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[alickar]

*Dramatic song comes outta nowhere

[The_KFD_Case]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Oh, and I just realized... an english "billion" is 1.000.000.000, right?
Much easier than trying to earn german ones.

Yes, and the phenomenon you are referring to occurs in Danish with the use of the word "billion". A "billion" in Danish would be the equivalent of a "trillion" in English in regards to the word mirroring the English spelled word, IIRC.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 22 février 2010 - 10:44 .

[Jake71887]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

I was going to say something more or less important, but I forgot what it was, so I'll say something unimportant instead.
Although they said that Project Lazarus was a one-time deal, just for Shep, I sure as hell would go around collecting all the billions I'd need to pull a Lazarus on Tali if they'd let her die in ME3.

Wouldn't be hard, I had almost a  billion credits at the end of ME1 

Nice try Jake! The cut off is 9,999,999 credits in ME1, IIRC. Not even close to a billion.

Been a while, but I could've sworn it was 999,999,999

I don't think so.

Nope, just checked, you're right... It's possible I may need to go back and play the first sometime soon 

[KironDrayga]

My first post here and it has to be about Tali.



Let me tell you my story. You see, I'm an interesting sort of Tali fan. I'll confess something: I really didn't care much for her in ME1. She was a fine character -- I liked just about all the ME1 squadmates -- but she didn't stick out. Her traits felt generic and tied to her history as a Quarian, and aside from her unique species it was difficult to ascertain her true personality. I didn't mind the find that you couldn't pursue her as a romantic interest. At that point, she seemed a bit too young to woo, and both Ashley and Liara caught my attention.



But then something fascinating happened during my Mass Effect 2 playthrough. My perspective completely changed. And what's interesting is that I can narrow down the point where I started to find Tali a really attractive LI option to a single moment of throwaway dialogue.



During Tali's mission, you eventually enter what once was her base of operations on the planet she and her Quarian task force had infiltrated. There's a completely optional voicemail of sorts you can listen in on if you investigate the equipment in the area. The recording apparently took place quite some time ago -- maybe when Tali and the rest of the universe thought Shepard was dead, or maybe after she learned he was alive. The details don't really matter, but what I liked was that one of my old ME1 squadmates actually *missed me.* And she brought Shepard up in the course of a dialogue that had nothing whatsoever to do with him. He just entered her thoughts.



...I thought that was profoundly sweet, and quite possibly one of my favorite moments in the game, and even more emotionally uplifting than all the hugs and the makeout sessions and the cute flirtations.



At that point, Ashley, my LI in ME1, had treated me like dirt. It was a perfectly fine plot development and I understood why Bioware turned up the romantic tension by making Ashley and Shepard completely unable to communicate their respective positions. They both messed up, and they both looked like fools, but it didn't change the fact that I felt profoundly saddened by Ashley's betrayal. It sounded as if she had genuinely moved on, and that those two years had led her to develop a life independent of Shepard. I understood her motives. And I still like Ashley plenty as a character. But it left me feeling...lonely. And terrible for my poor Shepard, who really didn't want to join Cerberus in the first place.



Ashley's hostility and lack of interest came somewhat out of left field but Liara's was straight out of the ballpark. In ME1 she was sweet, kind, understanding, thoroughly interested in being friendly (or more) with Shepard. In ME2 she's turned into someone barely recognizable. And like Ashley, she didn't seem much excited by Shepard's presence. There was a brief moment of recognition, and then she went right back into her newfound badass mode, but like with Ashley the scenes felt sterile. There was no energy...no connection. The irony was it felt as if both Ashley and Liara had died (not Shepard), and they'd been replaced by unrecognizable fragments of their former selves.



Then there's Garrus. I love that Turian to death, and eventually Shepard seemed able to break through and reconnect with him. But at first, I was honestly surprised at how devoid of emotion the reunion was. There was a great plot-related explanation for this (Garrus had a crappy time on Omega, he became a different person, he was jaded through his failed attempts at leadership.) While the spark of friendship was still there -- and that was more than I could say for Ashley or Liara -- my paragon Shepard had taught Garrus to be a kinder, less impulsive and more understanding being, and all those lessons seemed to have no impact on Garrus' life trajectory. It wasn't until a peaceful resolution to his loyalty mission that I felt things really went "back to normal" between us. Until then -- as of when I embarked on Tali's recruitment mission -- Garrus seemed like a shadow of his former self, too, and an emotional resonance just seemed to be missing.



So back when I'm about to recruit Tali, I'm somewhat devastated over my ME1 squadmates. Liara and Ashley feel like lost causes. Garrus is technically on my team, but he doesn't seem quite himself. I hadn't yet run into Wrex on the Krogan homeworld; at that point I was likely to assume Wrex wasn't appearing in ME2 at all. It just felt very desolate. As if Shepard was all alone in his new Cerberus world with only Joker and the Doctor to remind him of old times.



...And then I heard that sweet little line in Tali's recording.

Finally! Someone appreciated Shepard! Someone *cared* about him! Someone remembered him, and actually wished he was present in her life!

From that moment on, initial impressions of Tali be damned, I made it my mission to woo that Quarian straight to my personal quarters. Absolutely nothing would stop me.



So, yeah; here's hoping we can hear another unexpected recording from Tali before recruiting her in ME3.

[danteshepard]

The_KFD_Case wrote...
Bah! Insecure macho-ism is so contradictory!

I would have used a more romantic metafor. I just can't come up with one yet.

[Himmelstor]

thepyro13 wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

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YAY!!! more fanfic... since i'm a fan i shall aid in shameless promotion

Starting to panic...only one comment...

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

runescapeguy9 wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Oh, and I just realized... an english "billion" is 1.000.000.000, right?
Much easier than trying to earn german ones.

german billion is different than English billion...?

Yes. The english go from million to billion to trillion, right? Germans have "Million", same as the english. Instead of billions, they have "Milliarde", and then, where the english trillion comes in, they have "Billion".

Also, the credit limit in ME1 is 9.999.999, I can confirm this because I'm playing it right now.

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Oh, and I just realized... an english "billion" is 1.000.000.000, right?
Much easier than trying to earn german ones.

Yes, and the phenomenon you are referring to occurs in Danish with the use of the word "billion". A "billion" in Danish would be the equivalent of a "trillion" in English in regards to the word mirroring the English spelled word, IIRC.

We're lucky the english people can't count as far as germans or danish, then. Makes Lazarus for Tali much cheaper.

[MMA7FF]

alickar wrote...

[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:c9ZdAPRpQqyZEM:http://www.quickflashnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/3001.jpg[/img]we will not stand down we will never surrender until tali is in mass 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!

haha itd be funny to see a picture of leonitis screaming THIS IS TALI!!!! while pointing to a confused and embarassed tali in the back ground lol:P

[The_KFD_Case]

runescapeguy9 wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Oh, and I just realized... an english "billion" is 1.000.000.000, right?
Much easier than trying to earn german ones.

german billion is different than English billion...?

I'm guessing that it's similar to Danish where "billiard" which is close to the English "billion" in spelling actually denotes what would be a "trillion" in English. The word that designates a billion in Danish would be "milliard". It appears German operates from a similar point of reference.

[The_KFD_Case]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

runescapeguy9 wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Oh, and I just realized... an english "billion" is 1.000.000.000, right?
Much easier than trying to earn german ones.

german billion is different than English billion...?

Yes. The english go from million to billion to trillion, right? Germans have "Million", same as the english. Instead of billions, they have "Milliarde", and then, where the english trillion comes in, they have "Billion".

Also, the credit limit in ME1 is 9.999.999, I can confirm this because I'm playing it right now.

Bingo. Though there is the google plex. It was the largest figure in English at one point (perhaps it still is). It's usually only used in astro physics to deal with the literally astronomical distances involved.

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

runescapeguy9 wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Oh, and I just realized... an english "billion" is 1.000.000.000, right?
Much easier than trying to earn german ones.

german billion is different than English billion...?

I'm guessing that it's similar to Danish where "billiard" which is close to the English "billion" in spelling actually denotes what would be a "trillion" in English. The word that designates a billion in Danish would be "milliard". It appears German operates from a similar point of reference.

Pretty much the same, even. Million, Milliarde, Billion, Billiarde, Trillion, Trilliarde... not entirely sure what comes after that, but anything that high isn't very important anyways.

[alickar]

[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:xpGxT4vOAfz87M:http://mmanytt.se/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sparta1.jpg[/img]This is Tali Army!!!!!!!

[The_KFD_Case]

danteshepard wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
Bah! Insecure macho-ism is so contradictory!

I would have used a more romantic metafor. I just can't come up with one yet.

Fair enough. Please feel free to revisit this topic should you come up with one. More Tali love and appreciation is welcomed (at least in this thread)!

[Jake71887]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Bingo. Though there is the google plex. It was the largest figure in English at one point (perhaps it still is). It's usually only used in astro physics to deal with the literally astronomical distances involved.

Isn't googolduplex larger? 

[The_KFD_Case]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

runescapeguy9 wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Oh, and I just realized... an english "billion" is 1.000.000.000, right?
Much easier than trying to earn german ones.

german billion is different than English billion...?

I'm guessing that it's similar to Danish where "billiard" which is close to the English "billion" in spelling actually denotes what would be a "trillion" in English. The word that designates a billion in Danish would be "milliard". It appears German operates from a similar point of reference.

Pretty much the same, even. Million, Milliarde, Billion, Billiarde, Trillion, Trilliarde... not entirely sure what comes after that, but anything that high isn't very important anyways.

Well it wasn't for most of us until the Great Recession.....[smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

The Danish and German words appear very similar: Million. Milliard. Billiard. Trillion, etc.

[Himmelstor]

danteshepard wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
Bah! Insecure macho-ism is so contradictory!

I would have used a more romantic metafor. I just can't come up with one yet.

Metafor...?
Oh.
"Metaphor"
*Takes notes*

[MMA7FF]

@kironDrayga



that was quite the speech lol

[The_KFD_Case]

Jake71887 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Bingo. Though there is the google plex. It was the largest figure in English at one point (perhaps it still is). It's usually only used in astro physics to deal with the literally astronomical distances involved.

Isn't googolduplex larger? 

I don't know if that's even a word, but if it is, sure it's possible! New words pop-up frequently.
Not sure two storied condo complexes appear quite as quickly in Florida these days however....

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 22 février 2010 - 10:52 .

[Jake71887]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

I don't know if that's even a word, but if it is, sure it's possible! New words pop-up frequently.

It is, there's another as well that I've forgotten, been a while since school 

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

runescapeguy9 wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Oh, and I just realized... an english "billion" is 1.000.000.000, right?
Much easier than trying to earn german ones.

german billion is different than English billion...?

I'm guessing that it's similar to Danish where "billiard" which is close to the English "billion" in spelling actually denotes what would be a "trillion" in English. The word that designates a billion in Danish would be "milliard". It appears German operates from a similar point of reference.

Pretty much the same, even. Million, Milliarde, Billion, Billiarde, Trillion, Trilliarde... not entirely sure what comes after that, but anything that high isn't very important anyways.

Well it wasn't for most of us until the Great Recession.....[smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

The Danish and German words appear very similar: Million. Milliard. Billiard. Trillion, etc.

German and nordic languages, like danish and swedish, have a few similiarities, at least I could understand a few words of what you were typing a few days ago. Not enough to really understand what you were saying, but at least I could get a remote clue of it.
That said, and to get this back on topic a bit, I just rescued Liara. I had Tali on my team.

[RevanKun123]

danteshepard wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
Bah! Insecure macho-ism is so contradictory!

I would have used a more romantic metafor. I just can't come up with one yet.

“Perhaps the mission of those who love mankind is to make people laugh at the truth, to make truth laugh, because the only truth lies in learning to free ourselves from insane passion for the truth.”

(Umberto Eco quote, Italian Novelist)

[danteshepard]

alickar wrote...

[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:xpGxT4vOAfz87M:http://mmanytt.se/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sparta1.jpg[/img]This is Tali Army!!!!!!!

no.
THIS is the tali army.
[img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/masseffect/images/6/69/Reaper_fleet.png[/img]

[Axnollouse]

Holy crap is this thread getting silly

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

Hmm, I have to be careful now, or I'll accidentally make both Ashley and Liara fall in love with me, which would lead to the catfight situation. And catfight situation means you have to pick one, can't drop both.



Which leads me to my next random question;

Who do you people leave behind on Virmire, Kaidan or Ashley, and for what reasons?