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vykvyper1 wrote...
wolfstanus wrote...
Tali on the NES
being a SNES child myself, I am torn between uncontrollable nostalgic happiness and grinning so wide it hurts... This made my day
Gerudan wrote...
MMA7FF wrote...
and why cant you bring her with both times???
No, I didn't mean it like that and we already established, that I probably wrong.
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KironDrayga wrote...
My first post here and it has to be about Tali.
Let me tell you my story. You see, I'm an interesting sort of Tali fan. I'll confess something: I really didn't care much for her in ME1. She was a fine character -- I liked just about all the ME1 squadmates -- but she didn't stick out. Her traits felt generic and tied to her history as a Quarian, and aside from her unique species it was difficult to ascertain her true personality. I didn't mind the find that you couldn't pursue her as a romantic interest. At that point, she seemed a bit too young to woo, and both Ashley and Liara caught my attention.
But then something fascinating happened during my Mass Effect 2 playthrough. My perspective completely changed. And what's interesting is that I can narrow down the point where I started to find Tali a really attractive LI option to a single moment of throwaway dialogue.
During Tali's mission, you eventually enter what once was her base of operations on the planet she and her Quarian task force had infiltrated. There's a completely optional voicemail of sorts you can listen in on if you investigate the equipment in the area. The recording apparently took place quite some time ago -- maybe when Tali and the rest of the universe thought Shepard was dead, or maybe after she learned he was alive. The details don't really matter, but what I liked was that one of my old ME1 squadmates actually *missed me.* And she brought Shepard up in the course of a dialogue that had nothing whatsoever to do with him. He just entered her thoughts.
...I thought that was profoundly sweet, and quite possibly one of my favorite moments in the game, and even more emotionally uplifting than all the hugs and the makeout sessions and the cute flirtations.
At that point, Ashley, my LI in ME1, had treated me like dirt. It was a perfectly fine plot development and I understood why Bioware turned up the romantic tension by making Ashley and Shepard completely unable to communicate their respective positions. They both messed up, and they both looked like fools, but it didn't change the fact that I felt profoundly saddened by Ashley's betrayal. It sounded as if she had genuinely moved on, and that those two years had led her to develop a life independent of Shepard. I understood her motives. And I still like Ashley plenty as a character. But it left me feeling...lonely. And terrible for my poor Shepard, who really didn't want to join Cerberus in the first place.
Ashley's hostility and lack of interest came somewhat out of left field but Liara's was straight out of the ballpark. In ME1 she was sweet, kind, understanding, thoroughly interested in being friendly (or more) with Shepard. In ME2 she's turned into someone barely recognizable. And like Ashley, she didn't seem much excited by Shepard's presence. There was a brief moment of recognition, and then she went right back into her newfound badass mode, but like with Ashley the scenes felt sterile. There was no energy...no connection. The irony was it felt as if both Ashley and Liara had died (not Shepard), and they'd been replaced by unrecognizable fragments of their former selves.
Then there's Garrus. I love that Turian to death, and eventually Shepard seemed able to break through and reconnect with him. But at first, I was honestly surprised at how devoid of emotion the reunion was. There was a great plot-related explanation for this (Garrus had a crappy time on Omega, he became a different person, he was jaded through his failed attempts at leadership.) While the spark of friendship was still there -- and that was more than I could say for Ashley or Liara -- my paragon Shepard had taught Garrus to be a kinder, less impulsive and more understanding being, and all those lessons seemed to have no impact on Garrus' life trajectory. It wasn't until a peaceful resolution to his loyalty mission that I felt things really went "back to normal" between us. Until then -- as of when I embarked on Tali's recruitment mission -- Garrus seemed like a shadow of his former self, too, and an emotional resonance just seemed to be missing.
So back when I'm about to recruit Tali, I'm somewhat devastated over my ME1 squadmates. Liara and Ashley feel like lost causes. Garrus is technically on my team, but he doesn't seem quite himself. I hadn't yet run into Wrex on the Krogan homeworld; at that point I was likely to assume Wrex wasn't appearing in ME2 at all. It just felt very desolate. As if Shepard was all alone in his new Cerberus world with only Joker and the Doctor to remind him of old times.
...And then I heard that sweet little line in Tali's recording.
Finally! Someone appreciated Shepard! Someone *cared* about him! Someone remembered him, and actually wished he was present in her life!
From that moment on, initial impressions of Tali be damned, I made it my mission to woo that Quarian straight to my personal quarters. Absolutely nothing would stop me.
So, yeah; here's hoping we can hear another unexpected recording from Tali before recruiting her in ME3.
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...I'm in charge of recruiting.alickar wrote...
the tali army grows even more anyone who did not look at how big army is look here watch
Guest_DrathanGervaise_*
Sorry, but I work Freelance.MarineBorn wrote...
...I'm in charge of recruiting.alickar wrote...
the tali army grows even more anyone who did not look at how big army is look here watch
go here to be a part of Talis army.
MMA7FF wrote...
lol ok you had me confuzelled
i didnt even kno she could save you so at what part and how?
DrathanGervaise wrote...
Sorry, but I work Freelance.MarineBorn wrote...
...I'm in charge of recruiting.alickar wrote...
the tali army grows even more anyone who did not look at how big army is look here watch
go here to be a part of Talis army.
It's where all the credits are after all.
Guest_DrathanGervaise_*
Being a Paragon Mercenary is fun. Nothing better than a little bit of hypocrisy to spice up your life.wolfstanus wrote...
DrathanGervaise wrote...
Sorry, but I work Freelance.MarineBorn wrote...
...I'm in charge of recruiting.alickar wrote...
the tali army grows even more anyone who did not look at how big army is look here watch
go here to be a part of Talis army.
It's where all the credits are after all.
ok Conrad
Guest_DrathanGervaise_*
Jeepers Creepers, where'd ya get those peepers?IRoNM4yN3 138 wrote...
creepers
Gerudan wrote...
MMA7FF wrote...
lol ok you had me confuzelled
i didnt even kno she could save you so at what part and how?
When Shepard jumps at the Normandy, one of your teammates pull you in...well, or you die, when they are all dead.
Modifié par wolfstanus, 23 février 2010 - 01:22 .
Guest_MarineBorn_*
KironDrayga wrote...
My first post here and it has to be about Tali.
Let me tell you my story. You see, I'm an interesting sort of Tali fan. I'll confess something: I really didn't care much for her in ME1. She was a fine character -- I liked just about all the ME1 squadmates -- but she didn't stick out. Her traits felt generic and tied to her history as a Quarian, and aside from her unique species it was difficult to ascertain her true personality. I didn't mind the find that you couldn't pursue her as a romantic interest. At that point, she seemed a bit too young to woo, and both Ashley and Liara caught my attention.
But then something fascinating happened during my Mass Effect 2 playthrough. My perspective completely changed. And what's interesting is that I can narrow down the point where I started to find Tali a really attractive LI option to a single moment of throwaway dialogue.
During Tali's mission, you eventually enter what once was her base of operations on the planet she and her Quarian task force had infiltrated. There's a completely optional voicemail of sorts you can listen in on if you investigate the equipment in the area. The recording apparently took place quite some time ago -- maybe when Tali and the rest of the universe thought Shepard was dead, or maybe after she learned he was alive. The details don't really matter, but what I liked was that one of my old ME1 squadmates actually *missed me.* And she brought Shepard up in the course of a dialogue that had nothing whatsoever to do with him. He just entered her thoughts.
...I thought that was profoundly sweet, and quite possibly one of my favorite moments in the game, and even more emotionally uplifting than all the hugs and the makeout sessions and the cute flirtations.
At that point, Ashley, my LI in ME1, had treated me like dirt. It was a perfectly fine plot development and I understood why Bioware turned up the romantic tension by making Ashley and Shepard completely unable to communicate their respective positions. They both messed up, and they both looked like fools, but it didn't change the fact that I felt profoundly saddened by Ashley's betrayal. It sounded as if she had genuinely moved on, and that those two years had led her to develop a life independent of Shepard. I understood her motives. And I still like Ashley plenty as a character. But it left me feeling...lonely. And terrible for my poor Shepard, who really didn't want to join Cerberus in the first place.
Ashley's hostility and lack of interest came somewhat out of left field but Liara's was straight out of the ballpark. In ME1 she was sweet, kind, understanding, thoroughly interested in being friendly (or more) with Shepard. In ME2 she's turned into someone barely recognizable. And like Ashley, she didn't seem much excited by Shepard's presence. There was a brief moment of recognition, and then she went right back into her newfound badass mode, but like with Ashley the scenes felt sterile. There was no energy...no connection. The irony was it felt as if both Ashley and Liara had died (not Shepard), and they'd been replaced by unrecognizable fragments of their former selves.
Then there's Garrus. I love that Turian to death, and eventually Shepard seemed able to break through and reconnect with him. But at first, I was honestly surprised at how devoid of emotion the reunion was. There was a great plot-related explanation for this (Garrus had a crappy time on Omega, he became a different person, he was jaded through his failed attempts at leadership.) While the spark of friendship was still there -- and that was more than I could say for Ashley or Liara -- my paragon Shepard had taught Garrus to be a kinder, less impulsive and more understanding being, and all those lessons seemed to have no impact on Garrus' life trajectory. It wasn't until a peaceful resolution to his loyalty mission that I felt things really went "back to normal" between us. Until then -- as of when I embarked on Tali's recruitment mission -- Garrus seemed like a shadow of his former self, too, and an emotional resonance just seemed to be missing.
So back when I'm about to recruit Tali, I'm somewhat devastated over my ME1 squadmates. Liara and Ashley feel like lost causes. Garrus is technically on my team, but he doesn't seem quite himself. I hadn't yet run into Wrex on the Krogan homeworld; at that point I was likely to assume Wrex wasn't appearing in ME2 at all. It just felt very desolate. As if Shepard was all alone in his new Cerberus world with only Joker and the Doctor to remind him of old times.
...And then I heard that sweet little line in Tali's recording.
Finally! Someone appreciated Shepard! Someone *cared* about him! Someone remembered him, and actually wished he was present in her life!
From that moment on, initial impressions of Tali be damned, I made it my mission to woo that Quarian straight to my personal quarters. Absolutely nothing would stop me.
So, yeah; here's hoping we can hear another unexpected recording from Tali before recruiting her in ME3.
MarineBorn wrote...
best class to do Insanity...Sentinal?....
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Guest_antilles333_*
MarineBorn wrote...
....anyone else think that TIM is mirandas....suger daddy....i mean shes hot and he did save her...
pervJake71887 wrote...
MarineBorn wrote...
....anyone else think that TIM is mirandas....suger daddy....i mean shes hot and he did save her...
Of course I am
what makes you think that she is his daughter?alickar wrote...
uh Miranda is Tims daughter
Modifié par herbie dog, 23 février 2010 - 01:27 .
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