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[Lareit]

Sleepicub09 wrote...

These are one of the many theories I disbelieve 

What is there to disbelieve, they're dextro based. They evolved along a long line of dextro amino acid based organisms. What those organisms look like is built around their evolutionary characteristics based on surviving on Rannoch, not being dextro amino based.

Human's look nothing like cockroaches, but we're both Levo based.

Apperance is evolutionary paths, not protein compound direction.

Modifié par Lareit, 19 mars 2010 - 07:41 .

[pvt fc jenkins]

Lareit wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Lareit wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Lareit wrote...
Chirality doesn't affect apperance in any specific way. 

Not directly, I would imagine not.. But it may affect other amino acids that do, as stated previously....

How they look has to do with their evolution on Rannoch. Not their chirality. Chirality is just what their evolutionary chain started at.

Humans could of easily been reversed chirality and look and act exactly like what we are now.

Basically, the protein strands that eventually evolved into fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds,mammals, quarians had reversed chirality.

How they look is entirely a product of evolution in the way we understand. Natural selection to encourage their ability to survive. Chirality is not something you evolve out of or into.

The monkey's the came before us were Levo, the rats before them, Levo, whatever before rats, etc.

Thats my point.

You must be really tired if you thought that made any sort of logical sense... 

Are you currently on any drugs? Any at all? Maybe sleeping pills?

[Sleepicub09]

[quote]Lareit wrote...

[quote]Sleepicub09 wrote...


[/quote]These are one of the many theories I disbelieve [/quote]

What is there to disbelieve, they're dextro based. They evolved along a long line of dextro amino acid based organisms. What those organisms look like is built around their evolutionary characteristics based on surviving on Rannoch, not being dextro amino based.

Human's look nothing like cockroaches, but we're both Levo based.

Apperance is evolutionary paths, not protein compound direction.

[/quote]its not that part its the evolution part never did makes sense to me why doesn't a boy who swims everyday not grow gills if that the case, but out of all thing scientist say this is the one the makes the least bit of sense they say everything needs evidence yet they base most of their proof off of theories just doesn't make any sense to me ...meh :-/

Modifié par Sleepicub09, 19 mars 2010 - 07:43 .

[Lareit]

Sleepicub09 wrote...

its not that part its the evolution part never did makes sense to me why doesn't a boy who swims everyday not grow gills if that the case, but out of all thing scientist say this is the one the makes the least bit of sense they say everything needs evidence yet they base most of their proof off of theories just doesn't make any sense to me ...meh :-/

Eh, you don't evolve in a single life time. At best you're a mutant, born with some new characteristic that increases your peformance and you spread that mutation as you have children yourself.

Mutations are quite random, and often, not benifical.

I won't say science is perfect, I think it's absurdly flawed. But you eventually have to accept 2+2=4, because there isn't any better way to analyze the world.

[pvt fc jenkins]

Jake71887 wrote...

Lareit wrote...

Humans could of easily been reversed chirality and look and act exactly like what we are now.

Basically, the protein strands that eventually evolved into fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds,mammals, quarians had reversed chirality.

How they look is entirely a product of evolution in the way we understand. Natural selection to encourage their ability to survive. Chirality is not something you evolve out of or into.

The monkey's the came before us were Levo, the rats before them, Levo, whatever before rats, etc.

Thats my point.

Looks are not 100% attributed to natural selection, they are based on genetic factors, and also environmental as well. Chirality and it's effect on other amino acids may very well cause a change in skin tone for all we know. Just as well as their sun being older, and most likely giving off a differing amount of radiation than Sol's may have had an impact on pigments... No way to accurately predict as far as I know

Environment IS part of natural selection

[Sleepicub09]

Lareit wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

its not that part its the evolution part never did makes sense to me why doesn't a boy who swims everyday not grow gills if that the case, but out of all thing scientist say this is the one the makes the least bit of sense they say everything needs evidence yet they base most of their proof off of theories just doesn't make any sense to me ...meh :-/

Eh, you don't evolve in a single life time. At best you're a mutant, born with some new characteristic that increases your peformance and you spread that mutation as you have children yourself.

Mutations are quite random, and often, not benifical.

I won't say science is perfect, I think it's absurdly flawed. But you eventually have to accept 2+2=4, because there isn't any better way to analyze the world.

*Sleepicub09 takes from of big brother*

no 2+2=5

[Jake71887]

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Environment IS part of natural selection

Not necessarily, and especially not with factors such as skin tone.

[pvt fc jenkins]

Lareit wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

its not that part its the evolution part never did makes sense to me why doesn't a boy who swims everyday not grow gills if that the case, but out of all thing scientist say this is the one the makes the least bit of sense they say everything needs evidence yet they base most of their proof off of theories just doesn't make any sense to me ...meh :-/

Eh, you don't evolve in a single life time. At best you're a mutant, born with some new characteristic that increases your peformance and you spread that mutation as you have children yourself.

Mutations are quite random, and often, not benifical.

I won't say science is perfect, I think it's absurdly flawed. But you eventually have to accept 2+2=4, because there isn't any better way to analyze the world.

Wrong again, you see, as a Talimancer, I can make 2 + 2 = TALI! Want to know what 2 + 3 equals in my would? (I'll give you a hint: TALI!)

[Lareit]

pvt fc jenkins wrote...


Environment IS part of natural selection

Thanks.

[pvt fc jenkins]

Jake71887 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Environment IS part of natural selection

Not necessarily, and especially not with factors such as skin tone.

Not true, environment includes vegitation, climate, different seasons, and direct sunlight. Which all effect skin tone (I think)

[Lareit]

Jake71887 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Environment IS part of natural selection

Not necessarily, and especially not with factors such as skin tone.

Yes necessarily.

Natural camoflauge in animals.

Female birds are almost always designed to blend in with their enviroment, so they can exist to protect their young. Male birds are designed to stand out to attract mates and to encourage a survival of the fittist amongst their species to pass along useful traits.

Snow bunnies change their fur color based on the time of year it is.

ALL apperance designed traits exclusively tied to their enviroment.

[pvt fc jenkins]

Lareit wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Environment IS part of natural selection

Not necessarily, and especially not with factors such as skin tone.

Yes necessarily.

Natural camoflauge in animals.

Female birds are almost always designed to blend in with their enviroment, so they can exist to protect their young. Male birds are designed to stand out to attract mates and to encourage a survival of the fittist amongst their species to pass along useful traits.

Snow bunnies change their fur color based on the time of year it is.

ALL apperance designed traits exclusively tied to their enviroment.

I'm on Lareit's side for this one.

[Jake71887]

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Environment IS part of natural selection

Not necessarily, and especially not with factors such as skin tone.

Not true, environment includes vegitation, climate, different seasons, and direct sunlight. Which all effect skin tone (I think)

That it does, but the traits(skintone) you pass down to your offspring is not a form of natural selection per se... White people have lived in tropical areas and remained that white despite the environmental factors, what skin tone you are is based primarily on genetic factors, not environmental.. And as such can not be considered completely a form of natural selection, though I'm sure it does play some part, just not a majority.

Modifié par Jake71887, 19 mars 2010 - 08:00 .

[Jake71887]

Lareit wrote...
Yes necessarily.

Natural camoflauge in animals.

Female birds are almost always designed to blend in with their enviroment, so they can exist to protect their young. Male birds are designed to stand out to attract mates and to encourage a survival of the fittist amongst their species to pass along useful traits.

Snow bunnies change their fur color based on the time of year it is.

ALL apperance designed traits exclusively tied to their enviroment.

You preach instances, not rules... And your narrowmindedness begins to bored me 

[Sleepicub09]

Jake71887 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Environment IS part of natural selection

Not necessarily, and especially not with factors such as skin tone.

Not true, environment includes vegitation, climate, different seasons, and direct sunlight. Which all effect skin tone (I think)

That it does, but the traits(skintone) you pass down to your offspring is not a form of natural selection per se... White people have live in tropical areas and remind that white despite the environmental factors, what skin tone you are is based primarily on genetic factors, not environmental.. And as such can not be considered completely a form of natural selection, though I'm sure it does play some part, just not a majority.

This I'm live in the suburbs I'm brown everyone in my neighborhood is white am I going to turn white aswell

[pvt fc jenkins]

Jake71887 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Environment IS part of natural selection

Not necessarily, and especially not with factors such as skin tone.

Not true, environment includes vegitation, climate, different seasons, and direct sunlight. Which all effect skin tone (I think)

That it does, but the traits(skintone) you pass down to your offspring is not a form of natural selection per se... White people have live in tropical areas and remind that white despite the environmental factors, what skin tone you are is based primarily on genetic factors, not environmental.. And as such can not be considered completely a form of natural selection, though I'm sure it does play some part, just not a majority.

This is true, hadn't thought of that... Honestly I'm rather under-educated on this topic so you'll have to excuse me if I have no idea what "m talking about

[Lareit]

Jake71887 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Environment IS part of natural selection

Not necessarily, and especially not with factors such as skin tone.

Not true, environment includes vegitation, climate, different seasons, and direct sunlight. Which all effect skin tone (I think)

That it does, but the traits(skintone) you pass down to your offspring is not a form of natural selection per se... White people have live in tropical areas and remind that white despite the environmental factors, what skin tone you are is based primarily on genetic factors, not environmental.. And as such can not be considered completely a form of natural selection, though I'm sure it does play some part, just not a majority.

It takes a long damn time to evolve. You can live in the ocean and your children won't have gills and webbed feet either.

your genes are a trait of your evolutionary process.

This is the very reason why quarians aren't pale because they live in suits for a few hundred years.

If they are pale it is because of any number of reasons, but not because they evolved to become plae over 300 years.

[pvt fc jenkins]

On an un-related topic, and at the risk of sounding like a newb: How the hell do I get pictures in my posts?

[Sleepicub09]

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

On an un-related topic, and at the risk of sounding like a newb: How the hell do I get pictures in my posts?

code [ i m g ]  [ i m g ] no spaces

Modifié par Sleepicub09, 19 mars 2010 - 08:04 .

[Archonsg]

Just popping in to say hi!

Wonder if you guys seen this yet?
And yes, it is what you think.

Full size Link

Modifié par Archonsg, 19 mars 2010 - 08:08 .

[Jake71887]

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

On an un-related topic, and at the risk of sounding like a newb: How the hell do I get pictures in my posts?

[pvt fc jenkins]

Sleepicub09 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

On an un-related topic, and at the risk of sounding like a newb: How the hell do I get pictures in my posts?

code [ i m g ]  [ i m g ] no spaces

OK, and how would I get the code if I was to have several pictures laying around in a word doc?

[Sleepicub09]

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

On an un-related topic, and at the risk of sounding like a newb: How the hell do I get pictures in my posts?

code [ i m g ]  [/ i m g ] no spaces

OK, and how would I get the code if I was to have several pictures laying around in a word doc?

that is the code you just put the image url in between that

[pvt fc jenkins]

Sleepicub09 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

pvt fc jenkins wrote...

On an un-related topic, and at the risk of sounding like a newb: How the hell do I get pictures in my posts?

code [ i m g ]  [/ i m g ] no spaces

OK, and how would I get the code if I was to have several pictures laying around in a word doc?

that is the code you just put the image url in between that

I meant the url of the images, I don't think I can get the url of an image I only have saved in a word doc

[pvt fc jenkins]

As my computer is about to run out of power, I'm going to have to go to bed... 'Night all, Keelah Sa'lai