Good man! we need your help to defend Tali from Darth Liara.The_KFD_Case wrote...
Darth Cheesecake wrote...
Good to have you back KFD!The_KFD_Case wrote...
I disagree that Ash's e-mail is/was "complete bs". Ash had been made aware of rumors that Cerberus might be involved with the attacks on the outlying human colonies, not that Shepard was now working with Cerberus (not even Anderson was aware of that if you recall the conversation with him on the Citadel after Horizon). Emotions can be a powerful and tricky thing, and it is not unusual for different people to react differently. I find Ash's explanation that it took her the better part of a year just to begin to be able to move on from a deep love connection with Shepard believable.
Hell, I've been in relationships where it's taken 1 to 1 ½ years before I could genuinely say the pain, hurt and sorrow of the relationship ending had finally subsided to a faint, dull numbness which could still (and still can,) erupt in to vivid emotions at times when certain elements are triggered. Bear in mind that in my case no one died. So for Ash, a woman who has made a lifetime habit of keeping most people at arm's length, to finally allow herself to open up to a romantic relationship with Shepard and then watch him die on the Normandy from her escape pod, having to live with that pain and quite possibly second guessing her actions in those last crucial moments, and then suddenly two+ years later without warning suddenly seeing him standing before her again without him having contacted her, yeah, that would very likely qualify as a shock to most people. I can easily imagine a myriad of emotions running through me in rapid succession on such an occasion. Ranging from disbelief, to happiness and excitement, to anger and uncertainty, etc.
Ready and able good sir! Reporting for duty!
All Tali fans, read this! IT'S UP TO US TO KEEP TALI ALIVE! 3.0!!
#67226
Guest_Darth Cheesecake_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:06
Guest_Darth Cheesecake_*
#67227
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:06
Shazzammer2 wrote...
Welcome KFD
Cheers Shazz.
#67228
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:07
Agreed. If she's doing all this for Shepard, that's fine. But when Shepeard comes in the door and says "Come with me, this is beneath you," and she says no, that constitutes a refusal to come with him, and in my books constitutes a break-up.HK01 wrote...
Darth Cheesecake wrote...
And besides she probably cheated on you with her "friend" while you were dead.HK01 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
I did one ME1 run where I romanced Liara, then another ME1 rum where I had no Li's.
No cheating on Liara for me.
Again, it's not cheating. She's got "other" things to do then come with you. She leaves you for some retarded personal revenge mission.
If avenging his death is more important to her than coming with Shepard to SAVE THE GALAXY, then yes, it's likely.
Then again, I didn't romance Liara- my guy was with Ashley, and after the crap she pulled on Horizon- demeaning Shepard, claiming he betrayed her and was an "enemy" now, claiming that she THOUGHT she loved me (indicating that she DIDN'T), that constitues a break up in my book, this green lighting my guy with Tali. The e-mail was too little, too late.
#67229
Guest_Somebody1003_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:07
Guest_Somebody1003_*
Yes, look that the people here that have Tali as their avatars.SU37 wrote...
Isn't it obvious? He's a true Liara fanboy.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
Oh I forgot to ask why did you change your picture Somebody?
Its because they like Tali.
#67230
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:08
Somebody1003 wrote...
She did not, he helped her and he was taken by the SB.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
And besides she probably cheated on you with her "friend" while you were dead.HK01 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
I did one ME1 run where I romanced Liara, then another ME1 rum where I had no Li's.
No cheating on Liara for me.
Again, it's not cheating. She's got "other" things to do then come with you. She leaves you for some retarded personal revenge mission.
And he's somehow more important than Shep to her. I'm sure that holds no meaning
#67231
Guest_Somebody1003_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:08
Guest_Somebody1003_*
#67232
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:08
The_KFD_Case wrote...
Phil725 wrote...
*snip*
That email was complete bs. She had plenty of time to come to grips with me being alive and being with Cerberus. She believed propaganda over the person she loved. Compare it to Tali, she was completely blindsided by Shep's appearance, and still listened to you. She has way more reason to hate Cerberus than Ashley ever did. This is after she is encased in stasis and I save her. She still believes the people that set her up to die over me. Her reactions on Horizon are unforgivable. She's dead to me for ME3, I really hope they make it so that if you "cheat" on your ME1 LI they don't join your team in ME3.
She still cares for me because Bioware wants the relationship to carry over to ME3. No other reason.
I disagree that Ash's e-mail is/was "complete bs". Ash had been made aware of rumors that Cerberus might be involved with the attacks on the outlying human colonies, not that Shepard was now working with Cerberus (not even Anderson was aware of that if you recall the conversation with him on the Citadel after Horizon). Emotions can be a powerful and tricky thing, and it is not unusual for different people to react differently. I find Ash's explanation that it took her the better part of a year just to begin to be able to move on from a deep love connection with Shepard believable.
Hell, I've been in relationships where it's taken 1 to 1 ½ years before I could genuinely say the pain, hurt and sorrow of the relationship ending had finally subsided to a faint, dull numbness which could still (and still can,) erupt in to vivid emotions at times when certain elements are triggered. Bear in mind that in my case no one died. So for Ash, a woman who has made a lifetime habit of keeping most people at arm's length, to finally allow herself to open up to a romantic relationship with Shepard and then watch him die on the Normandy from her escape pod, having to live with that pain and quite possibly second guessing her actions in those last crucial moments, and then suddenly two+ years later without warning suddenly seeing him standing before her again without him having contacted her, yeah, that would very likely qualify as a shock to most people. I can easily imagine a myriad of emotions running through me in rapid succession on such an occasion. Ranging from disbelief, to happiness and excitement, to anger and uncertainty, etc.
The thing I can't get over is that she believes the Alliance over me. Everything comes back to that. If she truly loved me, I don't see how she can stand there and call me a liar. I just don't see her reactions being consistent with someone who is that caught up with emotion. Her first reaction when she sees me is to believe Alliance propaganda over the person she's loved all this time? Huh? I saw that as pretty honest view into her feelings. I don't see her suddenly deciding that I'm the most important thing in her life, and I don't want that.
#67233
Guest_SU37_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:08
Guest_SU37_*
I see how it is...Somebody1003 wrote...
Yes, look that the people here that have Tali as their avatars.SU37 wrote...
Isn't it obvious? He's a true Liara fanboy.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
Oh I forgot to ask why did you change your picture Somebody?
Its because they like Tali.
#67234
Guest_Somebody1003_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:09
Guest_Somebody1003_*
Once she finishes her hunt Im sure she would help him.HK01 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
She did not, he helped her and he was taken by the SB.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
And besides she probably cheated on you with her "friend" while you were dead.HK01 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
I did one ME1 run where I romanced Liara, then another ME1 rum where I had no Li's.
No cheating on Liara for me.
Again, it's not cheating. She's got "other" things to do then come with you. She leaves you for some retarded personal revenge mission.
And he's somehow more important than Shep to her. I'm sure that holds no meaning
She cant just drop everything on a moments notice, even for Shepard.
#67235
Guest_Somebody1003_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:09
Guest_Somebody1003_*
What?SU37 wrote...
I see how it is...Somebody1003 wrote...
Yes, look that the people here that have Tali as their avatars.SU37 wrote...
Isn't it obvious? He's a true Liara fanboy.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
Oh I forgot to ask why did you change your picture Somebody?
Its because they like Tali.
Its true, look at you, you like Tali so you have her as your avatar.
#67236
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:09
#67237
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:10

#67238
Guest_Darth Cheesecake_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:10
Guest_Darth Cheesecake_*
Yes and now she couldn't care less about Shepard...what's more important revenge or the fate of all advanced life in the galaxy. Her priorities need a serious work around.Somebody1003 wrote...
She did not, he helped her and he was taken by the SB.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
And besides she probably cheated on you with her "friend" while you were dead.HK01 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
I did one ME1 run where I romanced Liara, then another ME1 rum where I had no Li's.
No cheating on Liara for me.
Again, it's not cheating. She's got "other" things to do then come with you. She leaves you for some retarded personal revenge mission.
#67239
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:10
hello everybody what I miss
#67240
Guest_SU37_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:10
Guest_SU37_*
You don't know that! Maybe I just have her as my avatar because I want to.Somebody1003 wrote...
What?SU37 wrote...
I see how it is...Somebody1003 wrote...
Yes, look that the people here that have Tali as their avatars.SU37 wrote...
Isn't it obvious? He's a true Liara fanboy.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
Oh I forgot to ask why did you change your picture Somebody?
Its because they like Tali.
Its true, look at you, you like Tali so you have her as your avatar.
#67241
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:11
Somebody1003 wrote...
Once she finishes her hunt Im sure she would help him.HK01 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
She did not, he helped her and he was taken by the SB.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
And besides she probably cheated on you with her "friend" while you were dead.HK01 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
I did one ME1 run where I romanced Liara, then another ME1 rum where I had no Li's.
No cheating on Liara for me.
Again, it's not cheating. She's got "other" things to do then come with you. She leaves you for some retarded personal revenge mission.
And he's somehow more important than Shep to her. I'm sure that holds no meaning
She cant just drop everything on a moments notice, even for Shepard.
Doesn't she say it could take decades to stop TSB? She's an asari, she has that time to waste, Shepard doesn't.
#67242
Guest_Somebody1003_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:11
Guest_Somebody1003_*
You cant expect her to drop everything she has been working on on a moments notice, even for Shepard.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
Yes and now she couldn't care less about Shepard...what's more important revenge or the fate of all advanced life in the galaxy. Her priorities need a serious work around.Somebody1003 wrote...
She did not, he helped her and he was taken by the SB.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
And besides she probably cheated on you with her "friend" while you were dead.HK01 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
I did one ME1 run where I romanced Liara, then another ME1 rum where I had no Li's.
No cheating on Liara for me.
Again, it's not cheating. She's got "other" things to do then come with you. She leaves you for some retarded personal revenge mission.
#67243
Guest_Darth Cheesecake_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:11
Guest_Darth Cheesecake_*
No not at all they're just "close friends" *cough*with benifits*cough*HK01 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
She did not, he helped her and he was taken by the SB.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
And besides she probably cheated on you with her "friend" while you were dead.HK01 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
I did one ME1 run where I romanced Liara, then another ME1 rum where I had no Li's.
No cheating on Liara for me.
Again, it's not cheating. She's got "other" things to do then come with you. She leaves you for some retarded personal revenge mission.
And he's somehow more important than Shep to her. I'm sure that holds no meaning
#67244
Guest_Somebody1003_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:12
Guest_Somebody1003_*
Ok fine then sheeesh.SU37 wrote...
You don't know that! Maybe I just have her as my avatar because I want to.Somebody1003 wrote...
What?SU37 wrote...
I see how it is...Somebody1003 wrote...
Yes, look that the people here that have Tali as their avatars.SU37 wrote...
Isn't it obvious? He's a true Liara fanboy.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
Oh I forgot to ask why did you change your picture Somebody?
Its because they like Tali.
Its true, look at you, you like Tali so you have her as your avatar.
#67245
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:12
#67246
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:12
Somebody1003 wrote...
Once she finishes her hunt Im sure she would help him.HK01 wrote...
And he's somehow more important than Shep to her. I'm sure that holds no meaning
She cant just drop everything on a moments notice, even for Shepard.
What stops her from abandoning her stupid little hunt? "Sure Shep, you go on a suicide mission which you probably won't return from to save hundreds of thousands of people, but I can't come and help you with that, I've got to avenge the death of one person. And make money."
#67247
Guest_Somebody1003_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:12
Guest_Somebody1003_*
She has been tracking him down for years, dropping everything could mean that shed have to start all over.Phil725 wrote...
Doesn't she say it could take decades to stop TSB? She's an asari, she has that time to waste, Shepard doesn't.
#67248
Guest_SU37_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:13
Guest_SU37_*
Didn't mean to upset you.Somebody1003 wrote...
Ok fine then sheeesh.
Sorry.
#67249
Guest_Darth Cheesecake_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:13
Guest_Darth Cheesecake_*
Again revenge or a loved one and the fate of all advanced life in the f*cking galaxy!Somebody1003 wrote...
You cant expect her to drop everything she has been working on on a moments notice, even for Shepard.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
Yes and now she couldn't care less about Shepard...what's more important revenge or the fate of all advanced life in the galaxy. Her priorities need a serious work around.Somebody1003 wrote...
She did not, he helped her and he was taken by the SB.Darth Cheesecake wrote...
And besides she probably cheated on you with her "friend" while you were dead.HK01 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
I did one ME1 run where I romanced Liara, then another ME1 rum where I had no Li's.
No cheating on Liara for me.
Again, it's not cheating. She's got "other" things to do then come with you. She leaves you for some retarded personal revenge mission.
#67250
Guest_Somebody1003_*
Posté 13 mars 2010 - 05:13
Guest_Somebody1003_*
She wants to avenge her friend, and take out the SB for what they did to her and Shepard.HK01 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
Once she finishes her hunt Im sure she would help him.HK01 wrote...
And he's somehow more important than Shep to her. I'm sure that holds no meaning
She cant just drop everything on a moments notice, even for Shepard.
What stops her from abandoning her stupid little hunt? "Sure Shep, you go on a suicide mission which you probably won't return from to save hundreds of thousands of people, but I can't come and help you with that, I've got to avenge the death of one person. And make money."




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