me for my ignorance, but what is unique about their planet? other than it being their original homeworld?


I do not remember correctly, so sorry if i'm wrong.

But it was something about their planet not having a certain element, so positive spores would be put into quarians by insects?
I'll have to look into this...


Rannoch had no insects.  Quarians (and the rest of the indigenous animals, probably) were semi-symbiotic with the planet life in that they spread all the pollen.  Thus their immune system didn't fight foreign material so vigorously.

So...they're like Na'vi from Avatar? lol

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Driving Ghost wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Driving Ghost wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Ok getting back to Quarians... What kind of enviroment do you think they are looking for on a world? Ive been mining around and I've found habitable worlds. Are they looking for a specific ecosystem? And when they do find it, how will they adapt themselves to not need the suits?


They're looking for their homeworld.

I know it sounds cheap, but according to Tali, it will suit their system the best.

Hm. Pardon me for my ignorance, but what is unique about their planet? other than it being their original homeworld?


I do not remember correctly, so sorry if i'm wrong.

But it was something about their planet not having a certain element, so positive spores would be put into quarians by insects?
I'll have to look into this...


Rannoch had no insects.  Quarians (and the rest of the indigenous animals, probably) were semi-symbiotic with the planet life in that they spread all the pollen.  Thus their immune system didn't fight foreign material so vigorously.


Ah k. Thanks for clearing that up. Image IPB

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camoboy_19 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Rannoch had no insects.  Quarians (and the rest of the indigenous animals, probably) were semi-symbiotic with the planet life in that they spread all the pollen.  Thus their immune system didn't fight foreign material so vigorously.

So...they're like Na'vi from Avatar? lol


Oh, oh god.  Love is over.

Frigging tree-huggers.

Edit:  Colonel Quaritch for LI in ME3.

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have anybody taken tali into the citadel where the volus is accusing the quarian of stealing his chip? I think it was pretty awesome since tali got all defensive and i hated that racist volus.

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HunterX6 wrote...

have anybody taken tali into the citadel where the volus is accusing the quarian of stealing his chip? I think it was pretty awesome since tali got all defensive and i hated that racist volus.

I'm doing that on second playthrough

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HunterX6 wrote...

have anybody taken tali into the citadel where the volus is accusing the quarian of stealing his chip? I think it was pretty awesome since tali got all defensive and i hated that racist volus.


That had probably the most aggressive paragon interrupt ever.  My favorite mini-quest.

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Axnollouse wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

DarkwanderStorm wrote...

Axnollouse wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

damage incorp96 wrote...

natetodamax wrote...

If Tali isn't in Mass Effect 3, shame on Bioware.


Watching a program on the Mayans and there is a new theory, Mass Effect 3 is going to be released 12/20/2012 and Tali isn't going to be in it. Then on 12/21/2012 worldwide Talimancer rage is so powerful it actually conjuers a reaper that destroys first EA then the entire world. Attn EA, The Mayans foretold of Tali'Zorah and her awesome power. You are the only ones that can avert this disaster and prove the Mayans wrong.

Relax, only a joke, we all know Tali will be in me3.

If that happened though, all the loyal Talimancers would be spared from the destruction


And lo all ye talimancers were shielded from the wrath of the end of days staring Arnold Schwarzenegger


and i continue to laugh :lol:

I'd go see that movie. Tali would have to be in it though


Tali and Arnold vs The Damned? SOLD!

TO PHOTOSHOP!

You guys are crazy lol

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camoboy_19 wrote...
] ...You'd think they'd stop at some planets temporarily to test it's habituality


That just gave me a thought.  Does it say anywhere in the codex or in any convo in either game that the Citadel no longer allows the Quarians to attempt to settle anywhere within Citadel space due to their involvement with the geth, etc.??  I know it says they kicked them off one planet and gave it to the elcor (i saw that a page or so ago).

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Alexisonf1re wrote...

Axnollouse wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

DarkwanderStorm wrote...

Axnollouse wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

damage incorp96 wrote...

natetodamax wrote...

If Tali isn't in Mass Effect 3, shame on Bioware.


Watching a program on the Mayans and there is a new theory, Mass Effect 3 is going to be released 12/20/2012 and Tali isn't going to be in it. Then on 12/21/2012 worldwide Talimancer rage is so powerful it actually conjuers a reaper that destroys first EA then the entire world. Attn EA, The Mayans foretold of Tali'Zorah and her awesome power. You are the only ones that can avert this disaster and prove the Mayans wrong.

Relax, only a joke, we all know Tali will be in me3.

If that happened though, all the loyal Talimancers would be spared from the destruction


And lo all ye talimancers were shielded from the wrath of the end of days staring Arnold Schwarzenegger


and i continue to laugh :lol:

I'd go see that movie. Tali would have to be in it though


Tali and Arnold vs The Damned? SOLD!

TO PHOTOSHOP!

You guys are crazy lol

Damn straight. Arnold would stand behind Tali as she obliterated everything in their path. Predator would be shortened by an hour because of Tali

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Another part of the sequel :

Jack glared at everybody. Challenging anybody who would dare to laugh, or even dare to crack a smile. But so far so good, it doesn't seem that luck is on her side either.

Suddenly she felt a tug on her arm.

Looking down only to see Rael. He has two microphones in his hands and held up one to her. Sighing deeply and cursing the idiot,-cough- joker-cough-, who decided to make a karaoke party, Jack accepted the microphone, she didn't want to upset the adorable young half quarian. Gripping the microphone tightly in her right hand, Jack felt a small hand slid into her left.

Rael grinned at her and spoke softly, "C-can I s-sing with aunty jack too?"

The hell?...NO...Must...resist...

How the hell could Jack not agree with that??

" 'sigh'...Yeah you can..."

Rael was looking into the list of songs until the evil demon of the cursed hell, worst enemy of jack said with a gentle (false probably) voice : "Rael, How about this song?"

"This one?" asked the young boy?

"Yes this one." The demon pointed out a song.

Jack peered from the top of Rael's little head and stiffen. Of all the ****ing accursed songs…..No way in hell!!

Jack whirled around towards the former Cerberus agent. Killer intent brimming Jack and everybody present could feel the spiking animosity except for Rael.

The cheerleader must die…The cheerleader must die…The cheerleader must die… Jack chanted in her mind. Murderous look glaring obscenely at Miranda Lawson.

Until...

Everyone was shocked, they thought that Jack would kill Miranda but instead she was grinning like mad. Then she turned down to be face to face with young Rael Shepard and asked.

"Hey Rael, how about aunty Miranda sing with us?"

Miranda smirk suddenly disappear and she thought.

"What...?! There is no way that-"

[/i]Then she felt a small tug on her clothes and saw a gentle and innocent looking Rael grinning at her.

"Y-you sing too aunty M-Miranda...Please?"

Before she could answer she could still feel Jack's smirk that said :

"If I am going to hell then I will bring you with me."[/i]

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NonHuman1136 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...
] ...You'd think they'd stop at some planets temporarily to test it's habituality


That just gave me a thought.  Does it say anywhere in the codex or in any convo in either game that the Citadel no longer allows the Quarians to attempt to settle anywhere within Citadel space due to their involvement with the geth, etc.??  I know it says they kicked them off one planet and gave it to the elcor (i saw that a page or so ago).

To put it in the context of one angry Turian (with minimal editing):
You Council Races are all Racist!

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NonHuman1136 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...
] ...You'd think they'd stop at some planets temporarily to test it's habituality


That just gave me a thought.  Does it say anywhere in the codex or in any convo in either game that the Citadel no longer allows the Quarians to attempt to settle anywhere within Citadel space due to their involvement with the geth, etc.??  I know it says they kicked them off one planet and gave it to the elcor (i saw that a page or so ago).


It's probably implied that the Council reserves all Garden worlds in it's protected space for Council races. Settling outside the Council space means very vulnerable to various pirate attacks, with a diminished fleet and no allies the quarians would be a juicy target.

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NonHuman1136 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...
] ...You'd think they'd stop at some planets temporarily to test it's habituality


That just gave me a thought.  Does it say anywhere in the codex or in any convo in either game that the Citadel no longer allows the Quarians to attempt to settle anywhere within Citadel space due to their involvement with the geth, etc.??  I know it says they kicked them off one planet and gave it to the elcor (i saw that a page or so ago).


The council stripped them of their embassy for creating and enslaving the geth.  They can still settle on the Citadel, though I don't think they do in any large numbers.

Speaking of which:  so the quarians lose their homeworld and are nearly wiped out by the geth, and then the council tells them to take a hike?  Sounds like the council hasn't changed much in 300 years.  "Ah yes, the 'quarian genocide' an overreaction by the synthetics casting off their shackles.  We have dismissed these claims."

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

NonHuman1136 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...
] ...You'd think they'd stop at some planets temporarily to test it's habituality


That just gave me a thought.  Does it say anywhere in the codex or in any convo in either game that the Citadel no longer allows the Quarians to attempt to settle anywhere within Citadel space due to their involvement with the geth, etc.??  I know it says they kicked them off one planet and gave it to the elcor (i saw that a page or so ago).


The council stripped them of their embassy for creating and enslaving the geth.  They can still settle on the Citadel, though I don't think they do in any large numbers.

Speaking of which:  so the quarians lose their homeworld and are nearly wiped out by the geth, and then the council takes them to take a hike?  Sounds like the council hasn't changed much in 300 years.

Like I said, the Council is racist :P
 "Show Love for the Quarians in ME3"
Edit: Plus, I don't see how you enslave a machine. That'd be stripping humans of embassy for making mechanical Sham-wows

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

NonHuman1136 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...
] ...You'd think they'd stop at some planets temporarily to test it's habituality


That just gave me a thought.  Does it say anywhere in the codex or in any convo in either game that the Citadel no longer allows the Quarians to attempt to settle anywhere within Citadel space due to their involvement with the geth, etc.??  I know it says they kicked them off one planet and gave it to the elcor (i saw that a page or so ago).


The council stripped them of their embassy for creating and enslaving the geth.  They can still settle on the Citadel, though I don't think they do in any large numbers.

Speaking of which:  so the quarians lose their homeworld and are nearly wiped out by the geth, and then the council takes them to take a hike?  Sounds like the council hasn't changed much in 300 years.


Yeah, that plus their reaction to the quarians trying to resettle is why my shepard plans, if it's an option, to restructure the government in 3. Even if that means renegade style.

The Council is inept.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...
Speaking of which:  so the quarians lose their homeworld and are nearly wiped out by the geth, and then the council takes them to take a hike?  Sounds like the council hasn't changed much in 300 years.


BA-ZING!  ^ Possible line for Shepard to the Council?

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NonHuman1136 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
Speaking of which:  so the quarians lose their homeworld and are nearly wiped out by the geth, and then the council takes them to take a hike?  Sounds like the council hasn't changed much in 300 years.


BA-ZING!  ^ Possible line for Shepard to the Council?

All I know is that the council needs to take a tip from Garrus and take the pole out of thier arses