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THE FOLLOWING IS A SERIOUS POST
The Justicar system is by definition bent to self-policing, albeit imperfectly. When anything approaching a theological or absolutist authoritiarian order is defined by a set of inflexible documents and/or narrow intepretation of conduct and gives rise to a "rogue" element, those elements are invariably suppressed, hunted down or challenged by the majority of the individuals produced by that same system.
The Justicars do not need oversight in the same way as C-Sec needs it - The near total majority of Justicars who emerge from their order will be compelled to remove rogue Justicars by their code which leaves no room for intepretation in such matters. The difference between C-Sec, and even the Spectres and the Justicar order being of course that the latter has supreme and total authority to act whereas even Spectres do not.
To clarify in my post I wasn't talking about rogue justicars that need to be hunted down I was talking about the fact that even normal justicars have done things in the past that would likely contradict the code. For example. Asari are often mercs in thier maiden stage - then something happens that makes them decide to become a justicar (like what happened to Samara) Now the code would compel them to kill a person who does something wicked. And they know that they have, yet they dont kill themselves. Selective Justice Much. No one is above flaw, everyone no matter how noble or good has made mistakes and has wickedness inside them. The only way the code could overcome this is if justicars where trained from birth thus thier actions could be excused as under the code but thier not so 
THE FOLLOWING IS A SERIOUS POST
There's nothing about the Justicar code that assumes retrospective punishment. There are plenty of real-world examples where a person's history can be perfectly, legally, "masked". The classic example would be the French Foreign Legion, which even allows those to enlist with "false" names.
There's plenty of real-world examples of individuals who led questionable lives until dedicating themselves to a cause or goal entirely noble and proper. There's no reason to assume the Asari Justicar Code is retrospective; that'd be self-defeating - it would probably lead to the order dying out.
To command the power and authority of a Justicar would require a lot of real-world experience before one even began the path. To know what is good and proper, one must know what is not. I would posit that a hypothetical Justicar who had never done a questionable thing, never made a true error of judgement or act would be a less capable Justicar.
Well "IF" that where true it would just cuase another hypocracy. For if the code is designed to punish the wicked but allows for not punishing the wickedness that one has done in the past then you are not punishing the wicked.
Furthermore such a defense would present itself as yes I murdered that man but I'm not murdering right now. That was the past. Then any punishment thereto doled out would be retroactive by definition and thus would revert to the old state of hypocracy
And Finally All of what that last exchange is tottally irrelevent becuase ALL punishment is retroactive by the very meaning of the word. You can not punish someone for a crime unless that crime has already been committed.
You're applying your argument from a position of due process as understood in Western / First World developed judicial systems. There is no canon evidence that the Justicars are even an organ of the Asari Republics - There is evidence that they are tolerated, allowed to operate with supreme judicial authority, but there's no evidence that I'm aware of that clearly states the Justicar Order is a component of the Asari federal government.
Assuming that to be the case, what your definition of "Wickedness" is depends entirely on the precise wording fo the code. We can draw on facts established by the game :In this case wickedness seems more akin to the way the Catholic Church of old might have used the word, rather than wickedness in a legal sense empowered by a government legal authority.
Committing a wrong does not disqualify one from punishing a wrong - evidence of that is all around you for several thousand years into the history of all civilisations.
It seems like you're taking the view I'm arguing against any hypocrisy. I am not - there is hypocrisy in virtually ever single system of control ever conceived by one human being over another, and so I see no reason why the Asari, or the Salarians, or the Baataraians or the Krogan would be any different.
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Well "IF" that where true it would just cuase another hypocracy.
For if the code is designed to punish the wicked but allows for not
punishing the wickedness that one has done in the past then you are not
punishing the wicked."
That is totally subjective - It is entirely possible that the Justicar Code is in fact itself a form of penance, rather than a path chosen in the same way one would join the military.
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