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[Himmelstor]

danteshepard wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Doc! need your opinion! Feeling unusually selfish regarding tali's trial, considering allowing her to be exiled. Don't want to share her loyalty with the fleet. Also good for work regaurding renegade shepard/ tali fic. shepard possessed minor dominate ability, subtly manipulates tali to be more indulgent in her desires, thoughts?

"Dominate?" How? Is asari?
Humans have no ability to link nervous systems....
And fell selfish all wanted. Guarentees loyalty. And complies with wishes, even if no farther.
Shouldn't have, but what done, done.

haven't done it yet. still conflicted. feels like betrayal

theory on aquisiion of Dominate bonus power is subtle use of biotics in speech. subliminial messages. similar to indoctrination. not near as severe or damaging of course, won't risk Tali's mental health...

Is not function of biotic ability. Biotics manipulation of material, not mind. Asari trait combines both. Human control would require control chip for Tali.
And if do that...will send Thane and Zaeed to kill. Both owe favors.

not my intent in the slightest, Tali actually resists lure at first is able to tell he is effecting her somehow. but can't fully fight it, seed of doubt already planted begins to feel anger, resentment towards fleet for situation. before romance finishes foresakes them completely.
also excellent point doctor on biotics, if you have alternative I would love to hear it.

...perhaps cybernetics? Have not had much chance to study. Could be able to use in concert with normal manipulation abilities due to biotics and persuasion to interact and override, minimally, cybernetics in quarian system. Is only theory. Dmitri doesn't want me to study cybernetic implants...

[Phil725]

danteshepard wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Doc! need your opinion! Feeling unusually selfish regarding tali's trial, considering allowing her to be exiled. Don't want to share her loyalty with the fleet. Also good for work regaurding renegade shepard/ tali fic. shepard possessed minor dominate ability, subtly manipulates tali to be more indulgent in her desires, thoughts?

Just curious, what do you see Tali's desires being?  I thought the well being of her people was all that ever really mattered to her.  I don't see getting exiled necesarily changing that either. 

I can't see her being happy just hanging around with Shepard.  If she isn't helping the quarians, what else is there for her to do?

hmm can only think of one example. desire for shepard. much internal confliction. doesn't want to risk mission. renegade tali foresakes this veiw, difficult to put into words out of exact context. also a difficult line to walk, staying in character but at the same time branching to unexplored darker nature. if you have ideas I'm welcome to them.

Sorry, no ideas, was curious to see if you had any, because Tali in general is characterized by her selflessness.  I feel like if right after she was exiled, if she could sacrifice herself to get the quarians back on their homeworld, she would do it.  I can't see how you can have her turn her back on the quarians without drastically changing her character.

Only way I can see making Tali more renegade is to just make her more renegade in her pursuit of reclaiming the homeworld for the quarians.  Just seems to end up like Admiral Xen though, so who knows.

[cannedcream]

Sleepicub09 wrote...

**** WITH TALI AND KASUMI WILL SHOOT YOU
*Kasumi*

So pissed with BioWare about Kasumi.
Totally took the character I made up in my head (future hoodie included), gave it boobs, and shoved it into the game.
Didn't even ask me to voice act her or anything. Stupid man-penis. . .

[BigKahuna25]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...
Then he should use Mass Effect fields, they explain everything!!!

but.... thats what biotics ARE!

[gkillerrin]

Himmelstor wrote...

gkillerrin wrote...

Doc you dont know what I went through while you were gone, i went thruogh a high speed survival chase trying to survive from certain death (stupid harbringer controlling my body), and I also became the first Biotic Quarian :innocent::innocent::happy:

............................................
Too risky.
*backs away slowly*

also, umm how do i put it, umm the Reapers now have 10 trillion more ships:blink:

[gkillerrin]

Himmelstor wrote...

gkillerrin wrote...

Doc you dont know what I went through while you were gone, i went thruogh a high speed survival chase trying to survive from certain death (stupid harbringer controlling my body), and I also became the first Biotic Quarian :innocent::innocent::happy:

............................................
Too risky.
*backs away slowly*

also, umm how do i put it, umm the Reapers now have 10 trillion more ships:blink:

[Ellipsisman]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

getting off for real now, thread this time of night isnt worth geting on
Keelah Se'lai

Keelah Se'lai

[Commander Marrek S]

[videowiz186]

Ellipsisman wrote...
Keelah se'lai folks... try to keep it at least close to Tali... if not centered on...

Keelah Se'lai, my friend!

[TheCynicalReaper]

Phil725 wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

gkillerrin wrote...

Hey has Anyone Seen Doc around, he's usually here by now ../../../images/forum/emoticons/blushing.png../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png../../../images/forum/emoticons/unsure.png

HIMMELSTOR COME OUT COME OUT WHERE EVER YOU ARE, WHERE ARE YOU 

Speak of the Doctor, and he appears...
*Shoots Ashley clone*
The Doctor is In. What?

Doc! need your opinion! Feeling unusually selfish regarding tali's trial, considering allowing her to be exiled. Don't want to share her loyalty with the fleet. Also good for work regaurding renegade shepard/ tali fic. shepard possessed minor dominate ability, subtly manipulates tali to be more indulgent in her desires, thoughts?

Just curious, what do you see Tali's desires being?  I thought the well being of her people was all that ever really mattered to her.  I don't see getting exiled necesarily changing that either. 

I can't see her being happy just hanging around with Shepard.  If she isn't helping the quarians, what else is there for her to do?

I'm positive that the exile was just a consequence, like dieing in the end. No matter what, Tali is first for her people, though Shepard is a hell of a close second.

-Also, mind telling me how you got that signature to work? As you can see, mine is...problematic. lol

[Himmelstor]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

getting off for real now, thread this time of night isnt worth geting on
Keelah Se'lai

Keelah Se'lai, my old friend!

[BigKahuna25]

cannedcream wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

**** WITH TALI AND KASUMI WILL SHOOT YOU
*Kasumi*

So pissed with BioWare about Kasumi.
Totally took the character I made up in my head (future hoodie included), gave it boobs, and shoved it into the game.
Didn't even ask me to voice act her or anything. Stupid man-penis. . .

you don't like man penis? what a shame.

[Azint]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

See what I mean?

You're just jelous of all the chicks I've got.

[Geth Knight]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Doc! need your opinion! Feeling unusually selfish regarding tali's trial, considering allowing her to be exiled. Don't want to share her loyalty with the fleet. Also good for work regaurding renegade shepard/ tali fic. shepard possessed minor dominate ability, subtly manipulates tali to be more indulgent in her desires, thoughts?

"Dominate?" How? Is asari?
Humans have no ability to link nervous systems....
And fell selfish all wanted. Guarentees loyalty. And complies with wishes, even if no farther.
Shouldn't have, but what done, done.

haven't done it yet. still conflicted. feels like betrayal

theory on aquisiion of Dominate bonus power is subtle use of biotics in speech. subliminial messages. similar to indoctrination. not near as severe or damaging of course, won't risk Tali's mental health...

Is not function of biotic ability. Biotics manipulation of material, not mind. Asari trait combines both. Human control would require control chip for Tali.
And if do that...will send Thane and Zaeed to kill. Both owe favors.

not my intent in the slightest, Tali actually resists lure at first is able to tell he is effecting her somehow. but can't fully fight it, seed of doubt already planted begins to feel anger, resentment towards fleet for situation. before romance finishes foresakes them completely.
also excellent point doctor on biotics, if you have alternative I would love to hear it.

Mass Effect fields they are the ME universes "the Force"!

God its like listening to two salarians talk.

[BigKahuna25]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

BigKahuna25 wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...
Then he should use Mass Effect fields, they explain everything!!!

but.... thats what biotics ARE!

Dark Energy then?

same thing!!! why dont people know that mass effect fields are from dark energy!

[cannedcream]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

getting off for real now, thread this time of night isnt worth geting on
Keelah Se'lai

But. . .but I'm here, and I'm amazing.

No hard feelings.
Keelah se'lai. 

[Phil725]

TheCynicalReaper wrote...
*snip*

-Also, mind telling me how you got that signature to work? As you can see, mine is...problematic. lol

Delete the quotation marks.

[ControlFreak12]

I am going to bed, all! Keelah Se'lai and read my blogs.

[vykvyper1]

found the video of what happens if you're stupid/evil/soulless/foul/cruel/heartless enough to reject Tali...



don't watch it... it's too sad...

*balls up in the corner and starts crying*

[Shazzammer2]

BigKahuna25 wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

**** WITH TALI AND KASUMI WILL SHOOT YOU
*Kasumi*

So pissed with BioWare about Kasumi.
Totally took the character I made up in my head (future hoodie included), gave it boobs, and shoved it into the game.
Didn't even ask me to voice act her or anything. Stupid man-penis. . .

you don't like man penis? what a shame.

sell it to science! or the bllack market! it fetch's a mighty high price.