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[GeeMunkey]

Phil725 wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

BigKahuna25 wrote...
i hate those damn space elves. but like i said, to each his own my yell was more directed at the fact that the picture was enormous and destroyed the forum but if you want to flame me for also expressing my opinion of it go ahead.

I concur. But saying someone's hard work looks like a "drowned zombie" when others find it aesthetically appealing could be taken offensively, like I did. So far all the art concerning Tali's face has never been accepted by a majority of Talifans, so I'm convinced that the only way to please the most people is to not reveal her face at all

So it's 3 choices, Space Elf Tali, Average-Looking Tali, or no Tali.

I've made the point before that when drawing Tali, you can either leave the mask on, and have everyone love it no matter how good it is, or reveal her face, and have it scrutinized to hell and back with people hating it for no good reason no matter how good it is.  Artist's choice.

That said, I can't see it being like that when Bioware reveals her face in ME3.  Sure some people (the people that want her to be super model gorgeous and the people that want her to be so alien that you can't relate her to a human for example,) will be disappointed.  But those are the extremes, most people will simply accept Tali no matter what she looks like.  There's a difference between arguing over speculative faces, and being content with what we're given in ME3.

Honestly, I'd be fine with Liz Sroka modeling her face, since she gives a stellar performance as Tali's voice.  If Chuck fans are going crazy over Miranda, then why not give die hard ME1 Tali fans the same thing?

[knight5923]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

knight5923 wrote...

DrathanGervaise wrote...

knight5923 wrote...

allo all;)

*snip*
Ya, I know ..... I posted it again:blush:

Add some color my good man!

Nah, too lazy lol
took 5 hours to draw, I'm not gonna screw around with colour after that;)

Then take a nap, get some Mnt Dew, and get crackin'!

I don't care for naps, Mnt Dew or .......... crackin:blink:

[Geth Knight]

GeeMunkey wrote...

Honestly, I'd be fine with Liz Sroka modeling her face, since she gives a stellar performance as Tali's voice.  If Chuck fans are going crazy over Miranda, then why not give die hard ME1 Tali fans the same thing?

Because that would be fair.

[Flaargman117]

GeeMunkey wrote...


Honestly, I'd be fine with Liz Sroka modeling her face, since she gives a stellar performance as Tali's voice.  If Chuck fans are going crazy over Miranda, then why not give die hard ME1 Tali fans the same thing?

I agree. Liz Sroka needs to model Tali's face, afterall it's only fair, she is best VA IMO. I would imagine that this would go down well with the fans as well as I've heard people throwing around the idea for a while now.

[sergio71785]

 I really don't think they'll model Tali's face after Liz's.

Oh sure, I can imagine them looking at pics of her face for inspiration and reference and all that good stuff, but I seriously doubt they'll just downright 3D model her face and call it a day.

Miranda's really the only one who got that treatment (though many characters do bare a resemblance to their VAs) 

[BigKahuna25]

knight5923 wrote...
I don't care for naps, Mnt Dew or .......... crackin:blink:

a siesta, dr pepper and.... cookin'?

[Flaargman117]

knight5923 wrote...

DrathanGervaise wrote...

knight5923 wrote...

DrathanGervaise wrote...

knight5923 wrote...

allo all;)

*snip*
Ya, I know ..... I posted it again:blush:

Add some color my good man!

Nah, too lazy lol
took 5 hours to draw, I'm not gonna screw around with colour after that;)

Then take a nap, get some Mnt Dew, and get crackin'!

I don't care for naps, Mnt Dew or .......... crackin:blink:

You don't like naps?!?!?

[knight5923]

Flaargman117 wrote...

knight5923 wrote...
I don't care for naps, Mnt Dew or .......... crackin:blink:

You don't like naps?!?!?

Nah, I always wake up feeling worse than when I went to sleep:unsure:

[BigKahuna25]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

BigKahuna25 wrote...

knight5923 wrote...
I don't care for naps, Mnt Dew or .......... crackin:blink:

a siesta, dr pepper and.... cookin'?

a power break, Coca Cola and.... Discovery Channel?

gotta love that channel

[Flaargman117]

sergio71785 wrote...

 I really don't think they'll model Tali's face after Liz's.

Oh sure, I can imagine them looking at pics of her face for inspiration and reference and all that good stuff, but I seriously doubt they'll just downright 3D model her face and call it a day.

Miranda's really the only one who got that treatment (though many characters do bare a resemblance to their VAs) 

This would make more sense I suppose, it would probably be easier (and cheaper I imagine).

Although most of the time I just think it would be easier if they didn't reveal her face. I doubt that they will to be honest. Oh well, maybe, maybe not. We'll just have to wait and see.

[Phil725]

sergio71785 wrote...

 I really don't think they'll model Tali's face after Liz's.

Oh sure, I can imagine them looking at pics of her face for inspiration and reference and all that good stuff, but I seriously doubt they'll just downright 3D model her face and call it a day.

Miranda's really the only one who got that treatment (though many characters do bare a resemblance to their VAs) 

I agree that they won't model Tali's face after Liz.  That said, I do expect Tali to pretty much have a human face, and we'll probably be able to connect a facial feature or two between them, whether it was intentional or not.

[Flaargman117]

knight5923 wrote...

Flaargman117 wrote...

knight5923 wrote...
I don't care for naps, Mnt Dew or .......... crackin:blink:

You don't like naps?!?!?

Nah, I always wake up feeling worse than when I went to sleep:unsure:

Actually this happens to me sometimes.
I'll wake up from a nap feeling really tired and my eyes will hurt for no reason.
But when I get a good nap, it sure is good.

[knight5923]

sergio71785 wrote...

 I really don't think they'll model Tali's face after Liz's.

Oh sure, I can imagine them looking at pics of her face for inspiration and reference and all that good stuff, but I seriously doubt they'll just downright 3D model her face and call it a day.

Miranda's really the only one who got that treatment (though many characters do bare a resemblance to their VAs) 

Even if they did, I doubt they'd just leave it as is like they did with Miranda. They'd likely alien it up a bit before stickin it in the helmet. Tho, to be fair, I'd been in regardless:wub:

[Phil725]

Flaargman117 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

 I really don't think they'll model Tali's face after Liz's.

Oh sure, I can imagine them looking at pics of her face for inspiration and reference and all that good stuff, but I seriously doubt they'll just downright 3D model her face and call it a day.

Miranda's really the only one who got that treatment (though many characters do bare a resemblance to their VAs) 

This would make more sense I suppose, it would probably be easier (and cheaper I imagine).

Although most of the time I just think it would be easier if they didn't reveal her face. I doubt that they will to be honest. Oh well, maybe, maybe not. We'll just have to wait and see.

I still don't see how its easier to not reveal her face.  They already have the concept drawn up, and they did before ME2.  It's no work at all to implement it into ME3.  The only thing leaving her masked for ME3 will do is create a large complaint going forward.  Not smart at all for a company like Bioware that has a huge following of loyal fans that will buy anything with the Bioware label. 

As long as they make Tali normal looking, the vast majority leaves happy.  I put the percentage of seeing her face at 95% earlier, I really don't see a situation where we don't see it.

[sergio71785]

I'm really not worried about her face, personally. I don't have an image of her face imagined.

I know two things: she has human features, and Bioware will try and make her attractive. That's good enough for me. Even if I don't feel blown away when I see her face, I know within like 10 mins I'll be in love with it. It's just how the mind works when you have an emotional attachment to something.

Modifié par sergio71785, 20 mars 2010 - 08:21 .

[BigKahuna25]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

Flaargman117 wrote...

knight5923 wrote...

Flaargman117 wrote...

knight5923 wrote...
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wait.... what? since when is garrus an advocate of proper hydration?

[Goat_Shepard]

GeeMunkey wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

I've made the point before that when drawing Tali, you can either leave the mask on, and have everyone love it no matter how good it is, or reveal her face, and have it scrutinized to hell and back with people hating it for no good reason no matter how good it is.  Artist's choice.

That said, I can't see it being like that when Bioware reveals her face in ME3.  Sure some people (the people that want her to be super model gorgeous and the people that want her to be so alien that you can't relate her to a human for example,) will be disappointed.  But those are the extremes, most people will simply accept Tali no matter what she looks like.  There's a difference between arguing over speculative faces, and being content with what we're given in ME3.

Honestly, I'd be fine with Liz Sroka modeling her face, since she gives a stellar performance as Tali's voice.  If Chuck fans are going crazy over Miranda, then why not give die hard ME1 Tali fans the same thing?

It will likely be a grey area in between the extremes you described, hopefully they do at least give her Liz Sroka's eyes, and especially her smile

[Phil725]

sergio71785 wrote...

I'm really not worried about her face, personally. I don't have an image of her face imagined.

I know two things: she has human features, and Bioware will try and make her attractive. That's good enough for me. Even if I don't feel blown away when I see her face, I know within like 10 mins I'll be in love with it. It's just how the mind works when you have an emotional attachment to something.

I agree.  I really think the only way people will get disappointed is if they get really attached to one specific concept.  Go in with an open mind hoping for any face that compliments the rest of her and you'll come out happy

[Goat_Shepard]

knight5923 wrote...
Even if they did, I doubt they'd just leave it as is like they did with Miranda. They'd likely alien it up a bit before stickin it in the helmet. Tho, to be fair, I'd been in regardless

Quoted For Truth.

[sergio71785]