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[Collider]

Personally it does not really matter to me whether she has hair. Of course it can look good if she does though, and it wouldn't be so bad considering that it would just be humans and quarians who have hair (turians, salarians, etc don't). but as you can see with the asari, it's not really something that's needed, although there may be something analogous to it for aesthetic reasons.

[Scy Lancer]

Felipe 058 wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

I like the new pic. Really like the eyes.
As for how Garrus would react...
Shepard: Garrus have time to talk?
Garrus: I'm kinda busy right now. Maybe later.
Shepard: No it's kinda important.
Garrus: Like how important?
Shepard: Like really f**kn important.
Garrus: What is it? Defeating a Reaper? Destroying another race that threatens humanity?
Shepard:...Tali and I are... well in a relationship now.
Garrus:.... What the hell is it with you and suicide missions?

That is definitely a Garrus reaction! 

It was either that or this ending.
Garrus measures Shepards arm: Well... You definetly have reach.

[RogueWriter3201]

Pauravi wrote...

Acutally, I can't say I like this picture. At all. Aside from the fact it seems to show way
TOO much of Tali's errongenous areas, her physiological appearence just seems
to lizard like, which does not match what we know about where Quarians came
from. I can appreciate the effort and attention to detail that went into it. But...I don't
know, I just can't say too many good things about this piece.

[Scy Lancer]

My friends have thought giving her a braid would be good. But BoiWare knows what their doing. They'll get it right.

[Pauravi]

Felipe 058 wrote...

The ears remind me of those of the asari, which I find somewhat incongruous in a quarian because the asari have all the folds of skin on their heads, which leads to how their ears are designed. The quarians don't have these folds, so it's unlikely that their ears look like that, but I'm just being picky right now.

Wha...?  Asari?  Asari don't even HAVE visible ears as near as I can tell.
Anyway, it is known that Quarians don't have external ear lobes, and I thought this seemed like a good treatment of it.  It could certainly be changed with minimal effect on the rest of the face, though, so I don't see that as a problem

Also, it's my opinion that this concept is a cross between a turian and an asari. If the asari actually took genetic material from the father species and created a hybrid of the two, I think this is what you would get 

Turian?  What part reminds you of Turians?  'Cause I really don't see it.

[Felipe 058]

I just realized that you've all been wallowing in the small version of this pic! Now you an bask in the full glory of Tali's Face (concept); trust me, its a whole lot better huge-ified, and it was already spectacular tiny:

[Felipe 058]

Pauravi wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...

The ears remind me of those of the asari, which I find somewhat incongruous in a quarian because the asari have all the folds of skin on their heads, which leads to how their ears are designed. The quarians don't have these folds, so it's unlikely that their ears look like that, but I'm just being picky right now.

Wha...?  Asari?  Asari don't even HAVE visible ears as near as I can tell.
Anyway, it is known that Quarians don't have external ear lobes, and I thought this seemed like a good treatment of it.  It could certainly be changed with minimal effect on the rest of the face, though, so I don't see that as a problem

Also, it's my opinion that this concept is a cross between a turian and an asari. If the asari actually took genetic material from the father species and created a hybrid of the two, I think this is what you would get 

Turian?  What part reminds you of Turians?  'Cause I really don't see it.

The part where on a human there would be ears, where it kinda goes into the head. On that concept it looks ridged, like on the asari. See it?

And as for the turians, when I was looking at it and glanced at your profile pic, there was a bit of a resemblance between the two. It's more in the basic shape of the face, not any features or anything actually concrete.

[Scy Lancer]

Felipe 058 wrote...

I just realized that you've all been wallowing in the small version of this pic! Now you an bask in the full glory of Tali's Face (concept); trust me, its a whole lot better huge-ified, and it was already spectacular tiny:

I really love the brown eyes. I didn't think she would look good with anything else but violet eyes.

[RogueWriter3201]

Oiy, it's late. Also, given that it seems like there's only three people on right now,
Lol, I think I shall at last take myself to bed. Thanks, Talimancers. See you
crazy kids tommrrow.

Keelah Se'lai

Tali Love Forever

[Pauravi]

glenboy24 wrote...

Acutally, I can't say I like this picture. At all. Aside from the fact it seems to show way
TOO much of Tali's errongenous areas

I thought I'd point out that this picture HAS no erogenous areas
It is a study of body shape, not specific anatomy.  The figure is a 'Barbie doll'.

her physiological appearence just seems
to lizard like, which does not match what we know about where Quarians came
from.

Not the first thing I thought, but I think I can see where you're getting that.  I think this impression comes from the pattern the artist put on her skin, and probably the way he drew her face, especially with the little "pits", for instance on the inside of her eyes.  Fortunately, neither of those things are essential to what I find interesting about the picture.  I like this picture more as a set of ideas about the overall body-shape of Quarians, not as a picture of any specific Quarian.

I'm not attached to any of the details, like the color or patterning of the skin, or even the specific face.  I like the arc of her back, the way her spine connects to her neck, and the way her neck connects with her head, for instance.  The artist drew the figure a bit too "muscled" for my tastes, and some of the curves are a bit too extreme.. almost comic-bookish.  But that doesn't keep me from liking the kernel of the idea.

[Felipe 058]

glenboy24 wrote...

Oiy, it's late. Also, given that it seems like there's only three people on right now,
Lol, I think I shall at last take myself to bed. Thanks, Talimancers. See you
crazy kids tommrrow.

Keelah Se'lai

Tali Love Forever

Agreed, I'm off to bed as well; it's beginning to get difficult to keep my eyes open.

Keelah se'lai and goodnight (again), fellow Talimancers 

[Scy Lancer]

Night Felipe, Night glenboy.

[Scy Lancer]

...Anyone think Tali wants to secretly fly the Normandy?

[Syokhan]

Felipe 058 wrote...

I just realized that you've all been wallowing in the small version of this pic! Now you an bask in the full glory of Tali's Face (concept); trust me, its a whole lot better huge-ified, and it was already spectacular tiny:

It's really beautiful, but um, source? Or are you the one who did this? I'd really like to leave a comment to whoever did this fanart.

[Pauravi]

Syokhan wrote...

It's really beautiful, but um, source? Or are you the one who did this? I'd really like to leave a comment to whoever did this fanart.

Not sure who did it or where it is from, but if you right-click -> view image to enlarge it, the artist put his email in the picture
(It's on her neck)

[Syokhan]

Pauravi wrote...
Not sure who did it or where it is from, but if you right-click -> view image to enlarge it, the artist put his email in the picture
(It's on her neck)

Thanks, I hadn't noticed that. But guys, it'd be so much easier to find this kind of thing if everyone linked to the source of the pictures they post... it's one of the basic rules of the Internet, really. Sorry if I'm ranting, it's just a big pet peeve of mine. Authors of fanart like this one deserve to be congratulated, but it's often difficult to do because you can't find out who they are when their work is just passed around without any link to their author or to the original post they appeared in.
So, there *cough*. Still, amazing picture. 

[Pauravi]

Syokhan wrote...

Pauravi wrote...
Not sure who did it or where it is from, but if you right-click -> view image to enlarge it, the artist put his email in the picture
(It's on her neck)

Thanks, I hadn't noticed that. But guys, it'd be so much easier to find this kind of thing if everyone linked to the source of the pictures they post... it's one of the basic rules of the Internet, really. Sorry if I'm ranting, it's just a big pet peeve of mine. Authors of fanart like this one deserve to be congratulated, but it's often difficult to do because you can't find out who they are when their work is just passed around without any link to their author or to the original post they appeared in.

I agree with you, and I'm fairly certain that it was linked by most people when it was originally posted oh.. I don't know.. maybe 100+ pages ago (this morning ).  I just didn't visit the link myself.

Edit: Upon further inspection, the name on the e-mail ('Vespaz') is a poster on this site and he asked someone else to post it for him.  It isn't taken off a website I guess.

Modifié par Pauravi, 12 mars 2010 - 10:29 .

[Elastica]

Felipe 058 wrote...

I just realized that you've all been wallowing in the small version of this pic! Now you an bask in the full glory of Tali's Face (concept); trust me, its a whole lot better huge-ified, and it was already spectacular tiny:

Reminds me of a voodoo shrunk Michael Jackson head. Aside from that it's impressive.

[Divulse456]

Hey everyone, or whoever is awake at this time.  My fanfiction.net account is finally active, so here's a link to part 1 of my story's prologue.  It's about Tali, of course!  Hope you enjoy.  Keelah se'lai.

A Semiotics of Loss: Prologue I


-Edit.  Weird, I posted on 2500 as well.  Jinx?

Modifié par Divulse456, 12 mars 2010 - 10:39 .

[Sol243]

Collider wrote...

glenboy24 wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Collider wrote...

Dreamwalker89 wrote...



just... wow... very nice

I really like it. The detail is amazing, it looks like professional CG that you would see from the companies Bioware hires to produce the CG trailers. She's quite cute as well, cute as a button really. I'd like her to be a bit more alien but I'm pretty stoked on this appearance.

I fully support this idea.  They even got the shape of her eyes right, which I'm not sure anyone else does.

Well, I'm pretty sure her eyes are a bit lighter than that, but the visor may just filter them differently since eyes a highly reflective. Also, I think we're all fairly certain that quarians have little (which this does well) to no hair, bordering on the no hair, though. Other than that, this is a spectacular pic, and I would love if Tali turned out like that. And I agree, the level of detail in this, whether it's CG or done by hand, is absolutely incredible. This is by far my most favorite non-ingame Tali image.

Also, Pauravi, is this what you're loking for?

Acutally, there is fairly solid evidence that Quarians have some fairly normal hair. If one takes into account thier ancestry, which is similar to Humans, it's likeky they will have hair in many if not all of the place we do. Just the fact that they have eyebrows is a clue.

How do you know that they have eyebrows? I don't believe that's solid evidence that they have hair. Quarians are humanoids but they evolved on a planet very different from Earth. The humanoid shape in general is quite good for manipulation and energy use, although not perfect. That doesn't require evolving from ape-like creatures with fur or hair.

Someone posted a screenshot of Tali a while ago that shows she has eyebrows so quarians can grow hair.

[Decurian]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
And heck, she's horrified when she finds out what her father did.  It seems to me like she's already plenty conflicted on the issue.

Yeah but I think that was mainly because he was so reckless with the Geth parts. He basically got everyone on that ship killed :/

And put the Flotilla in danger, yes.  I thought that, too, originally.  But she specifically says that she "never wanted this" in reference to the experiments being performed on the geth.

There's more going on in these scenes than just her issues with what her father was doing and why. Yeah, she's conflicted on the whole thing because what she really wants isn't happening. Shepard comments on this in his paragon response (he gets it finally), but the key to the situation is in the renegade response(s).

What Tali is really looking for is confirmation that her father loves her. What she wants to find is his farewell on that recording saying that he loved her. She doesn't find it. At the very end, she accepts this and moves beyond it--and the paragon Shepard dialog is what helps her do it. Renegade, not so much (but I'd have to read it again). Also, I think this scene is what brings about her response to Shepard's "I didn't do this for Rael..." statement after her trial.

Rael drives himself to do the unthinkable mainly because it's the only way he can express himself to his daughter. That's exactly what she didn't want from him, but she does go along with that plan since it's the only way she had of being close to him.

[Pauravi]

Sol243 wrote...

Someone posted a screenshot of Tali a while ago that shows she has eyebrows so quarians can grow hair.

One screenshot is hardly conclusive, especially since NO other screenshots show it.  Even when you clip inside her helmet to see the actual texture there are no eyebrows on it.  IMO, it's just a lighting effect interacting with the shape of the model underneath the visor.

[Sol243]

Pauravi wrote...

Sol243 wrote...

Someone posted a screenshot of Tali a while ago that shows she has eyebrows so quarians can grow hair.

One screenshot is hardly conclusive, especially since NO other screenshots show it.  Even when you clip inside her helmet to see the actual texture there are no eyebrows on it.  IMO, it's just a lighting effect interacting with the shape of the model underneath the visor.

The screenshot was a very good closeup of her face and I doubt it's a lighting effect. It could be when you clip inside it you cause the eyebrows to disappear. If I could find the picture and post it I could. I hope someone else has it.