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[Himmelstor]

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

DrakeforBake wrote...

rayremy wrote...

But I like Tali, just stating the obvious, when a group is isolated for long periods of time, they tend to be xenophobic and frightened by outside influences.

Possibly but the whole pilgrimage thing goes against that. If they're so xenophobic of the rest of the Galaxy why do they force their best and brightest into diving head first into them?

About the pilgrimage...

The other races treat them like crap and vermin, wouldn't that promote xenophobic thoughts?

Not necessarily. Go out expecting it. Would actually encourage behavior to attempt to prove others' xenophobia wrong.

Still, I would still see a group similar to Terra Firma within the Migrant Fleet.

Group of them, yes. Large number, not necessarily.
Remind you nothing is...human expression...?
Ah. Yes. "Black and white."
Odd expression, but given grey shades in between, suppose works.

But still, when an entire race has been treated like crap for over three hundred years, you'd expect them to have a grudge, wich you dont see.  Theres a big one agaisn't the geth, plainfully obvious, yet the way they were treated by the rest of the races after the exile, I just see them being pissed off as a whole, I certainly would.

Then you would be member of group of xenophobics.
And remember, quarians very social, and not always discriminated against.
They know hate. See non-quarian being kind...means that much more.
Can't be "as whole." Are not group consciousness.

[Himmelstor]

Himmelstor wrote...

Shameless Self Promotion:
Part One of new fanfiction, Stars Crossed, is up in blog.
Please read, comment, and enjoy!
Or old salarian will be sad.
Then go back to research...
Lazy Link: http://social.biowar...1740/blog/3664/

Carry over with music:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwjqO-tgOrg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zi-sy3Xz3Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnt1DRl18so&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clq01TXQR0s

[MasterMegatron]

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Ok here you go guys! My new Tali fan art! Here she is working hard down in engineering! Im not sure they have screwdrivers and wrenches in the far far future but....to hell with it! I love women wrench jockies! Also, please note, she is trying to get a footing to get down lower into the ship (if you ever tried working on a huge Navy ship engine like I have, im sure you can relate). Anywho ... enjoy!! I had so muuch fun making this. It really turned out well!

Well done.

[cannedcream]

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Ok here you go guys! My new Tali fan art! Here she is working hard down in engineering! Im not sure they have screwdrivers and wrenches in the far far future but....to hell with it! I love women wrench jockies! Also, please note, she is trying to get a footing to get down lower into the ship (if you ever tried working on a huge Navy ship engine like I have, im sure you can relate). Anywho ... enjoy!! I had so muuch fun making this. It really turned out well!

What are you talking about? Not a day goes by that I'm not working in some NAVY ship or another.


Seriously, though; this picture is about 50 different kinds of awesome. I love the position of Tali, it's very unique and cool looking.

PS: I think wrench and screwdriver will be the kind of thing that will always exist in some sort of form.
Like the cotton gin or the printing press.
Timeless.

[rayremy]

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

DrakeforBake wrote...

rayremy wrote...

But I like Tali, just stating the obvious, when a group is isolated for long periods of time, they tend to be xenophobic and frightened by outside influences.

Possibly but the whole pilgrimage thing goes against that. If they're so xenophobic of the rest of the Galaxy why do they force their best and brightest into diving head first into them?

About the pilgrimage...

The other races treat them like crap and vermin, wouldn't that promote xenophobic thoughts?

Not necessarily. Go out expecting it. Would actually encourage behavior to attempt to prove others' xenophobia wrong.

Still, I would still see a group similar to Terra Firma within the Migrant Fleet.

Group of them, yes. Large number, not necessarily.
Remind you nothing is...human expression...?
Ah. Yes. "Black and white."
Odd expression, but given grey shades in between, suppose works.

But still, when an entire race has been treated like crap for over three hundred years, you'd expect them to have a grudge, wich you dont see.  Theres a big one agaisn't the geth, plainfully obvious, yet the way they were treated by the rest of the races after the exile, I just see them being pissed off as a whole, I certainly would.

Then you would be member of group of xenophobics.
And remember, quarians very social, and not always discriminated against.
They know hate. See non-quarian being kind...means that much more.
Can't be "as whole." Are not group consciousness.

They sure do discrminate agaisn't the Geth.

[Himmelstor]

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

*snip*
Then you would be member of group of xenophobics.
And remember, quarians very social, and not always discriminated against.
They know hate. See non-quarian being kind...means that much more.
Can't be "as whole." Are not group consciousness.

They sure do discrminate agaisn't the Geth.

Have old grudge against Geth. Consider threat.
And not all anti-Geth. Zaal'Koris vas Quib-Qwib? Unlikely an Admiral alone in opinion.

[rayremy]

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

*snip*
Then you would be member of group of xenophobics.
And remember, quarians very social, and not always discriminated against.
They know hate. See non-quarian being kind...means that much more.
Can't be "as whole." Are not group consciousness.

They sure do discrminate agaisn't the Geth.

Have old grudge against Geth. Consider threat.
And not all anti-Geth. Zaal'Koris vas Quib-Qwib? Unlikely an Admiral alone in opinion.

He still is in the minority, part of the apologist group, same boat then the xenophobic group I'd reckon (A complete guess, there arent even a xenophobic Quarian group that is cannon at the moment).

What does it matter?  When Admiral Xen has my help in getting her Geth army (If its a possibility) The galaxy shall fear the Quarian Armada.

[Himmelstor]

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

*snip*
Then you would be member of group of xenophobics.
And remember, quarians very social, and not always discriminated against.
They know hate. See non-quarian being kind...means that much more.
Can't be "as whole." Are not group consciousness.

They sure do discrminate agaisn't the Geth.

Have old grudge against Geth. Consider threat.
And not all anti-Geth. Zaal'Koris vas Quib-Qwib? Unlikely an Admiral alone in opinion.

He still is in the minority, part of the apologist group, same boat then the xenophobic group I'd reckon (A complete guess, there arent even a xenophobic Quarian group that is cannon at the moment).

What does it matter?  When Admiral Xen has my help in getting her Geth army (If its a possibility) The galaxy shall fear the Quarian Armada.

....................know what? Have fun with that!

[Shazzammer2]

Calinstel wrote...

Tali needs more poetry!

The Tali Pounce, a graceful move,
  and one that works as she can prove.
It has the range, as you can see,
  from close abreast to meters three.
No defense is known, at least not yet,
  so worry well you poor bosh'tet!

that was ... unexpectadly  good. I like I like! Made me chuckle.

[rayremy]

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

*snip*
Then you would be member of group of xenophobics.
And remember, quarians very social, and not always discriminated against.
They know hate. See non-quarian being kind...means that much more.
Can't be "as whole." Are not group consciousness.

They sure do discrminate agaisn't the Geth.

Have old grudge against Geth. Consider threat.
And not all anti-Geth. Zaal'Koris vas Quib-Qwib? Unlikely an Admiral alone in opinion.

He still is in the minority, part of the apologist group, same boat then the xenophobic group I'd reckon (A complete guess, there arent even a xenophobic Quarian group that is cannon at the moment).

What does it matter?  When Admiral Xen has my help in getting her Geth army (If its a possibility) The galaxy shall fear the Quarian Armada.

....................know what? Have fun with that!

Xen is an Admiral isn't she?  She cant be alone with this train of thought within Quarian society.

[Himmelstor]

Calinstel wrote...

Tali needs more poetry!

The Tali Pounce, a graceful move,
  and one that works as she can prove.
It has the range, as you can see,
  from close abreast to meters three.
No defense is known, at least not yet,
  so worry well you poor bosh'tet!

Was good. And amusing.
But don't think Shepard wants to resist...

[cannedcream]

Calinstel wrote...

Tali needs more poetry!

The Tali Pounce, a graceful move,
  and one that works as she can prove.
It has the range, as you can see,
  from close abreast to meters three.
No defense is known, at least not yet,
  so worry well you poor bosh'tet!

 *Snaps fingers in approval.*

[MadCat221]

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Ok here you go guys! My new Tali fan art! Here she is working hard down in engineering! Im not sure they have screwdrivers and wrenches in the far far future but....to hell with it! I love women wrench jockies! Also, please note, she is trying to get a footing to get down lower into the ship (if you ever tried working on a huge Navy ship engine like I have, im sure you can relate). Anywho ... enjoy!! I had so muuch fun making this. It really turned out well!

Not quite enough lower leg bowing.  Other than that, very nice detail.

Here's an idea for you: "My best bud and my babe are aliens".

Garrus, MaleShep, and Tali drinking to good times.  Garrus has his hand up in the air waving a mug of dextro-liquor in drunken revelry, with MaleShep's arm around his shoulder collar... thing... that Turians have .  MaleShep's arm is around Tali's torso, and Tali's head is on MaleShep's shoulder, and she's quietly sipping her drink through a straw out of her helmet.

[Himmelstor]

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

*snip*
Then you would be member of group of xenophobics.
And remember, quarians very social, and not always discriminated against.
They know hate. See non-quarian being kind...means that much more.
Can't be "as whole." Are not group consciousness.

They sure do discrminate agaisn't the Geth.

Have old grudge against Geth. Consider threat.
And not all anti-Geth. Zaal'Koris vas Quib-Qwib? Unlikely an Admiral alone in opinion.

He still is in the minority, part of the apologist group, same boat then the xenophobic group I'd reckon (A complete guess, there arent even a xenophobic Quarian group that is cannon at the moment).

What does it matter?  When Admiral Xen has my help in getting her Geth army (If its a possibility) The galaxy shall fear the Quarian Armada.

....................know what? Have fun with that!

Xen is an Admiral isn't she?  She cant be alone with this train of thought within Quarian society.

Would be another extreme. Imagine most with Han'Gerral.
But Daro'Xen crafty...may not be open about. Told Shepard and Tali, but they leave...could be secret...
...will need to watch Daro'Xen closely. Very closely.

[rayremy]

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

*snip*
Then you would be member of group of xenophobics.
And remember, quarians very social, and not always discriminated against.
They know hate. See non-quarian being kind...means that much more.
Can't be "as whole." Are not group consciousness.

They sure do discrminate agaisn't the Geth.

Have old grudge against Geth. Consider threat.
And not all anti-Geth. Zaal'Koris vas Quib-Qwib? Unlikely an Admiral alone in opinion.

He still is in the minority, part of the apologist group, same boat then the xenophobic group I'd reckon (A complete guess, there arent even a xenophobic Quarian group that is cannon at the moment).

What does it matter?  When Admiral Xen has my help in getting her Geth army (If its a possibility) The galaxy shall fear the Quarian Armada.

....................know what? Have fun with that!

Xen is an Admiral isn't she?  She cant be alone with this train of thought within Quarian society.

Would be another extreme. Imagine most with Han'Gerral.
But Daro'Xen crafty...may not be open about. Told Shepard and Tali, but they leave...could be secret...
...will need to watch Daro'Xen closely. Very closely.

You have a point...  It would be odd if her plans were out in the open like that...  this leads to the possibility of a secret organisation... I like her more with each passing day!

[MasterMegatron]

Himmelstor wrote...

Would be another extreme. Imagine most with Han'Gerral.
But Daro'Xen crafty...may not be open about. Told Shepard and Tali, but they leave...could be secret...
...will need to watch Daro'Xen closely. Very closely.

I have already put forward data on Admiral Xen to the geth. Consensus is being built on any actions we may need to take. All possibilities are being considered.

[Shazzammer2]

MadCat221 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Ok here you go guys! My new Tali fan art! Here she is working hard down in engineering! Im not sure they have screwdrivers and wrenches in the far far future but....to hell with it! I love women wrench jockies! Also, please note, she is trying to get a footing to get down lower into the ship (if you ever tried working on a huge Navy ship engine like I have, im sure you can relate). Anywho ... enjoy!! I had so muuch fun making this. It really turned out well!

Not quite enough lower leg bowing.  Other than that, very nice detail.

Here's an idea for you: "My best bud and my babe are aliens".

Garrus, MaleShep, and Tali drinking to good times.  Garrus has his hand up in the air waving a mug of dextro-liquor in drunken revelry, with MaleShep's arm around his shoulder collar... thing... that Turians have .  MaleShep's arm is around Tali's torso, and Tali's head is on MaleShep's shoulder, and she's quietly sipping her drink through a straw out of her helmet.

Hmm...I may consider drawing that. Thanks for the comment. Appreciate it.

[Himmelstor]

MasterMegatron wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Would be another extreme. Imagine most with Han'Gerral.
But Daro'Xen crafty...may not be open about. Told Shepard and Tali, but they leave...could be secret...
...will need to watch Daro'Xen closely. Very closely.

I have already put forward data on Admiral Xen to the geth. Consensus is being built on any actions we may need to take. All possibilities are being considered.

Recommend assassination. Too risky to allow Daro'Xen to continue research.
Could disrupt balance of power.
Recommend contact STG team seven. Have arranged.

[rayremy]

Himmelstor wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Would be another extreme. Imagine most with Han'Gerral.
But Daro'Xen crafty...may not be open about. Told Shepard and Tali, but they leave...could be secret...
...will need to watch Daro'Xen closely. Very closely.

I have already put forward data on Admiral Xen to the geth. Consensus is being built on any actions we may need to take. All possibilities are being considered.

Recommend assassination. Too risky to allow Daro'Xen to continue research.
Could disrupt balance of power.
Recommend contact STG team seven. Have arranged.

Good luck with that.  And even if you succeed, even greater luck with the political fallout of Salarians interfering in Quarian politics if found out.

[MasterMegatron]

Himmelstor wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Would be another extreme. Imagine most with Han'Gerral.
But Daro'Xen crafty...may not be open about. Told Shepard and Tali, but they leave...could be secret...
...will need to watch Daro'Xen closely. Very closely.

I have already put forward data on Admiral Xen to the geth. Consensus is being built on any actions we may need to take. All possibilities are being considered.

Recommend assassination. Too risky to allow Daro'Xen to continue research.
Could disrupt balance of power.
Recommend contact STG team seven. Have arranged.

If possible. Assassination would prove somewhat difficult if Xen never leaves the Flotilla. And if it is traced back to us, it would damage quarian/geth relations, such as they are.

[SirEmilCrane]

Himmelstor wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Would be another extreme. Imagine most with Han'Gerral.
But Daro'Xen crafty...may not be open about. Told Shepard and Tali, but they leave...could be secret...
...will need to watch Daro'Xen closely. Very closely.

I have already put forward data on Admiral Xen to the geth. Consensus is being built on any actions we may need to take. All possibilities are being considered.

Recommend assassination. Too risky to allow Daro'Xen to continue research.
Could disrupt balance of power.
Recommend contact STG team seven. Have arranged.

No foreign operation will be carried out on the floatillia. If she becomes a problem I'll have S-Company pick her up

[Himmelstor]

rayremy wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Would be another extreme. Imagine most with Han'Gerral.
But Daro'Xen crafty...may not be open about. Told Shepard and Tali, but they leave...could be secret...
...will need to watch Daro'Xen closely. Very closely.

I have already put forward data on Admiral Xen to the geth. Consensus is being built on any actions we may need to take. All possibilities are being considered.

Recommend assassination. Too risky to allow Daro'Xen to continue research.
Could disrupt balance of power.
Recommend contact STG team seven. Have arranged.

Good luck with that.  And even if you succeed, even greater luck with the political fallout of Salarians interfering in Quarian politics if found out.

Salarians have been interfering for a long time...specialty.
And nothing impossible. Easier to kill quarian. Particularly one confined to fleet.
Accidents happen...

[SirEmilCrane]

I need a Han'Gerrel avatar