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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Collider wrote...

Dreamwalker89 wrote...



just... wow... very nice

I really like it. The detail is amazing, it looks like professional CG that you would see from the companies Bioware hires to produce the CG trailers. She's quite cute as well, cute as a button really. I'd like her to be a bit more alien but I'm pretty stoked on this appearance.

I fully support this idea.  They even got her eyes right, which I'm not sure anyone else does.

Her eyes look nice, but there is that "glowing" effect for her eyes through the mask. Doesn't seem to be represented here. Anyways, as I said, I'd like her to look a bit more alien. Different eyes would be part of that.

On a similar note, I really love those cybernetics on her forehead. Seems really appropriate as Quarians get them for their pilgrimage.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Azint wrote...
He's pretty sharp in a fight but he comes off as socially inept at times. Then again he did have a sparring match with that scout.

Garrus can be da man sometimes (reach/flexibility, like you mentioned) but he's got a lot on his mind without thinking about other people's business.

So you think he wouldn't really give a damn about Tali being with Shepard? Hmm...actually, that seems to be the case. He may say something about being careful but that might be the extent of it. That is, if squad mates even comment on romances in ME3 to begin with. That would be nice. Seems quite a bit of people want something like that judging from this poll:
social.bioware.com/892908/polls/1975/

[Scy Lancer]

Hey folks. What's the topics of the eve?

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Scy Lancer wrote...

Hey folks. What's the topics of the eve?

Tali's face and how Garrus would if at all react to Tali being in a relationship with Shepard. Additonal stuff as well I'm sure.

[RogueWriter3201]

Dreamwalker89 wrote...



just... wow... very nice

I caught this earlier, and thought it was something Photoshoped, so I didn't really pay it much heed.
Now that I've had a chance to look at it again, this 'is' really sharp work. I won't agree with some that
she does not look Alien enough, since I'm tired of pointing people to the ME Wiki page that highlights
the points several times that Quarian DO look very human in appearence, minus ears as we know
them. So...anyway! Amazing CG pic. It looks like Blur might do (the company who did Bioware's ME2
and TOR trailers) And yes, she does look very Cute. Although...I always pictured her with Black hair.
I don't know, maybe it's the Romani accent.

[Felipe 058]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Collider wrote...

Dreamwalker89 wrote...



just... wow... very nice

I really like it. The detail is amazing, it looks like professional CG that you would see from the companies Bioware hires to produce the CG trailers. She's quite cute as well, cute as a button really. I'd like her to be a bit more alien but I'm pretty stoked on this appearance.

I fully support this idea.  They even got the shape of her eyes right, which I'm not sure anyone else does.

Well, I'm pretty sure her eyes are a bit lighter than that, but the visor may just filter them differently since eyes a highly reflective. Also, I think we're all fairly certain that quarians have little (which this does well) to no hair, bordering on the no hair, though. Other than that, this is a spectacular pic, and I would love if Tali turned out like that. And I agree, the level of detail in this, whether it's CG or done by hand, is absolutely incredible. This is by far my most favorite non-ingame Tali image.

Also, Pauravi, is this what you're loking for?

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glenboy24 wrote...

Dreamwalker89 wrote...



just... wow... very nice

I caught this earlier, and thought it was something Photoshoped, so I didn't really pay it much heed.
Now that I've had a chance to look at it again, this 'is' really sharp work. I won't agree with some that
she does not look Alien enough, since I'm tired of pointing people to the ME Wiki page that highlights
the points several times that Quarian DO look very human in appearence, minus ears as we know
them. So...anyway! Amazing CG pic. It looks like Blur might do (the company who did Bioware's ME2
and TOR trailers) And yes, she does look very Cute. Although...I always pictured her with Black hair.
I don't know, maybe it's the Romani accent.

2 eyes lips and a nose doesn't mean that they need to look like humans with a different skin color. I'd still like for her to look more alien. Doesn't mean it'll make her unattractive, I'd just like her to be more unique.

[Pauravi]

Collider wrote...

Her eyes look nice, but there is that "glowing" effect for her eyes through the mask. Doesn't seem to be represented here.

Yeah... there was a long debate about that <_<
Someone did a glowing version.  Frankly I don't think it makes too much sense from a biological functional perspective for her irises or eyes to actually glow.  It would impair vision.  I think they made them glow for the more practical purpose of giving her a more expressive face.  It could be written off as her having a tapetum lucidum, like a cat.

[RogueWriter3201]

Felipe 058 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Collider wrote...

Dreamwalker89 wrote...



just... wow... very nice

I really like it. The detail is amazing, it looks like professional CG that you would see from the companies Bioware hires to produce the CG trailers. She's quite cute as well, cute as a button really. I'd like her to be a bit more alien but I'm pretty stoked on this appearance.

I fully support this idea.  They even got the shape of her eyes right, which I'm not sure anyone else does.

Well, I'm pretty sure her eyes are a bit lighter than that, but the visor may just filter them differently since eyes a highly reflective. Also, I think we're all fairly certain that quarians have little (which this does well) to no hair, bordering on the no hair, though. Other than that, this is a spectacular pic, and I would love if Tali turned out like that. And I agree, the level of detail in this, whether it's CG or done by hand, is absolutely incredible. This is by far my most favorite non-ingame Tali image.

Also, Pauravi, is this what you're loking for?

Acutally, there is fairly solid evidence that Quarians have some fairly normal hair. If one takes into account thier ancestry, which is similar to Humans, it's likeky they will have hair in many if not all of the place we do. Just the fact that they have eyebrows is a clue.

[Scy Lancer]

I like the new pic. Really like the eyes.

As for how Garrus would react...

Shepard: Garrus have time to talk?

Garrus: I'm kinda busy right now. Maybe later.

Shepard: No it's kinda important.

Garrus: Like how important?

Shepard: Like really f**kn important.

Garrus: What is it? Defeating a Reaper? Destroying another race that threatens humanity?

Shepard:...Tali and I are... well in a relationship now.

Garrus:.... What the hell is it with you and suicide missions?

[Felipe 058]

glenboy24 wrote...

Dreamwalker89 wrote...

*snip(e)*

just... wow... very nice

I caught this earlier, and thought it was something Photoshoped, so I didn't really pay it much heed.
Now that I've had a chance to look at it again, this 'is' really sharp work. I won't agree with some that
she does not look Alien enough, since I'm tired of pointing people to the ME Wiki page that highlights
the points several times that Quarian DO look very human in appearence, minus ears as we know
them. So...anyway! Amazing CG pic. It looks like Blur might do (the company who did Bioware's ME2
and TOR trailers) And yes, she does look very Cute. Although...I always pictured her with Black hair.
I don't know, maybe it's the Romani accent.

YES, finally someone who realizes that humans and quarians will look very similar! The black hair, however... I don't know. I mean, we don't even definitively know if quarians have hair under those "lovely buckets," as Donnelly put it. But if she does have hair, I certainly am in favor of it being black 

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glenboy24 wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Collider wrote...

Dreamwalker89 wrote...



just... wow... very nice

I really like it. The detail is amazing, it looks like professional CG that you would see from the companies Bioware hires to produce the CG trailers. She's quite cute as well, cute as a button really. I'd like her to be a bit more alien but I'm pretty stoked on this appearance.

I fully support this idea.  They even got the shape of her eyes right, which I'm not sure anyone else does.

Well, I'm pretty sure her eyes are a bit lighter than that, but the visor may just filter them differently since eyes a highly reflective. Also, I think we're all fairly certain that quarians have little (which this does well) to no hair, bordering on the no hair, though. Other than that, this is a spectacular pic, and I would love if Tali turned out like that. And I agree, the level of detail in this, whether it's CG or done by hand, is absolutely incredible. This is by far my most favorite non-ingame Tali image.

Also, Pauravi, is this what you're loking for?

Acutally, there is fairly solid evidence that Quarians have some fairly normal hair. If one takes into account thier ancestry, which is similar to Humans, it's likeky they will have hair in many if not all of the place we do. Just the fact that they have eyebrows is a clue.

How do you know that they have eyebrows? I don't believe that's solid evidence that they have hair. Quarians are humanoids but they evolved on a planet very different from Earth. The humanoid shape in general is quite good for manipulation and energy use, although not perfect. That doesn't require evolving from ape-like creatures with fur or hair.

[Pauravi]

Collider wrote...

2 eyes lips and a nose doesn't mean that they need to look like humans with a different skin color. I'd still like for her to look more alien. Doesn't mean it'll make her unattractive, I'd just like her to be more unique.

I agree.  Earlier I found an intriguing picture, and I managed to dig it up:
There is a lot about the picture that is interesting, even if you don't like it entirely.  Many of the more interesting details are actually compatible with the face we can see in the CGI picture that people are fawning over.

There are a few things wrong / inaccurate about this... for instance they lack the curved-back shin bones. Besides that, I think that the build of the body is too heavy for a female... the arms and neck especially are a bit thick; Tali is a pretty slight girl.  The nose is too wide/chunky for the profile that they give through the helmet, and the face overall is clearly not as feminine as what little we have been shown through the helmet.

However, there is one thing in particular I LOVE about this picture, and that is the way they did the neck and head.  The neck looks natural, and attractive, and mimics the profile of the Geth with the smooth line coming from their back, up their neck, and all the way over their head.   If you ignore the details the artist added, like skin markings and the little holes on the inside of the eyes, it also completely retains the human shape of the face while giving a physical basis for the somewhat elongated heads that Quarians appear to have.  They even have some aesthetically pleasing qualities that humans don't have, like that lovely swoop that her neck muscles make as they come down towards her collar-bone area.  The ears are also nicely handled.

Obviously Bioware already knows what Quarians look like, and it probably isn't like this.  But IMO it is an  interpretation that has a lot of merit and makes sense in a lot of ways.

Modifié par Pauravi, 12 mars 2010 - 09:26 .

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Pauravi wrote...

Collider wrote...

Her eyes look nice, but there is that "glowing" effect for her eyes through the mask. Doesn't seem to be represented here.

Yeah... there was a long debate about that <_<
Someone did a glowing version.  Frankly I don't think it makes too much sense from a biological functional perspective for her irises or eyes to actually glow.  It would impair vision.  I think they made them glow for the more practical purpose of giving her a more expressive face.  It could be written off as her having a tapetum lucidum, like a cat.

That is a good point, for expression. Although it could have had a duller "glow" like her nose. There's little expression you can gather from her blinking though, most of her feelings are expressed through body language or as she said through words.

[Felipe 058]

glenboy24 wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Collider wrote...

Dreamwalker89 wrote...



just... wow... very nice

I really like it. The detail is amazing, it looks like professional CG that you would see from the companies Bioware hires to produce the CG trailers. She's quite cute as well, cute as a button really. I'd like her to be a bit more alien but I'm pretty stoked on this appearance.

I fully support this idea.  They even got the shape of her eyes right, which I'm not sure anyone else does.

Well, I'm pretty sure her eyes are a bit lighter than that, but the visor may just filter them differently since eyes a highly reflective. Also, I think we're all fairly certain that quarians have little (which this does well) to no hair, bordering on the no hair, though. Other than that, this is a spectacular pic, and I would love if Tali turned out like that. And I agree, the level of detail in this, whether it's CG or done by hand, is absolutely incredible. This is by far my most favorite non-ingame Tali image.

Also, Pauravi, is this what you're loking for?

Acutally, there is fairly solid evidence that Quarians have some fairly normal hair. If one takes into account thier ancestry, which is similar to Humans, it's likeky they will have hair in many if not all of the place we do. Just the fact that they have eyebrows is a clue.

I just recall having read, I believe on the quarian wiki page, that they do not have hair on top of their heads. Otherwise I completely and absolutely agree with you.

[Felipe 058]

Scy Lancer wrote...

I like the new pic. Really like the eyes.
As for how Garrus would react...
Shepard: Garrus have time to talk?
Garrus: I'm kinda busy right now. Maybe later.
Shepard: No it's kinda important.
Garrus: Like how important?
Shepard: Like really f**kn important.
Garrus: What is it? Defeating a Reaper? Destroying another race that threatens humanity?
Shepard:...Tali and I are... well in a relationship now.
Garrus:.... What the hell is it with you and suicide missions?

That is definitely a Garrus reaction! 

[Pauravi]

Felipe 058 wrote...

Also, Pauravi, is this what you're loking for?

Nope, I found it
Thanks!

[Collider]

She looks much too old in that picture, but I agree that it does have merits. So does that CG picture with the cybernetics. As far as I know the whole concept art we have of Tali/Quarians has her with a human face with greyish skin, but that is likely a placeholder.

[RogueWriter3201]

Collider wrote...

glenboy24 wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Collider wrote...

Dreamwalker89 wrote...



just... wow... very nice

I really like it. The detail is amazing, it looks like professional CG that you would see from the companies Bioware hires to produce the CG trailers. She's quite cute as well, cute as a button really. I'd like her to be a bit more alien but I'm pretty stoked on this appearance.

I fully support this idea.  They even got the shape of her eyes right, which I'm not sure anyone else does.

Well, I'm pretty sure her eyes are a bit lighter than that, but the visor may just filter them differently since eyes a highly reflective. Also, I think we're all fairly certain that quarians have little (which this does well) to no hair, bordering on the no hair, though. Other than that, this is a spectacular pic, and I would love if Tali turned out like that. And I agree, the level of detail in this, whether it's CG or done by hand, is absolutely incredible. This is by far my most favorite non-ingame Tali image.

Also, Pauravi, is this what you're loking for?

Acutally, there is fairly solid evidence that Quarians have some fairly normal hair. If one takes into account thier ancestry, which is similar to Humans, it's likeky they will have hair in many if not all of the place we do. Just the fact that they have eyebrows is a clue.

How do you know that they have eyebrows? I don't believe that's solid evidence that they have hair. Quarians are humanoids but they evolved on a planet very different from Earth. The humanoid shape in general is quite good for manipulation and energy use, although not perfect. That doesn't require evolving from ape-like creatures with fur or hair.

Okay, I can't help but get the feeling that you might, and I said 'might', be arguing the point just for the sake of arguing. Have you read Ascension? Or read anything on the Wiki taken from Dev posts and the other books, etc? It clearly states that Quarians decended from a form of mammal very similar to Earth Kawalas (spelling?), as such thier evolutionary development is very similar to ours, and as we know Hair on the body of most land mammals developed for reasons of protection. i.e. the soft tissue on the top of the head, eyelashes, etc. As for the eyebrows? There have been several screen shots from in-game showing that Tali has eyebrows. I honesly can't believed you've never looked closely enough at her to notice.  

[Pauravi]

Collider wrote...

She looks much too old in that picture, but I agree that it does have merits.

Yes, I actually like it better as a physical description of Quarians in general than Tali specifically.

[Collider]

Ah, sorry if I came off as insulting. Are you sure they cited kawalas? If so, then that does make for a good case for possibly having fur. As for eyebrows, no I haven't, because I am lousy at using the camera to try to look into the mask. I believe you though as much as I can over the internet. do you have any pictures? also i did remember...the concept art had with eyebrows as well.

[Scy Lancer]

I'm glad to see more pictures of her with hair. I know there has been a lot of debate on weather or not she would have hair or not, but I'm a fan of it. Just as long as she doesn't have a tentacle head like the Asari.

[Pauravi]

Collider wrote...

As for eyebrows, no I haven't, because I am lousy at using the camera to try to look into the mask.

The texture under the mask has no eyebrows.  The eyebrow "evidence" is basically one picture where it looks like she has eyebrows visible through the visor, but they are not on the texture itself.  My personal feeling is that this isn't evidence for anything at all, just an effect produced by an interaction of reflection, the dark texture under her visor, and the contour of her face model.

I'm not saying that Tali does or doesn't have eyebrows or hair, just saying that the "eyebrow" picture is not actually of eyebrows

[Felipe 058]

Pauravi wrote...

Collider wrote...

2 eyes lips and a nose doesn't mean that they need to look like humans with a different skin color. I'd still like for her to look more alien. Doesn't mean it'll make her unattractive, I'd just like her to be more unique.

I agree.  Earlier I found an intriguing picture, and I managed to dig it up:
There is a lot about the picture that is interesting, even if you don't like it entirely.  Many of the more interesting details are actually compatible with the face we can see in the CGI picture that people are fawning over.

There are a few things wrong / inaccurate about this... for instance they lack the curved-back shin bones. Besides that, I think that the build of the body is too heavy for a female... the arms and neck especially are a bit thick; Tali is a pretty slight girl.  The nose is too wide/chunky for the profile that they give through the helmet, and the face overall is clearly not as feminine as what little we have been shown through the helmet.

However, there is one thing in particular I LOVE about this picture, and that is the way they did the neck and head.  The neck looks natural, and attractive, and mimics the profile of the Geth with the smooth line coming from their back, up their neck, and all the way over their head.   If you ignore the details the artist added, like skin markings and the little holes on the inside of the eyes, it also completely retains the human shape of the face while giving a physical basis for the somewhat elongated heads that Quarians appear to have.  They even have some aesthetically pleasing qualities that humans don't have, like that lovely swoop that her neck muscles make as they come down towards her collar-bone area.  The ears are also nicely handled.

Obviously Bioware already knows what Quarians look like, and it probably isn't like this.  But IMO it is an  interpretation that has a lot of merit and makes sense in a lot of ways.

The ears remind me of those of the asari, which I find somewhat incongruous in a quarian because the asari have all the folds of skin on their heads, which leads to how their ears are designed. The quarians don't have these folds, so it's unlikely that their ears look like that, but I'm just being picky right now.

Also, it's my opinion that this concept is a cross between a turian and an asari. If the asari actually took genetic material from the father species and created a hybrid of the two, I think this is what you would get 

[RogueWriter3201]

Collider wrote...

Ah, sorry if I came off as insulting. Are you sure they cited kawalas? If so, then that does make for a good case for possibly having fur. As for eyebrows, no I haven't, because I am lousy at using the camera to try to look into the mask. I believe you though as much as I can over the internet. do you have any pictures? also i did remember...the concept art had with eyebrows as well.

No, no. I didn't mean to imply you were being insulting. It just seemed like you enjoyed
the argument. Didn't mean to imply animosity. Anyway, yes, I'm sure. You can go to the
ME wiki yourself; it's bug free. Also, I don't have the picture, but if you go back a couple
of pages here in the thread, you can see the screen shot. And no, it's not from the
concept art. Also, if you haven't read Ascension, I would completely recommend doing
so before making too many assumptions about Quarian physiology. I just don't want
you to get a mental picture in your head about what Tali looks like, only to be dissapointed
when we, hopefully, see her in ME3.