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All Tali fans, read this! IT'S UP TO US TO KEEP TALI ALIVE! 3.0!!


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chool77 wrote...

what think is funny is how bioware pushed miranda on us soo much... and it did not work lol

lol

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chool77 wrote...

what think is funny is how bioware pushed miranda on us soo much... and it did not work lol


I have a feeling a lot of it was just the marketing people.

Miranda is hot, modeled and voice by a lovely actress, etc. You can throw her on TV, and bam, she instantly appeals to 18-35 males, the core demographic of the game. Tali has a great body, but to most people who aren't already familiar with her, she just won't appeal at quite the same level as Miranda. Basically, Miranda is very marketable. 

But yeah, it is awesome how Tali utterly flew past Miranda, and all other LIs, in ME2. That Newsvine poll makes me really happy. Her winning all polls here on the bioware forums is one thing, but winning at a news website--which taps into a much larger pool of people--is just awesome. 

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 Two of the best Tali interpretations that I have seen.

http://legendoftrini...Zorah-153563544


http://black-strawba.../Tali-157732695

Wow! That second one is a seriously nice interpretation of Tali! It reminds me of kind of a cross between a night elf and a mermaid....hmm maybe it's the background, lol!

Here are a couple of my personal favorites. Enjoy!

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"What could I possibly be suggesting?"......... what a dirty girl lol

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chool77 wrote...

"What could I possibly be suggesting?"......... what a dirty girl lol


That's not dirty! Well, at least not in the context she said it, in-game. :P

It could be dirty though. Something like:

Shepard: Hey Tali, I couldn't help notice bottles of antibiotics and herbal supplements on my desk. Are you suggesting something? :wub:

Tali: What could I possibly be suggesting...? ;)

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chool77 wrote...

"What could I possibly be suggesting?"......... what a dirty girl lol


That's not dirty! Well, at least not in the context she said it, in-game. :P

It could be dirty though. Something like:

Shepard: Hey Tali, I couldn't help notice bottles of antibiotics and herbal supplements on my desk. Are you suggesting something? :wub:

Tali: What could I possibly be suggesting...? ;)



thats what i was thinking...

<3

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Here are a couple of my personal favorites. Enjoy!


I always liked that first one. 

The second one... I'm pretty sure that's not Tali; looks like a Draenei from World of Warcraft. :P

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you know.. i was thinking... what if they had a kinda of renegade or paragon sex option for every LI

i bring this up cuz they have one for jack.... where they made it meaningless other than to pop one off

do you think they could do that for all of the LI?... if so how pissed off are you getting right now at the thought of some one just using tali for sex!!!

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chool77 wrote...

you know.. i was thinking... what if they had a kinda of renegade or paragon sex option for every LI

i bring this up cuz they have one for jack.... where they made it meaningless other to pop one off

do you think they could do that for all of the LI?... if so how pissed off are you getting right now at the thought of some one just using tali for sex!!!


Extremely. I strongly disapprove of simply using someone for sex. But in Tali's case it's magnified hundreds of times by two facts: First, and most important, it's a genuine risk to her life. Secondly, it's especially cruel to do that to someone who's in a "first love" stage.

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chool77 wrote...

you know.. i was thinking... what if they had a kinda of renegade or paragon sex option for every LI

i bring this up cuz they have one for jack.... where they made it meaningless other than to pop one off

do you think they could do that for all of the LI?... if so how pissed off are you getting right now at the thought of some one just using tali for sex!!!


It doesn't fit into the storyline in any real way though.  Jack's made sense because of her casual views towards sex.  Tali literally can't have sex with you until the Omega 4 relay.  Sex isn't a casual act for her, so something like that would require Shep going through the whole romance dialogue not meaning anything, and lying to score.  Basically, it won't be in ME3, and it doesn't make sense in ME2.

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sergio71785 wrote...

chool77 wrote...

you know.. i was thinking... what if they had a kinda of renegade or paragon sex option for every LI

i bring this up cuz they have one for jack.... where they made it meaningless other to pop one off

do you think they could do that for all of the LI?... if so how pissed off are you getting right now at the thought of some one just using tali for sex!!!


Extremely. I strongly disapprove of simply using someone for sex. But in Tali's case it's magnified hundreds of times by two facts: First, and most important, it's a genuine risk to her life. Secondly, it's especially cruel to do that to someone who's in a "first love" stage.



i know right... but do you think they could do it...

and if they did, what would it be like for tal*grrrrrrr... must fight down rage*.....for miranda?!

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chool77 wrote...

you know.. i was thinking... what if they had a kinda of renegade or paragon sex option for every LI

i bring this up cuz they have one for jack.... where they made it meaningless other than to pop one off

do you think they could do that for all of the LI?... if so how pissed off are you getting right now at the thought of some one just using tali for sex!!!

Well Jack had it all the time it was casual for her. She gave you the option because it was a test to see if your dude was actually wanting a relationship or just in it for the sex.

With Tali i dont think Tali would ever do that. and i dont get how someone could just use Tali for that i want a relationship with Tali not just sex but i see what you are saying. I dont know if that would work or not but who knows

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chool77 wrote...

you know.. i was thinking... what if they had a kinda of renegade or paragon sex option for every LI

i bring this up cuz they have one for jack.... where they made it meaningless other than to pop one off

do you think they could do that for all of the LI?... if so how pissed off are you getting right now at the thought of some one just using tali for sex!!!


It doesn't fit into the storyline in any real way though.  Jack's made sense because of her casual views towards sex.  Tali literally can't have sex with you until the Omega 4 relay.  Sex isn't a casual act for her, so something like that would require Shep going through the whole romance dialogue not meaning anything, and lying to score.  Basically, it won't be in ME3, and it doesn't make sense in ME2.



...? no one said it would be easy lol............

and jacks helped the story ..how? 

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chool77 wrote...

i know right... but do you think they could do it...

and if they did, what would it be like for tal*grrrrrrr... must fight down rage*.....for miranda?!


I don't see how they could do it with Tali. Tali would not have casual sex. The only way they could is if you manipulate her into believing you have feelings for her. That would be such a betrayel to her, ugh, I don't even want to think about it.

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chool77 wrote...

you know.. i was thinking... what if they had a kinda of renegade or paragon sex option for every LI

i bring this up cuz they have one for jack.... where they made it meaningless other than to pop one off

do you think they could do that for all of the LI?... if so how pissed off are you getting right now at the thought of some one just using tali for sex!!!

Well Jack had it all the time it was casual for her. She gave you the option because it was a test to see if your dude was actually wanting a relationship or just in it for the sex.

With Tali i dont think Tali would ever do that. and i dont get how someone could just use Tali for that i want a relationship with Tali not just sex but i see what you are saying. I dont know if that would work or not but who knows



she is still a young girl... she could be manipulated by  renegade shep

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chool77 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

chool77 wrote...

you know.. i was thinking... what if they had a kinda of renegade or paragon sex option for every LI

i bring this up cuz they have one for jack.... where they made it meaningless other than to pop one off

do you think they could do that for all of the LI?... if so how pissed off are you getting right now at the thought of some one just using tali for sex!!!


It doesn't fit into the storyline in any real way though.  Jack's made sense because of her casual views towards sex.  Tali literally can't have sex with you until the Omega 4 relay.  Sex isn't a casual act for her, so something like that would require Shep going through the whole romance dialogue not meaning anything, and lying to score.  Basically, it won't be in ME3, and it doesn't make sense in ME2.



...? no one said it would be easy lol............

and jacks helped the story ..how? 


It helped explain her mind set a little better.  It showed her casual attitude towards sex first hand, and more importantly, it gives Shepard an opportunity to prove that his words are genuine.  Jack suspects he's just talking crap to score, like all other men in her life, and she basically tests him the only way she knows how.

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chool77 wrote...

i know right... but do you think they could do it...

and if they did, what would it be like for tal*grrrrrrr... must fight down rage*.....for miranda?!


I don't see how they could do it with Tali. Tali would not have casual sex. The only way they could is if you manipulate her into believing you have feelings for her. That would be such a betrayel to her, ugh, I don't even want to think about it.


she could be manipulated.. think about it she trust shep sooooo much.

if he wanted to get some.. it would not take much talking

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chool77 wrote...

i know right... but do you think they could do it...

and if they did, what would it be like for tal*grrrrrrr... must fight down rage*.....for miranda?!


I don't see how they could do it with Tali. Tali would not have casual sex. The only way they could is if you manipulate her into believing you have feelings for her. That would be such a betrayel to her, ugh, I don't even want to think about it.


Yeah this, I'm not saying that it would be impossible to manipulate her into loving you, just that it's such a horrible thing to do that it won't ever be in the ME series. 

Don't worry about it happening.  There is a huge difference between Jack's renegade romance and what anyone else's would be like. 

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Phil725 wrote...

chool77 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

chool77 wrote...

you know.. i was thinking... what if they had a kinda of renegade or paragon sex option for every LI

i bring this up cuz they have one for jack.... where they made it meaningless other than to pop one off

do you think they could do that for all of the LI?... if so how pissed off are you getting right now at the thought of some one just using tali for sex!!!


It doesn't fit into the storyline in any real way though.  Jack's made sense because of her casual views towards sex.  Tali literally can't have sex with you until the Omega 4 relay.  Sex isn't a casual act for her, so something like that would require Shep going through the whole romance dialogue not meaning anything, and lying to score.  Basically, it won't be in ME3, and it doesn't make sense in ME2.



...? no one said it would be easy lol............

and jacks helped the story ..how? 


It helped explain her mind set a little better.  It showed her casual attitude towards sex first hand, and more importantly, it gives Shepard an opportunity to prove that his words are genuine.  Jack suspects he's just talking crap to score, like all other men in her life, and she basically tests him the only way she knows how.



ok ok true ture

but maybe shep does not even really win with tali if he goes for it all renegade like?

i just think if you have a the chance to screw up with jack.. then why not the other LI's

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sergio71785 wrote...

chool77 wrote...

i know right... but do you think they could do it...

and if they did, what would it be like for tal*grrrrrrr... must fight down rage*.....for miranda?!


I don't see how they could do it with Tali. Tali would not have casual sex. The only way they could is if you manipulate her into believing you have feelings for her. That would be such a betrayel to her, ugh, I don't even want to think about it.

Yea that would be the meanest thing in the world:(. I dont get how anyone could do that to someone expecially Tali:wub: she is so cute and innocent that would be so sad....i dont want to think about it:(

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chool77 wrote...

she could be manipulated.. think about it she trust shep sooooo much.

if he wanted to get some.. it would not take much talking


No, it would be easy for him. And it would probably be the most  ****hole-ish Renegade option in the scope of all the ME games. 

Not only would it be an unspeakable betrayel to her, it's a risk to her life. Basically, it goes beyond renegade and becomes simply evil. I think it would be out of character even for a Renegade Shepard. 

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... i know im sad just thinking about it... but i wanted something for use all to talk about!!



still ... *sad face*

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chool77 wrote...

she could be manipulated.. think about it she trust shep sooooo much.

if he wanted to get some.. it would not take much talking


No, it would be easy for him. And it would probably be the most  ****hole-ish Renegade option in the scope of all the ME games. 

Not only would it be an unspeakable betrayel to her, it's a risk to her life. Basically, it goes beyond renegade and becomes simply evil. I think it would be out of character even for a Renegade Shepard. 



dont hold it above renegade shep.. the only thing they have not given him so far is lust.. which is not far off from where he is now

im not saying i like it .... but it could  happen

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chool77 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

chool77 wrote...
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...? no one said it would be easy lol............

and jacks helped the story ..how? 


It helped explain her mind set a little better.  It showed her casual attitude towards sex first hand, and more importantly, it gives Shepard an opportunity to prove that his words are genuine.  Jack suspects he's just talking crap to score, like all other men in her life, and she basically tests him the only way she knows how.



ok ok true ture

but maybe shep does not even really win with tali if he goes for it all renegade like?

i just think if you have a the chance to screw up with jack.. then why not the other LI's


Because not all of the LIs are the same.  That's why its great.  A relationship with Tali, a young quarian with genuine feelings for you to start with is nothing like a hardened murderer who hates everything.  It would make no sense at all if they followed the same romance arc. 

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While on the subject, while I've only played paragon, from what I've observed from some videos and some save/load exploring, is that a lot of his renegade options when talking to Tali aren't even... renegade (not counting rejections of course). He almost seems like... an overprotective boyfriend or something.