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[valttu]

mothbanquet wrote...

valttu wrote...

Helloooooooooo!!!!!!! I'm here again.

How's it going? I see our thread is nearing the 300 page mark... <3

Dammnnn, when I play ME2 I can't keep my eyes off DEM HIPS...

Hey valttu my friend, hope you're well!

Thanks, you too!

I just noticed that you've finally written the next part of Dark Rendition! I'll read it soon!

[Yionel]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Did Legion's loyalty mission just now. Of course with Tali.
Rewriting or destroying the Geth, that's pretty much the most difficult decision in the entire game, I find.
Especially for Tali lovers I bet.

Tali is way to level headed to be completely pissed at you for rewriting

[vykvyper1]

Lord_Moose wrote...

DrakeforBake wrote...
Also, Tali's feet. I don't know why but I find the 2 toes fascinating.

Gah! It's Three Toes! Three!

I wake up... see this... and I think "Well, it's another toe... okay"
then I think, "what!? who am I? why am I thinking this?"
then I remember that it's Tali, and everythings back to happy thoughts:blink:

[valttu]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

vykvyper1 wrote...

Yionel wrote...

be careful with this... It has enough cute to destroy the universe

Agreed!

Awwwwwwwwww I love dat little cute Tali..... Who drew those? 

[malkiah13]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Did Legion's loyalty mission just now. Of course with Tali.

Rewriting or destroying the Geth, that's pretty much the most difficult decision in the entire game, I find.

Especially for Tali lovers I bet.

Yeah, I spent a good 20 minutes staring at the dialogue box. In the end I destroyed them; I didn't want them getting rewritten and then mass effect 3 comes and they refuse to let the quarians take their home back

[vykvyper1]

valttu wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

vykvyper1 wrote...

Yionel wrote...

be careful with this... It has enough cute to destroy the universe

Agreed!

Awwwwwwwwww I love dat little cute Tali..... Who drew those? 

going by the filename, I'd hazard a guess that it was someone called "SilverGriffonAce"

[Lareit]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Did Legion's loyalty mission just now. Of course with Tali.
Rewriting or destroying the Geth, that's pretty much the most difficult decision in the entire game, I find.
Especially for Tali lovers I bet.

I'm pretty strongly paragon, and I always destroy them.

Has nothing to do with Tali or the quarians either. It's purely from a morale standpoint as well as risk vs reward scenario.

Firstly, brainwashing organics is worse then death. When you reprogram/brainwash something, you are effectively killing them, then you're insulting their previous choices by having whats left of them act in a manner they did not choose.

Secondly, honorable death as your enemy also makes rewriting them seem unjust. They choose to be your enemy, their choice should allow them to die for what they believe in. It goes with the brainwashing, but I don't want people hung up on the "killing them is bad too" clause.

It's also risky too.

It's not unthinkable that they won't keep the same frame of thought, it's also possible if they reconnect to the geth collective that their experiance of being rewritten couldn't negatively affect legion's geth and cause some dramatic side effects of a very negative nature.

So to me, destroying them is the only choice both logically and morally.

[Yionel]

valttu wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

vykvyper1 wrote...

Yionel wrote...

be careful with this... It has enough cute to destroy the universe

Agreed!

Awwwwwwwwww I love dat little cute Tali..... Who drew those? 

http://silvergriffon...hibis-100037434

[Jake71887]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Did Legion's loyalty mission just now. Of course with Tali.
Rewriting or destroying the Geth, that's pretty much the most difficult decision in the entire game, I find.
Especially for Tali lovers I bet.

Eh, I thought it was fairly morally straightforward 

[The_KFD_Case]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Did Legion's loyalty mission just now. Of course with Tali.
Rewriting or destroying the Geth, that's pretty much the most difficult decision in the entire game, I find.
Especially for Tali lovers I bet.

I love Tali. I want the Quarians to find a stable planetary home. I favour a peaceful solution since the Geth would likely tear the Quarians a new hole and hang them by it if war ensued. If the Heretics only account for ca. 5% of all Geth then yes, it will make the Geth stronger overall having them return, but the Get would remain formidable with or without them. Conclusion: I opted for virus "re-set" attack. Besides, the Geth as presented by Legion do not seem unreasonable - far from it. They actually seem more tolerant and enlightened than many of the organic races.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 22 février 2010 - 02:23 .

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

Yionel wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Did Legion's loyalty mission just now. Of course with Tali.
Rewriting or destroying the Geth, that's pretty much the most difficult decision in the entire game, I find.
Especially for Tali lovers I bet.

Tali is way to level headed to be completely pissed at you for rewriting

That's not what I'm worried about. But what if the combined forces of the Geth give the Quarians even more trouble in ME3? On my first playthrough, and on this one as well, I decided to rewrite them. But I might have to replay ME2 and destroy them instead when ME3 is out.
That wouldn't be a problem though, the combat system in ME2 is really enjoyable, I don't think it'll ever be as big of a problem to replay ME2 as it is for me to replay ME1. And all just to save myself for Tali, and to avoid Liara being pissed at me in ME3.

Still, I'm very curious to see how this rewrite/destroy decision will affect ME3.

[Yionel]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Yionel wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Did Legion's loyalty mission just now. Of course with Tali.
Rewriting or destroying the Geth, that's pretty much the most difficult decision in the entire game, I find.
Especially for Tali lovers I bet.

Tali is way to level headed to be completely pissed at you for rewriting

That's not what I'm worried about. But what if the combined forces of the Geth give the Quarians even more trouble in ME3? On my first playthrough, and on this one as well, I decided to rewrite them. But I might have to replay ME2 and destroy them instead when ME3 is out.
That wouldn't be a problem though, the combat system in ME2 is really enjoyable, I don't think it'll ever be as big of a problem to replay ME2 as it is for me to replay ME1. And all just to save myself for Tali, and to avoid Liara being pissed at me in ME3.

Still, I'm very curious to see how this rewrite/destroy decision will affect ME3.

Well i based my decision of what i thought of Legion..did i trust him? not completely but im willing to take a chance on him

[Gerudan]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Did Legion's loyalty mission just now. Of course with Tali.
Rewriting or destroying the Geth, that's pretty much the most difficult decision in the entire game, I find.
Especially for Tali lovers I bet.

It is an easy choice, when you talk a bit to Legion. 

Then you see, that the Quarians were wrong. 

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Did Legion's loyalty mission just now. Of course with Tali.
Rewriting or destroying the Geth, that's pretty much the most difficult decision in the entire game, I find.
Especially for Tali lovers I bet.

I love Tali. I want the Quarians to find a stable planetary home. I favour a peaceful solution since the Geth would like tear the Quarians a new hole and hang them by it. If the Heretics only account for ca. 5% of all Geth then yes, it will make the Geth stronger overall having them return, but the Get would remain formidable with or without them. Conclusion: I opted for virus "re-set" attack. Besides, the Geth as presented by Legion do not seem unreasonable - far from it. They actually seem more tolerant and enlightened than many of the organic races.

Where does it say that the Heretics are only 5% of the total Geth amount? In my mind, I pictured a somewhat 50/50 of "normal" Geth and Heretics.
And yeah, Legion seems reasonable enough, but I'm still not sure if it's safe to assume, as Joker says, "That'll never bite us in the ass."

[NuclearBuddha]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Did Legion's loyalty mission just now. Of course with Tali.
Rewriting or destroying the Geth, that's pretty much the most difficult decision in the entire game, I find.
Especially for Tali lovers I bet.

I love Tali. I want the Quarians to find a stable planetary home. I favour a peaceful solution since the Geth would like tear the Quarians a new hole and hang them by it. If the Heretics only account for ca. 5% of all Geth then yes, it will make the Geth stronger overall having them return, but the Get would remain formidable with or without them. Conclusion: I opted for virus "re-set" attack. Besides, the Geth as presented by Legion do not seem unreasonable - far from it. They actually seem more tolerant and enlightened than many of the organic races.

I thought it was tough because the choice seems morally ambiguous.  I mean, brainwashing usually isn't in the paragon playbook.  It seemed almost more correct to destroy the heretic:  it was their choice and they get to live with the consequences.  Legion even seemed to suggest that this was the right course of action.  Then again, there's the united geth vs. reapers issue.

Here's how I decided:  the last time I talked to Legion about it, he said his internal vote was 573 for rewrite, 571 for destroy.  Rewrite it was!

That mission was fascinating.  ME1 reveals basically nothing about the geth.

[valttu]

Yionel wrote...

valttu wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

vykvyper1 wrote...

Yionel wrote...

be careful with this... It has enough cute to destroy the universe

Agreed!

Awwwwwwwwww I love dat little cute Tali..... Who drew those? 

http://silvergriffon...hibis-100037434

Dat guy is my new hero!

[Gerudan]

The_KFD_Case wrote...
They actually seem more tolerant and enlightened than many of the organic races.

If the Quarians would want to, they could simply settle back to their homeworld, as long, as they would do it peacefully. 

[The_KFD_Case]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Did Legion's loyalty mission just now. Of course with Tali.
Rewriting or destroying the Geth, that's pretty much the most difficult decision in the entire game, I find.
Especially for Tali lovers I bet.

I love Tali. I want the Quarians to find a stable planetary home. I favour a peaceful solution since the Geth would like tear the Quarians a new hole and hang them by it. If the Heretics only account for ca. 5% of all Geth then yes, it will make the Geth stronger overall having them return, but the Get would remain formidable with or without them. Conclusion: I opted for virus "re-set" attack. Besides, the Geth as presented by Legion do not seem unreasonable - far from it. They actually seem more tolerant and enlightened than many of the organic races.

Where does it say that the Heretics are only 5% of the total Geth amount? In my mind, I pictured a somewhat 50/50 of "normal" Geth and Heretics.
And yeah, Legion seems reasonable enough, but I'm still not sure if it's safe to assume, as Joker says, "That'll never bite us in the ass."

I thought someone might ask about that. Remember: The Codex and mission logs are your friends.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 22 février 2010 - 02:25 .

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Here's how I decided:  the last time I talked to Legion about it, he said his internal vote was 573 for rewrite, 571 for destroy.  Rewrite it was!

That's exactly how I decided the first time as well.

[The_KFD_Case]

Gerudan wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
They actually seem more tolerant and enlightened than many of the organic races.

If the Quarians would want to, they could simply settle back to their homeworld, as long, as they would do it peacefully. 

Quite possibly, though the Geth will need some sort of convincing pledge from the Quarians that they won't attack them on sight as they have had a habit of doing 100% of the every encounter where they thought they could defeat the Geth (the other times they've quickly run away).

[NuclearBuddha]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Here's how I decided:  the last time I talked to Legion about it, he said his internal vote was 573 for rewrite, 571 for destroy.  Rewrite it was!

That's exactly how I decided the first time as well.

Heh, those two runtimes made all the difference.

[The_KFD_Case]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Here's how I decided:  the last time I talked to Legion about it, he said his internal vote was 573 for rewrite, 571 for destroy.  Rewrite it was!

That's exactly how I decided the first time as well.

Aye, that was the final straw that tipped the scales in my mind as well.

[Lareit]

NuclearBuddha wrote...





I thought it was tough because the choice seems morally ambiguous.  I mean, brainwashing usually isn't in the paragon playbook.  It seemed almost more correct to destroy the heretic:  it was their choice and they get to live with the consequences.  Legion even seemed to suggest that this was the right course of action.  Then again, there's the united geth vs. reapers issue.

Here's how I decided:  the last time I talked to Legion about it, he said his internal vote was 573 for rewrite, 571 for destroy.  Rewrite it was!

That mission was fascinating.  ME1 reveals basically nothing about the geth.

Actually the vote has me concerned about Legion and the geth. They believe all intelligent life should self determinate...but decide to vote in favor of rewriting the heretics(even if they didn't reach full consensus) because it was convienent.

[NuclearBuddha]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Gerudan wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
They actually seem more tolerant and enlightened than many of the organic races.

If the Quarians would want to, they could simply settle back to their homeworld, as long, as they would do it peacefully. 

Quite possibly, though the Geth will need some sort of convincing pledge from the Quarians that they won't attack them on sight as they have had a habit of doing 100% of the every encounter where they thought they could defeat the Geth (the other times they've quickly run away).

I think the geth need to chill.  The quarians are almost no threat to them.  If the geth packed up and got out of the system, they would have nothing whatsoever to fear from them.  The quarians would have their hands too full trying to resettle to think about looking for revenge. 

Which kind of makes me wonder where the disconnect is, or if someone is leaving out part of the truth.

[Gerudan]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Quite possibly, though the Geth will need some sort of convincing pledge from the Quarians that they won't attack them on sight as they have had a habit of doing 100% of the every encounter where they thought they could defeat the Geth (the other times they've quickly run away). 

I'm not sure, if Geth can feel mistrust. They would probably defend themselfs, if the Quarians would attack again, but nothing more. 

As I already said a few days ago: I would really like to bring the Quarians back to their homeworld and find a peacefully solution for them in ME3.