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Alamar2078 wrote...

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I think its likely that ME3 follows the same path as ME2.  Your decisions affect characters and dialogue a lot, but the plot is locked down regardless of what you did in the past.  It really is the smartest way to go for Bioware.



I started to reply and argue against you but IMHO I think that you're mostly right.  The plot flow will likely be mostly locked in but I figure the ease of which you can get things done / how well you succeed will be at least somewhat determined by prior decisions.

For example if you don't save Wrex or the Rachni maybe a timed mission will be almost impossible leading to a failed mission that you can continue from [I.E. you don't have to replay it] but you lose an entire galactic civilization because of it.

Of course then you continue with the rest of the scripted plot and the prior failure doesn't matter in determining your next steps .....


Yeah you pretty much hit what I'm hoping for.  I don't want to not be able to save the galaxy because I killed the rachni 2 years ago when I played ME1.  The same way I wouldn't want to not be able to save the galaxy if I didn't play 1 or 2, and the default choices are "wrong."  If they make me take steps to make up for the wrong decisions, I'm just fine with that.

I guess it isn't as much past decisions can't affect the plot, just that they can't affect it and be unchangeable.  That's the route I would have preferred with ME2 as well though, and they chose to avoid changing the plot at all.

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Off topic but im curious. I haven't played DA-O, i think to myself if Bioware can make a game as monstrously successful as mass effect, could they then do the same with DA-O? IN COMPARISON TO ME1/ME2 how would you rate DA-O for all together playability and is it as fun the second play though as it is on the first like ME1/ME2? decisions to be made etc? Can i get the gist please?



Dragon Age is absolutely great. I had a lot more fun with it than with the original Mass Effect, and maybe even more fun than with ME2. However, it is nothing like ME, it's more of a classical RPG rather than an Action-RPG such as ME. I really can't tell you whether to buy it or not, it really depends on whether or not you enjoy RPGs.

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HK01 wrote...

HipHop402 wrote...

Off topic but im curious. I haven't played DA-O, i think to myself if Bioware can make a game as monstrously successful as mass effect, could they then do the same with DA-O? IN COMPARISON TO ME1/ME2 how would you rate DA-O for all together playability and is it as fun the second play though as it is on the first like ME1/ME2? decisions to be made etc? Can i get the gist please?



Dragon Age is absolutely great. I had a lot more fun with it than with the original Mass Effect, and maybe even more fun than with ME2. However, it is nothing like ME, it's more of a classical RPG rather than an Action-RPG such as ME. I really can't tell you whether to buy it or not, it really depends on whether or not you enjoy RPGs.


It also depends on your platform. If you play it on PC, it is a classical RPD, like Baldurs Gate 2 or Neverwinter Night 2. On the consoles it seems to be more like an action RPG. 

It is however a great game on all platforms. I personally would recommend the PC version though, at least if your PC is able to run it decently. 

BTW: testing Talibanner in my sig. :whistle:

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HK01 wrote...

HipHop402 wrote...

Off topic but im curious. I haven't played DA-O, i think to myself if Bioware can make a game as monstrously successful as mass effect, could they then do the same with DA-O? IN COMPARISON TO ME1/ME2 how would you rate DA-O for all together playability and is it as fun the second play though as it is on the first like ME1/ME2? decisions to be made etc? Can i get the gist please?



Dragon Age is absolutely great. I had a lot more fun with it than with the original Mass Effect, and maybe even more fun than with ME2. However, it is nothing like ME, it's more of a classical RPG rather than an Action-RPG such as ME. I really can't tell you whether to buy it or not, it really depends on whether or not you enjoy RPGs.


I definitely agree with this.  DA:O was outstanding.  The work they did to create a world in DA:O was just as impressive in most ways as in the ME universe.  The codex is huge, though there's no bad-ass voice-over.  :P

I think ME 1 had some gameplay mechanics that took away from some of the immersion.  In DA:O it's not a problem because it's supposed to be a Baldur's Gate type RPG, not an interactive blockbuster.  If you like older style RPG's DA:O is an awesome update.  

Nothing can hold a candle to ME2 though, for me.  It's silly how good it is.  And Tali... :wub:

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Uh, forgot a "/".

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Gerudan wrote...

HK01 wrote...

HipHop402 wrote...

Off topic but im curious. I haven't played DA-O, i think to myself if Bioware can make a game as monstrously successful as mass effect, could they then do the same with DA-O? IN COMPARISON TO ME1/ME2 how would you rate DA-O for all together playability and is it as fun the second play though as it is on the first like ME1/ME2? decisions to be made etc? Can i get the gist please?



Dragon Age is absolutely great. I had a lot more fun with it than with the original Mass Effect, and maybe even more fun than with ME2. However, it is nothing like ME, it's more of a classical RPG rather than an Action-RPG such as ME. I really can't tell you whether to buy it or not, it really depends on whether or not you enjoy RPGs.


It also depends on your platform. If you play it on PC, it is a classical RPD, like Baldurs Gate 2 or Neverwinter Night 2. On the consoles it seems to be more like an action RPG. 

It is however a great game on all platforms. I personally would recommend the PC version though, at least if your PC is able to run it decently. 

BTW: testing Talibanner in my sig. :whistle:

How good does your pc have to be to run it?

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Hi turncoat! Life treating you good?

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Alamar2078 wrote...

I generally trust Bioware but ME2 really didn't show any signs of ME1 decisions mattering [in other than cosmetic terms].


The decisions might not have affected the direct proceeding of the plot, but the impact in the gameplay universe is overwhelming and huge.
Consider the state of the council; re-emergence of rachni and unification of krogans. All of them are clearly major political and military factors which will determine galactic history for next centuries. Your actions in ME1 are shaping everything around you, shifting the balance of power. So far it's staying in the background, but there's just no way it would stay so when the reapers come.
Bioware cares, trust me. You're just still setting up the board pieces before the endgame begins. 
 

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They tried to get her exiled and showed no remorse or sympathy, she has the normandy now :)


Frankly, they showed quite a lot of remorse and sympathy. Both of the male admirals went out of their way to say to Tali that it was political, unfair and that they regretted it affected her. I trusted them both (yes, even Zaal'Koris) and though misguided they may be, they were definitely not without sympathy and remorse.

And I also fully believe Tali will be available in ME3 as a squadmate and LI.
Imagine how many people would feel betrayed if she wasn't. Bioware doesn't want to get this kind of hatred :bandit:

Keelah se'lai

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How good does your pc have to be to run it?


Well, look it up: http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Dragon_Age

My graphics card is a bit weak but I play it on PC nonetheless (it's running in the background while I post =])

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Gerudan wrote...

HK01 wrote...

HipHop402 wrote...

Off topic but im curious. I haven't played DA-O, i think to myself if Bioware can make a game as monstrously successful as mass effect, could they then do the same with DA-O? IN COMPARISON TO ME1/ME2 how would you rate DA-O for all together playability and is it as fun the second play though as it is on the first like ME1/ME2? decisions to be made etc? Can i get the gist please?



Dragon Age is absolutely great. I had a lot more fun with it than with the original Mass Effect, and maybe even more fun than with ME2. However, it is nothing like ME, it's more of a classical RPG rather than an Action-RPG such as ME. I really can't tell you whether to buy it or not, it really depends on whether or not you enjoy RPGs.


It also depends on your platform. If you play it on PC, it is a classical RPD, like Baldurs Gate 2 or Neverwinter Night 2. On the consoles it seems to be more like an action RPG. 

It is however a great game on all platforms. I personally would recommend the PC version though, at least if your PC is able to run it decently. 

BTW: testing Talibanner in my sig. :whistle:

How good does your pc have to be to run it?

Hi Somebody.

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Gerudan wrote...

It also depends on your platform. If you play it on PC, it is a classical RPD, like Baldurs Gate 2 or Neverwinter Night 2. On the consoles it seems to be more like an action RPG. 

It is however a great game on all platforms. I personally would recommend the PC version though, at least if your PC is able to run it decently. 

BTW: testing Talibanner in my sig. :whistle:


Just defending the console players for a sec.  I played the 360 version, which was supposedly the worst of the bunch.  I still thought the game was fantastic.  I'm sure the graphics were better on the PS3 and the camera was better on the PC, but the bones of the game are sturdy enough to make it excellent even if the graphics aren't melt-your-face-off awesome.  So if your PC doesn't cut the mustard, it's still worth the price.  Just my .02 ISK.

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Hi turncoat! Life treating you good?

Oh great just as I come back I get to hear that.<_<

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Gerudan wrote...

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How good does your pc have to be to run it?


Well, look it up: http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Dragon_Age

My graphics card is a bit weak but I play it on PC nonetheless (it's running in the background while I post =])

Well what kind of graphics card will I need, and how much ram?
Some site I saw said it need 4 ram.
Thats a lot.:unsure:

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Alamar2078 wrote...

I generally trust Bioware but ME2 really didn't show any signs of ME1 decisions mattering [in other than cosmetic terms].


The decisions might not have affected the direct proceeding of the plot, but the impact in the gameplay universe is overwhelming and huge.
Consider the state of the council; re-emergence of rachni and unification of krogans. All of them are clearly major political and military factors which will determine galactic history for next centuries. Your actions in ME1 are shaping everything around you, shifting the balance of power. So far it's staying in the background, but there's just no way it would stay so when the reapers come.
Bioware cares, trust me. You're just still setting up the board pieces before the endgame begins. 
 

Ragnarok Ekul wrote...

They tried to get her exiled and showed no remorse or sympathy, she has the normandy now :)


Frankly, they showed quite a lot of remorse and sympathy. Both of the male admirals went out of their way to say to Tali that it was political, unfair and that they regretted it affected her. I trusted them both (yes, even Zaal'Koris) and though misguided they may be, they were definitely not without sympathy and remorse.

And I also fully believe Tali will be available in ME3 as a squadmate and LI.
Imagine how many people would feel betrayed if she wasn't. Bioware doesn't want to get this kind of hatred :bandit:

Keelah se'lai

And besides if Tali isn't in ME3 then we'll just destroy the Bioware headquarters and hold the staff hostage.

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Hi Somebody.


Hey Cheesecake hows life?
Everytime I see your name I want some dessert.:unsure:

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Gerudan wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

How good does your pc have to be to run it?


Well, look it up: http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Dragon_Age

My graphics card is a bit weak but I play it on PC nonetheless (it's running in the background while I post =])


And when your PC is powerful enough it looks absolutely gorgeous.


Just my opinion, though. I've heard people complain about the graphicsImage IPB

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Somebody1003 wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Hi turncoat! Life treating you good?

Oh great just as I come back I get to hear that.<_<

Image IPB I'm messing with you, somebody. That's just you're new nickname from me. Like how I call that one guy Whelp. Don't be so seriousImage IPB

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danteshepard wrote...

Hi turncoat! Life treating you good?

Oh great just as I come back I get to hear that.<_<

Question, why do they call you turncoat?

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Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Hi Somebody.


Hey Cheesecake hows life?
Everytime I see your name I want some dessert.:unsure:

Some good some bad first the good...I did well on my exam...the bad ME3 isn't coming out anytime soon.

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Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Hi turncoat! Life treating you good?

Oh great just as I come back I get to hear that.<_<

Question, why do they call you turncoat?

we had a big arguement with her the other day. Shots were fired, threats were issued. Doc got kinda pissed. nothing to worry aboutImage IPB

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Darth Cheesecake wrote...

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danteshepard wrote...

Hi turncoat! Life treating you good?

Oh great just as I come back I get to hear that.<_<

Question, why do they call you turncoat?


I guess because he(?) changed his avatar.

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Well what kind of graphics card will I need, and how much ram?
Some site I saw said it need 4 ram.
Thats a lot.:unsure:


Depends on how smooth you want it to run. Officially it needs at least 1,5 GB under Vista/Win7, but the more the better of course. 

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Somebody1003 wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Hi turncoat! Life treating you good?

Oh great just as I come back I get to hear that.<_<

Image IPB I'm messing with you, somebody. That's just you're new nickname from me. Like how I call that one guy Whelp. Don't be so seriousImage IPB

Your the one that started the whole whelp thing?

And ok, I thought you were being serious with me since Im not a full Talimancer.:D

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HK01 wrote...

And when your PC is powerful enough it looks absolutely gorgeous.


Just my opinion, though. I've heard people complain about the graphicsImage IPB


ME2 certainly looks better, IMHO. 

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Hi turncoat! Life treating you good?

Oh great just as I come back I get to hear that.<_<

Question, why do they call you turncoat?

Because I like Liara.