137512 réponses à ce sujet

[alickar]

danteshepard wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

C'mon guys... stop fighting. Real men hug it out

 

No! Somebody not only stated her intention to abandontalif or liara, but threatened to do tali harm! Honor dictaced she must be killed. any blood relation to her must also be killed so thier genes cannot be passed on. we must them poison the corpse, force feed the poison meat to collectors and just for the hell of it kill her best friend!

agrees with post above *takes out shotgun*

[Pauravi]

Archonsg wrote...

Uhh no no. I meant after ME2, if Bioware wants us to still care for our previous LIs, they need to do some really serious writing. You can't just make Both Ash and Kaiden "moronic", accusing you of not only treason but totally ignoring evidence that is right in front of them and making Liarra obsessed to the point of being fanatical in her bid to rid the SB and expect us to believe that they both just did a 180° turn in emotional make up and suddenly want to cuddle up to Shepard again. Well maybe Kaiden...but he's male...hormones and all that.

I don't think they screwed up, they were trying to create a troubled romance, and frankly I think they did a good job.  I think the issue is more than they didn't make people MORE attached to them in ME1 so that they would be more compelled to try and stick it out.  Some more in-depth conversation options may have helped, but I'm fairly certain that the idea was to make people feel hurt, or betrayed.

Actually in Liara's case I am more concerned than betrayed; it is obvious that she went through a lot and is not dealing with it well.  If she were the same old Liara then the romance is flat -- it has no twist at all, no conflict to make the romance a story unto itself.  Stories require conflict and resolution, and if she weren't obsessing over the SB then she wouldn't be in a place where we have to help her emotionally rather than just something we can solve by doing a mission with guns blazing.  IMO, people who look at Liara and think, "But what about MY feelings, huh?  Why aren't you more loyal to me??" are acting rather selfishly.  If your best friend or lover became obsessed over something that could get them killed you wouldn't take that as a personal affront, you'd want to try and help them resolve their issue.

[Angelraid]

well thanks to this thread it has taken me nearly 4 hours to finish the thane recruitment mission

[Himmelstor]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

I wouldn't mind seeing that. All for a tag

Sure, but Tali first.

Unacceptable goals. Too risky. Have to kill you...

My support has its limits 

Oh no you too?

Kidnap Liara T'Soni. Wait for Somebody1003 to attempt rescue. Kill. Release asari. Simple.

If doesn't show up, Morinth can have Liara...

[Archonsg]

FenixPendragon wrote...

Ash's message to you later I think was a good start (it was very apologetic) Kaiden's message was not so for my Fem Shep.

Yes there is that.
Kaiden's still an ass, but Ash's message showed that she still cared but still is as stubborn as a mule when it comes to your role in Cerberus.
Liarra's "shoe in plot" if I am to take a stab at it will be tied to you finding more about the reapers in ME3. Heck wouldn't it be funny if the SB are really agents for the reapers and that's how they get Liarra and you back together as a team. It would be logical then that she re-discovers her love for you and thus friction between current LI and Liarra.

Modifié par Archonsg, 12 mars 2010 - 04:50 .

[Jake71887]

alickar wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

C'mon guys... stop fighting. Real men hug it out

 

No! Somebody not only stated her intention to abandontalif or liara, but threatened to do tali harm! Honor dictaced she must be killed. any blood relation to her must also be killed so thier genes cannot be passed on. we must them poison the corpse, force feed the poison meat to collectors and just for the hell of it kill her best friend!

agrees with post above *takes out shotgun*

[sergio71785]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Just curious, what is the earliest anyone has received Tali as a squad mate?

What do you mean? In ME2?

Right after Freedom's Progress. 

[Himmelstor]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Just curious, what is the earliest anyone has received Tali as a squad mate?

Immediately following Horizon.

[danteshepard]

Somebody1003 wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

C'mon guys... stop fighting. Real men hug it out

 

No! Somebody not only stated her intention to abandon tali for liara, but threatened to do tali harm! Honor dictaced she must be killed. any blood relation to her must also be killed so thier genes cannot be passed on. we must them poison the corpse, force feed the poison meat to collectors and just for the hell of it kill her best friend!

I did not say I wanted to kill her, people threatened Liara first!

doesn't matter you threaten harm to Tali'Zorah. this is treason a capital offense!

[camoboy_19]

Somebody1003 wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

C'mon guys... stop fighting. Real men hug it out

 

No! Somebody not only stated her intention to abandontalif or liara, but threatened to do tali harm! Honor dictaced she must be killed. any blood relation to her must also be killed so thier genes cannot be passed on. we must them poison the corpse, force feed the poison meat to collectors and just for the hell of it kill her best friend!

I did not say I wanted to kill her, people threatened Liara first!

I remember no such thing. You just abandoned Tali alone on a sun-beaten planet so you could chat with Liara

[camoboy_19]

sergio71785 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Just curious, what is the earliest anyone has received Tali as a squad mate?

What do you mean? In ME2?

Right after Freedom's Progress. 

WOAH how?

[Himmelstor]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...
Sure, but Tali first.

Unacceptable goals. Too risky. Have to kill you...

My support has its limits 

Oh no you too?

Kidnap Liara T'Soni. Wait for Somebody1003 to attempt rescue. Kill. Release asari. Simple.

If doesn't show up, Morinth can have Liara...

oh god doc you really are ruthless!:crying:

...you knew that...

[sergio71785]

camoboy_19 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Just curious, what is the earliest anyone has received Tali as a squad mate?

What do you mean? In ME2?

Right after Freedom's Progress. 

WOAH how?

You can modify the PC version to unlock her early. She even has dialog for all the initial missions too. 

[camoboy_19]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Just curious, what is the earliest anyone has received Tali as a squad mate?

What do you mean? In ME2?

Right after Freedom's Progress. 

WOAH how?

Modifications on the PC.

oh I see

[SirEmilCrane]

starwarschewy wrote...

kal'reegar said it best: Yes Ma'am!

[alickar]

Pauravi wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

Uhh no no. I meant after ME2, if Bioware wants us to still care for our previous LIs, they need to do some really serious writing. You can't just make Both Ash and Kaiden "moronic", accusing you of not only treason but totally ignoring evidence that is right in front of them and making Liarra obsessed to the point of being fanatical in her bid to rid the SB and expect us to believe that they both just did a 180° turn in emotional make up and suddenly want to cuddle up to Shepard again. Well maybe Kaiden...but he's male...hormones and all that.

I don't think they screwed up, they were trying to create a troubled romance, and frankly I think they did a good job.  I think the issue is more than they didn't make people MORE attached to them in ME1 so that they would be more compelled to try and stick it out.  Some more in-depth conversation options may have helped, but I'm fairly certain that the idea was to make people feel hurt, or betrayed.

Actually in Liara's case I am more concerned than betrayed; it is obvious that she went through a lot and is not dealing with it well.  If she were the same old Liara then the romance is flat -- it has no twist at all, no conflict to make the romance a story unto itself.  Stories require conflict and resolution, and if she weren't obsessing over the SB then she wouldn't be in a place where we have to help her emotionally rather than just something we can solve by doing a mission with guns blazing.  IMO, people who look at Liara and think, "But what about MY feelings, huh?  Why aren't you more loyal to me??" are acting rather selfishly.  If your best friend or lover became obsessed over something that could get them killed you wouldn't take that as a personal affront, you'd want to try and help them resolve their issue.

no one done helping he she may luv u but  if a thing pops up such as killing someone  who killed her friend wud not love u would stay focused on mission trying to kill person rather thn showing a *little luv* toords u

[Pauravi]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

I cried, this is so beautiful.

Just wait till the next frame where the bear is eating the wolf, hehe.

[danteshepard]

Somebody1003 wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

I did not say I wanted to kill her, people threatened Liara first!

doesn't matter you threaten harm to Tali'Zorah. this is treason a capital offense!

Threatening Liara supersedes threats to Tali!

Keep digging that grave sister. We'll throw you in it soon enough.