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[Wonko the Sane]

 

Archonsg wrote...... Just need one or two capital ships gunnery officers bought or better yet sneak in a sabotage unit / device and *booom!* something servrely goes wrong inside the Normandy. If every hand on board dies during battle, you can't really point a finger at TIM now can you?
 Same with "friendly" fire, escpecially if TIM can arrange for an Alliance vessel or three to hit the Normandy, they could claim it was a SNAFU, and put blame either to faulty IFF sensors or malfunctioning targetting. 

So perhaps TIM wouldn't be so much of a boss as a plot device like the reapers killing you in ME2

[Archonsg]

valttu wrote...

But in the end, after you've won, you talk to him once more, and if you're still Paragon to him, you can say something like: "Forget Cerberus... How'd you like a seat on the Council?" 

TIM BECOMES PARAGON!

Hiya. Good to see you back.

I don't know.
I really don't feel that TIM will be affected by what you do, so I don't think he'll "turn" Paragon just because you proved that its the "better" path.
The situation between TIM and Shepard I think is like two Alpha wolves. There can be only one and he doesn't want you around because he doesn't want to answer to Shepard, he wants Shepard to answer to him. So you'll both will have to fight one day.
I am betting that he'll do something "stupid" because he is arrogant and thinks he knows better, thus he'll attack sooner then expected.

[sergio71785]

okay, I'm going to put my phone down and try and get some sleep. goodnight!

[Wonko the Sane]

sergio71785 wrote...

okay, I'm going to put my phone down and try and get some sleep. goodnight!

keelah se'lai

[Phil725]

Archonsg wrote...
*snip*

I don't think Mirranda would betray you. Its likely though, since TIM does have her by the ****** on account of her sister, but, as Phil pointed out, I don't think he'll make an overt move.

He does not however, need to fight a war to kill Shepard and Crew.

Just need one or two capital ships gunnery officers bought or better yet sneak in a sabotage unit / device and *booom!* something servrely goes wrong inside the Normandy. If every hand on board dies during battle, you can't really point a finger at TIM now can you?
 Same with "friendly" fire, escpecially if TIM can arrange for an Alliance vessel or three to hit the Normandy, they could claim it was a SNAFU, and put blame either to faulty IFF sensors or malfunctioning targetting.

Ah yeah good point about covertly taking out Shepard.  He could get away with that.  From a game standpoint how does that work though?  You find out about his plan somehow and then have to kill him to keep him from killing you first?  I guess that works. 

Hmm, I see where this is going, He better not touch Tali

[Flaargman117]

sergio71785 wrote...

okay, I'm going to put my phone down and try and get some sleep. goodnight!

I just woke and everybody goes to sleep, time zones are stupid.
Good night Sergio. Keelah se'lai!

[valttu]

Archonsg wrote...

valttu wrote...

But in the end, after you've won, you talk to him once more, and if you're still Paragon to him, you can say something like: "Forget Cerberus... How'd you like a seat on the Council?" 

TIM BECOMES PARAGON!

Hiya. Good to see you back.

I don't know.
I really don't feel that TIM will be affected by what you do, so I don't think he'll "turn" Paragon just because you proved that its the "better" path.
The situation between TIM and Shepard I think is like two Alpha wolves. There can be only one and he doesn't want you around because he doesn't want to answer to Shepard, he wants Shepard to answer to him. So you'll both will have to fight one day.
I am betting that he'll do something "stupid" because he is arrogant and thinks he knows better, thus he'll attack sooner then expected.

Yeah good to se ya too.

Yeah I'm not saying it's likely, but it would be nice.
Either way, I'm happy. Kickin TIM's ass will be satisfying.  Maybe we can side with the Alliance to take Cerberus down as a whole? Epic...

[valttu]

sergio71785 wrote...

okay, I'm going to put my phone down and try and get some sleep. goodnight!

G'night sergiooooo! Keelah Se'lai. May Tali wander your dreams...

[valttu]

Flaargman117 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

okay, I'm going to put my phone down and try and get some sleep. goodnight!

I just woke and everybody goes to sleep, time zones are stupid.
Good night Sergio. Keelah se'lai!

Heh, I'm always with you man. We europeans must stick together.

[valttu]

I mean, in ME1 Cerberus was really disgusting. In ME2 they resurrect you but you're only using them to your advantage. Then finally in ME3 you can blow them sky high..! COOL!

[Flaargman117]

valttu wrote...

Flaargman117 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

okay, I'm going to put my phone down and try and get some sleep. goodnight!

I just woke and everybody goes to sleep, time zones are stupid.
Good night Sergio. Keelah se'lai!

Heh, I'm always with you man. We europeans must stick together.

Brofist'd.

[Timbama]

valttu wrote...

Flaargman117 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

okay, I'm going to put my phone down and try and get some sleep. goodnight!

I just woke and everybody goes to sleep, time zones are stupid.
Good night Sergio. Keelah se'lai!

Heh, I'm always with you man. We europeans must stick together.

Imma co-sign that one

[Phil725]

valttu wrote...

Archonsg wrote...
*snip*

Hiya. Good to see you back.

I don't know.
I really don't feel that TIM will be affected by what you do, so I don't think he'll "turn" Paragon just because you proved that its the "better" path.
The situation between TIM and Shepard I think is like two Alpha wolves. There can be only one and he doesn't want you around because he doesn't want to answer to Shepard, he wants Shepard to answer to him. So you'll both will have to fight one day.
I am betting that he'll do something "stupid" because he is arrogant and thinks he knows better, thus he'll attack sooner then expected.

Yeah good to se ya too.

Yeah I'm not saying it's likely, but it would be nice.
Either way, I'm happy. Kickin TIM's ass will be satisfying.  Maybe we can side with the Alliance to take Cerberus down as a whole? Epic...

I always assumed the Alliance was one of the backers of Cerberus.  At least at the very top.  Think of how useful Cerberus is to the Alliance.  Cerberus does everything they can to advance humanity, and in turn the Alliance.  Stuff that the Alliance couldn't dream of doing because of rules.  The stuff that Cerberus does is disgusting, but the pragmatists at the top aren't going to avoid tapping into the potential if they can benefit from it.

And the Alliance has the built in defense of calling Cerberus a terrorist organization and being appaled at what they've done in the public eye.  Its the best of both worlds.  They get the benefits, with none of the work and risks.

I really don't buy that the Alliance couldn't have shut down Cerberus long ago if they had wanted to.

[Archonsg]

Wonko the Sane wrote...

 

Archonsg wrote...... Just need one or two capital ships gunnery officers bought or better yet sneak in a sabotage unit / device and *booom!* something servrely goes wrong inside the Normandy. If every hand on board dies during battle, you can't really point a finger at TIM now can you?
 Same with "friendly" fire, escpecially if TIM can arrange for an Alliance vessel or three to hit the Normandy, they could claim it was a SNAFU, and put blame either to faulty IFF sensors or malfunctioning targetting. 

So perhaps TIM wouldn't be so much of a boss as a plot device like the reapers killing you in ME2

I love this time of day. "The hour of the wolf" for many and quite oddly, it is usually when the most intelligent conversations come about. Also some of the best artwork too.

@ Wonko
Perhaps, perhaps not.
It really depends on how much "leverage" Bioware wants to give TIM in ME3.
TIM could very well be a plot device, but I think he'll play a much bigger role, at least maybe up to 3/4 into the game. 
Gotta think also not only along the Paragon path but also the Renegade path in which you gave TIM the collector base. The way I see it, Bioware needs to balance each path out and play out the story for each path to make sense for both. TIM's betrayal in my view is "neutral" since it will be in his best interest to betray you once *he thinks* the reaper threat is done.

Renegade path might possibly lead Shepard towards taking out and taking over TIM.
Paragaon path removes Cerberus chain of command totally, pardoning those who would serve, bring the more hardliners to criminal court and trial them.

[valttu]

Timbama wrote...

valttu wrote...

Flaargman117 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

okay, I'm going to put my phone down and try and get some sleep. goodnight!

I just woke and everybody goes to sleep, time zones are stupid.
Good night Sergio. Keelah se'lai!

Heh, I'm always with you man. We europeans must stick together.

-brofist-

Imma co-sign that one

Where are you from, mate?

[valttu]

Phil725 wrote...

valttu wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

-snip-

Yeah good to se ya too.

Yeah I'm not saying it's likely, but it would be nice.
Either way, I'm happy. Kickin TIM's ass will be satisfying.  Maybe we can side with the Alliance to take Cerberus down as a whole? Epic...

I always assumed the Alliance was one of the backers of Cerberus.  At least at the very top.  Think of how useful Cerberus is to the Alliance.  Cerberus does everything they can to advance humanity, and in turn the Alliance.  Stuff that the Alliance couldn't dream of doing because of rules.  The stuff that Cerberus does is disgusting, but the pragmatists at the top aren't going to avoid tapping into the potential if they can benefit from it.

And the Alliance has the built in defense of calling Cerberus a terrorist organization and being appaled at what they've done in the public eye.  Its the best of both worlds.  They get the benefits, with none of the work and risks.

I really don't buy that the Alliance couldn't have shut down Cerberus long ago if they had wanted to.

Hmm you're probably right.

Well then, with the Alliance or alone, I'LL STILL DESTROY DEM S.O.B's!

[Timbama]

valttu wrote...

Timbama wrote...

valttu wrote...

Flaargman117 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

okay, I'm going to put my phone down and try and get some sleep. goodnight!

I just woke and everybody goes to sleep, time zones are stupid.
Good night Sergio. Keelah se'lai!

Heh, I'm always with you man. We europeans must stick together.

-brofist-

Imma co-sign that one

Where are you from, mate?

Germany

[valttu]

Archonsg wrote...

Wonko the Sane wrote...

 

Archonsg wrote...... Just need one or two capital ships gunnery officers bought or better yet sneak in a sabotage unit / device and *booom!* something servrely goes wrong inside the Normandy. If every hand on board dies during battle, you can't really point a finger at TIM now can you?
 Same with "friendly" fire, escpecially if TIM can arrange for an Alliance vessel or three to hit the Normandy, they could claim it was a SNAFU, and put blame either to faulty IFF sensors or malfunctioning targetting. 

So perhaps TIM wouldn't be so much of a boss as a plot device like the reapers killing you in ME2

I love this time of day. "The hour of the wolf" for many and quite oddly, it is usually when the most intelligent conversations come about. Also some of the best artwork too.

@ Wonko
Perhaps, perhaps not.
It really depends on how much "leverage" Bioware wants to give TIM in ME3.
TIM could very well be a plot device, but I think he'll play a much bigger role, at least maybe up to 3/4 into the game. 
Gotta think also not only along the Paragon path but also the Renegade path in which you gave TIM the collector base. The way I see it, Bioware needs to balance each path out and play out the story for each path to make sense for both. TIM's betrayal in my view is "neutral" since it will be in his best interest to betray you once *he thinks* the reaper threat is done.

Renegade path might possibly lead Shepard towards taking out and taking over TIM.
Paragaon path removes Cerberus chain of command totally, pardoning those who would serve, bring the more hardliners to criminal court and trial them.

Yeah, indeed. And also, yes, this is absolutely the best time of the week to be here. Saturday morning and good convos.

[herbie dog]

Hi Everyone

The one and only herbie dog is back!

[Flaargman117]

Timbama wrote...

valttu wrote...

Timbama wrote...

valttu wrote...

Flaargman117 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

okay, I'm going to put my phone down and try and get some sleep. goodnight!

I just woke and everybody goes to sleep, time zones are stupid.
Good night Sergio. Keelah se'lai!

Heh, I'm always with you man. We europeans must stick together.

-brofist-

Imma co-sign that one

Where are you from, mate?

Germany

Cool, dude. I'm in the UK, it's only just gone 10 o'clock here. I have the whole day to relax.

[valttu]

Timbama wrote...

valttu wrote...

Timbama wrote...

valttu wrote...

Flaargman117 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

okay, I'm going to put my phone down and try and get some sleep. goodnight!

I just woke and everybody goes to sleep, time zones are stupid.
Good night Sergio. Keelah se'lai!

Heh, I'm always with you man. We europeans must stick together.

-brofist-

Imma co-sign that one

Where are you from, mate?

Germany

Cool. Now I know dudes here from at least 6 European countries. UK, Germany, Denmark, Finland (myself lol), Bulgaria, Czech... epic.

[valttu]

herbie dog wrote...

Hi Everyone
The one and only herbie dog is back!

Herbieeeeeeee! Whaddup, G?

[Flaargman117]

herbie dog wrote...

Hi Everyone
The one and only herbie dog is back!

yo dawg. We're talking about things.

[herbie dog]

Flaargman117 wrote...

herbie dog wrote...

Hi Everyone
The one and only herbie dog is back!

yo dawg. We're talking about things.

You don`t say?

[Phil725]

Archonsg wrote...
*snip*
I love this time of day. "The hour of the wolf" for many and quite oddly, it is usually when the most intelligent conversations come about. Also some of the best artwork too.

I think there are always enough people around to have intelligent, lengthy discussions, they just either don't try, or can't start/sustain them during high post times of day.  Its rough trying to have a lengthy debate where 2 pages fly between each post.  Usually the less people around, the better the average conversation is.  Its why the smaller character threads are always on topic. 

I've found any time from the last few hours for like the next 7-10 hours even to be adequate for intelligent discussion.  I actually like 4-5 hours from now better than now.  There is still few enough people that you can discuss stuff easily, but there are more people to offer opinions in general.