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[Phil725]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...
I do kind of get the feeling that Tali's dad was the worst admiral, and the quarians are better off with the new guy, whoever it is.  It seems like he combines Garrel's intentions of getting the quarians killed in a war, with Xen's insane tests and ruthlessness.  I feel sorry for Tali losing her father, but I think the quarians will benefit in the end.

As for quarians in general dying.  I didn't care when Prazza died, he brought that on himself.  I like quarians, but I don't care about stupidity, no matter what race.

Prazza kinda got what was coming to him, but it bothers me that he dragged some people down with him.  Like that one that gets stepped on by the mech.  That was rough.

They made the same exact choice Prazza made, they chose to follow a random idiot instead of the person in charge of the expedition (Tali.)  The fact that we don't see them acting stupidly doesn't mean they were innocent victims.  I will agree that the way they went out was kind of brutal, but they were special forces or whatever, they knew the risks of any mission.

[Flaargman117]

sergio71785 wrote...

 I don't think Xen is evil, she's just... a little too ambitious. Too willing to play with fire. 

I mean yeah, if the Quarians managed to get the Geth under their control, they'd basically become a galactic super power overnight, so I can see how it's tempting, but it's just too dangerous if you ask me.

I agree with this. Xen wants to play with fire. And as the saying goes, you play with fire and you're going to get burnt. The quarians already made this mistake once, and it cost them their homeworld, what's stopping the geth from rebelling again? If they rebel a second time it could be the extinction of the entire quarian race. It's too much of a risk, IMO.

[UFOash]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
 I don't think Xen is evil, she's just... a little too ambitious. Too willing to play with fire. 

I mean yeah, if the Quarians managed to get the Geth under their control, they'd basically become a galactic super power overnight, so I can see how it's tempting, but it's just too dangerous if you ask me.

Enslaving an entire sentient race isn't evil?  Where do you draw the line?

Enslaving?
Is having a pet dog slavery?
Besides, they created the the Geth, the Geth owe them

[danteshepard]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
 I don't think Xen is evil, she's just... a little too ambitious. Too willing to play with fire. 

I mean yeah, if the Quarians managed to get the Geth under their control, they'd basically become a galactic super power overnight, so I can see how it's tempting, but it's just too dangerous if you ask me.

Enslaving an entire sentient race isn't evil?  Where do you draw the line?

beyond that the risk she is taking far outweighs the reward factor. She'd be damning the entire quarian people all over again and in the exact same way. "history repeats itself until the lesson is learned" that lesson is. DON'T F*CK WITH AI's.

[Alphyn]

Phil725 wrote...

The problem with picking Tali in that poll is that she kind of has to be the cleanest.  Her suit keeps her freshly bathed at all times.  It makes a bubble bath obsolete sadly, but there I can't argue with having a fresh out of the shower Tali at all times

Can't you just say that it's a fetish or something?

Shepard: Tali..?
Tali: Yes, Shepard?
Shepard: Would... you like to have a... shower with me?
Tali: Um... why?
Shepard: Well, y'know. I need a clean, you need a clean. So, why not?
Tali: But my suit always keeps me-
Shepard: Clean? I know.
Tali: ...

[Phil725]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
 I don't think Xen is evil, she's just... a little too ambitious. Too willing to play with fire. 

I mean yeah, if the Quarians managed to get the Geth under their control, they'd basically become a galactic super power overnight, so I can see how it's tempting, but it's just too dangerous if you ask me.

Enslaving an entire sentient race isn't evil?  Where do you draw the line?

I believe the reason I've seen thrown around is they don't bleed so they don't have souls, so its okay to enslave them

Then again, we don't really need another argument on the geth, so nevermind :innocent:

[Azint]

Alphyn wrote...

Can't you just say that it's a fetish or something?

Shepard: Tali..?
Tali: Yes, Shepard?
Shepard: Would... you like to have a... shower with me?
Tali: Um... why?
Shepard: Well, y'know. I need a clean, you need a clean. So, why not?
Tali: But my suit always keeps me-
Shepard: Clean? I know.
Tali: ...

Go on....

[Strawberry Kiwi]

gkillerrin wrote...

rayremy wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

for the sake of knowledge and great justice I must see this so I don't have to do it myself.

I could only find the one with Femshep but it has the same effect.

www.youtube.com/watch

noo, Nooo, NOOO, I have to be strong *Sniff**Snif*
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chool77 wrote...

Modifié par Strawberry Kiwi, 25 mars 2010 - 09:38 .

[Alphyn]

I really need a girl to... try this stuff on.

[sergio71785]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
 I don't think Xen is evil, she's just... a little too ambitious. Too willing to play with fire. 

I mean yeah, if the Quarians managed to get the Geth under their control, they'd basically become a galactic super power overnight, so I can see how it's tempting, but it's just too dangerous if you ask me.

Enslaving an entire sentient race isn't evil?  Where do you draw the line?

I'll just always see the Geth more as machines than life forms. Yeah, they're sapient, but the way I see it, without the ability to have emotions or feelings, that sentience is wasted. 

But I really don't want to get into that... the whole thing's been discussed to hell and back. 

[NuclearBuddha]

UFOash wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
 I don't think Xen is evil, she's just... a little too ambitious. Too willing to play with fire. 

I mean yeah, if the Quarians managed to get the Geth under their control, they'd basically become a galactic super power overnight, so I can see how it's tempting, but it's just too dangerous if you ask me.

Enslaving an entire sentient race isn't evil?  Where do you draw the line?

Enslaving?
Is having a pet dog slavery?
Besides, they created the the Geth, the Geth owe them

Pet dogs don't plan to build a dyson sphere and live in peaceful separation.

[NuclearBuddha]

sergio71785 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
Enslaving an entire sentient race isn't evil?  Where do you draw the line?

I'll just always see the Geth more as machines than life forms. Yeah, they're sapient, but the way I see it, without the ability to have emotions or feelings, that sentience is wasted. 

But I really don't want to get into that... the whole thing's been discussed to hell and back. 

That's okay, man.  I understand the difference in viewpoint.  It's not something either of us is going to be convinced on.

[rayremy]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

UFOash wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
 I don't think Xen is evil, she's just... a little too ambitious. Too willing to play with fire. 

I mean yeah, if the Quarians managed to get the Geth under their control, they'd basically become a galactic super power overnight, so I can see how it's tempting, but it's just too dangerous if you ask me.

Enslaving an entire sentient race isn't evil?  Where do you draw the line?

Enslaving?
Is having a pet dog slavery?
Besides, they created the the Geth, the Geth owe them

Pet dogs don't plan to build a dyson sphere and live in peaceful separation.

Thats what they want you to think.

[Geth Knight]

Phil725 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
 I don't think Xen is evil, she's just... a little too ambitious. Too willing to play with fire. 

I mean yeah, if the Quarians managed to get the Geth under their control, they'd basically become a galactic super power overnight, so I can see how it's tempting, but it's just too dangerous if you ask me.

Enslaving an entire sentient race isn't evil?  Where do you draw the line?

I believe the reason I've seen thrown around is they don't bleed so they don't have souls, so its okay to enslave them

Then again, we don't really need another argument on the geth, so nevermind :innocent:

Exactly. Because trying to keep them undercontrol worked soooooooooo well last time

[gkillerrin]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

UFOash wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
 I don't think Xen is evil, she's just... a little too ambitious. Too willing to play with fire. 

I mean yeah, if the Quarians managed to get the Geth under their control, they'd basically become a galactic super power overnight, so I can see how it's tempting, but it's just too dangerous if you ask me.

Enslaving an entire sentient race isn't evil?  Where do you draw the line?

Enslaving?
Is having a pet dog slavery?
Besides, they created the the Geth, the Geth owe them

Pet dogs don't plan to build a dyson sphere and live in peaceful separation.

Yes they do... You just dont know it yet

[Gust4v]

vykvyper1 wrote...

Anyone know how long is left for that poll?

3 hours.

[UFOash]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

UFOash wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
 I don't think Xen is evil, she's just... a little too ambitious. Too willing to play with fire. 

I mean yeah, if the Quarians managed to get the Geth under their control, they'd basically become a galactic super power overnight, so I can see how it's tempting, but it's just too dangerous if you ask me.

Enslaving an entire sentient race isn't evil?  Where do you draw the line?

Enslaving?
Is having a pet dog slavery?
Besides, they created the the Geth, the Geth owe them

Pet dogs don't plan to build a dyson sphere and live in peaceful separation.

They will...just wait

[Azint]

sergio71785 wrote...

I'll just always see the Geth more as machines than life forms. Yeah, they're sapient, but the way I see it, without the ability to have emotions or feelings, that sentience is wasted. 

But I really don't want to get into that... the whole thing's been discussed to hell and back. 

Must resist.... urge to debate...

[Phil725]

danteshepard wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
 I don't think Xen is evil, she's just... a little too ambitious. Too willing to play with fire. 

I mean yeah, if the Quarians managed to get the Geth under their control, they'd basically become a galactic super power overnight, so I can see how it's tempting, but it's just too dangerous if you ask me.

Enslaving an entire sentient race isn't evil?  Where do you draw the line?

beyond that the risk she is taking far outweighs the reward factor. She'd be damning the entire quarian people all over again and in the exact same way. "history repeats itself until the lesson is learned" that lesson is. DON'T F*CK WITH AI's.

Agreed, its a huge risk of a power trip.  They can live just fine without the geth, and the geth could level the quarians easily if they were forced into war.  Morality aside, the benefit isn't worth the risks.

And it isn't really damning them in the same way though, before they managed to escape to keep their race alive, war in their situation now leaves them extinct.

[danteshepard]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

UFOash wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
 I don't think Xen is evil, she's just... a little too ambitious. Too willing to play with fire. 

I mean yeah, if the Quarians managed to get the Geth under their control, they'd basically become a galactic super power overnight, so I can see how it's tempting, but it's just too dangerous if you ask me.

Enslaving an entire sentient race isn't evil?  Where do you draw the line?

Enslaving?
Is having a pet dog slavery?
Besides, they created the the Geth, the Geth owe them

Pet dogs don't plan to build a dyson sphere and live in peaceful separation.

A pet dog doesn't have the same mental capacity as you either. (where's KFD when you need him?)

[Karbon4]

I support Tali for ME 3. Fully recruitable and part of the crew again!

It'd be nice to see the romances from ME 2 carry over to ME 3 as well.

[Bloodhuman1]

Azint wrote...

Alphyn wrote...

Can't you just say that it's a fetish or something?

Shepard: Tali..?
Tali: Yes, Shepard?
Shepard: Would... you like to have a... shower with me?
Tali: Um... why?
Shepard: Well, y'know. I need a clean, you need a clean. So, why not?
Tali: But my suit always keeps me-
Shepard: Clean? I know.
Tali: ...

Go on....