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[The_KFD_Case]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

Turians have 39 dreadnoughts, Asari have 24, humans have 8

Crusiers would clock in at somewhere in the hundreds for turians, and then less and less as you go down

Mass effect fleets aren't that big, they're actually quite realistic in size

You left out the Salarians and the Asari actually have 21, and conveniently avoided any mention of frigates, etc. Combine those figures with the cruisers and dreadnaughts for the major military powers and we are looking at thousands of military craft. From where I stand your argument doesn't have much of a leg to stand on. We will have to agree to disagree. I can live with that.

Dreadnaughts per Council race:

Turians: 39
Asari: 21
Salarians: 16
Humans: 8

Total: 84 ergo the better part of a hundred dreadnaughts.

Oops, I was just going by the 5:3:1 rule fromt he treaty of Firaxen

Anyway, if they only have 84 dreads then they can't have thousands of other ships,  if the turians can only support and maintain 39 then they cant have thousands of crusiers.

Point being the citadel fleet is powerful but not  thousands of ships

I'm curious how exactly you reach the conclusion that because there are only so many dreadnaughts that there won't be hundreds of support craft (i.e. hundreds of cruisers, frigates, etc.) for each species to support them? Add them together and we get thousands of ships. All that is required for something to turn in to the thousands (plural) is for that something to reach a count of 2,000 or more. So no, I don't agree with your conclusion and I reject it entirely.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 26 février 2010 - 04:12 .

[Himmelstor]

MarineBorn wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

CandraZ wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

CandraZ wrote...

Anyone wonder about if the geth don't hate other species then why did they kill everyone on that one ship that entered the veil??

Territorial behavior has nothing to do with hate. 

Yeah but maybe they could of made peace then. Unless, well when was that?? If it was near the morning war they might of still been scared of other races.

Geth do not fear
Geth do not hate
Geth do not love
Emotions are a fault int he hardware of Organics. 

without emotions many great things accomplished by society would not exist. Emotions cuase many reactions whether it is fear making someone do something to avoid something else or love making someone do something to get something......lota somethings envolved.....hey did you hear about the firewalker DLC comming out soon WE GET THE HAMMERHEAD!

Sometimes. Sometimes start destructive conflict.

The Doctor is In.

[SpatFieya]

MarineBorn wrote...

I wonder what America is like back on earth....i can see it now *looks up at the ceiling* oh yes glorious America we will have a massive army of hovering laser tanks and body armour that actually protects us!

To be honest I'm curious about that as well. I hope you can bring Tali or w/e squad mates to earth with you in ME3.

[FenixPendragon]

SpatFieya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Commandr Bond wrote...

While that proposal is ideal in nature, the Quarians have a habit of stripping whatever systems they pass through, and I don't think the Alliance would be too receptive of the Migrant Fleet coming to Sol.

Plus it'd be more benficial to them than to us, and humans have that habit of wanting more than just a warm feeling when they make deals. The alliance would be looking for something of use, and I'm not sure what the Quarians could give them.

Agreed. As mentioned in a previous post I would vote against such a proposition. I'd support helping the Quarians find a new world to colonize within Council space in an area that has not yet been developed.

Terraform mars. We're not using it anyways. Then they pay human taxes or w/e. possibly protection fee's.

Then again, just open up free trading. It would add to earths golden age.

Yes and you would be close enough that you could bring Tali home to visit Shepherd's mom (provided she is home on leave).

[CandraZ]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

CandraZ wrote...

Anyone wonder about if the geth don't hate other species then why did they kill everyone on that one ship that entered the veil??

Yes, IIRC it is mentioned in one Codex entry that the Heretics moved beyond the Perseus Veil and likely have their main bases of operations on the outer inner edges of the Perseus Veil, and thus are likely the first "Geth" any organic species' ships would have encountered.

Oh ok then. That explains how the people were made husks. It was heretics.

[cBselfmonkey]

nvm

Modifié par cBselfmonkey, 26 février 2010 - 04:04 .

[Himmelstor]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

Turians have 39 dreadnoughts, Asari have 24, humans have 8

Crusiers would clock in at somewhere in the hundreds for turians, and then less and less as you go down

Mass effect fleets aren't that big, they're actually quite realistic in size

You left out the Salarians and the Asari actually have 21, and conveniently avoided any mention of frigates, etc. Combine those figures with the cruisers and dreadnaughts for the major military powers and we are looking at thousands of military craft. From where I stand your argument doesn't have much of a leg to stand on. We will have to agree to disagree. I can live with that.

Dreadnaughts per Council race:

Turians: 39
Asari: 21
Salarians: 16
Humans: 8

Total: 84 ergo the better part of a hundred dreadnaughts.

Oops, I was just going by the 5:3:1 rule fromt he treaty of Firaxen

Anyway, if they only have 84 dreads then they can't have thousands of other ships,  if the turians can only support and maintain 39 then they cant have thousands of crusiers.

Point being the citadel fleet is powerful but not  thousands of ships

Just to clarify. 5:3:1 rule is Turians:Council member species: All other council species.

Humans likely built up numbers of dreadnoughts after two years of being member.
Or left all others in dust when left in charge of Citadel Space.

[The_KFD_Case]

alickar wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

alickar wrote...
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if ur speaking the way ur speakin then id bring about 50 dreadknoughts 500 battleships 200 cruisers and 40 light cruisers along if we start loosing battle bring turians in the battle

Now that's a fleet! Sadly humanity only currently has 8 dreadnaughts.

but everyone asari turians etc. are joining the fight against the reaperz

Not yet they haven't. The Council races may be allied but allies do not always get along and they most certainly do not always share the same points of view as to what to do, when to do it, where to do it nor how to do it. Then there's the politicking and each group trying to make sure they aren't losing out while the others gain something, etc. I find your naivety touching - and I mean no disrespect by that comment - yet sadly such solidarity is rare even when a common foe is incoming.

[SpatFieya]

FenixPendragon wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Commandr Bond wrote...

While that proposal is ideal in nature, the Quarians have a habit of stripping whatever systems they pass through, and I don't think the Alliance would be too receptive of the Migrant Fleet coming to Sol.

Plus it'd be more benficial to them than to us, and humans have that habit of wanting more than just a warm feeling when they make deals. The alliance would be looking for something of use, and I'm not sure what the Quarians could give them.

Agreed. As mentioned in a previous post I would vote against such a proposition. I'd support helping the Quarians find a new world to colonize within Council space in an area that has not yet been developed.

Terraform mars. We're not using it anyways. Then they pay human taxes or w/e. possibly protection fee's.

Then again, just open up free trading. It would add to earths golden age.

Yes and you would be close enough that you could bring Tali home to visit Shepherd's mom (provided she is home on leave).

I thought he had no family.

Also, derp on mars thing. They could however help us dig.find anymore prothean artifacts. I bet that would cause diplomatic issues though, knowing the Alliance, they'll want to claim the artifact completeley.

oh the sh*tstorm insues.

[Himmelstor]

Commandr Bond wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

The Doctor is In.

Doctor *nods* long time no see

Not that long. Except for you.
Wonder why...
Requires research...

[FenixPendragon]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

alickar wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

alickar wrote...
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if ur speaking the way ur speakin then id bring about 50 dreadknoughts 500 battleships 200 cruisers and 40 light cruisers along if we start loosing battle bring turians in the battle

Now that's a fleet! Sadly humanity only currently has 8 dreadnaughts.

but everyone asari turians etc. are joining the fight against the reaperz

Not yet they haven't. The Council races may be allied but allies do not always get along and they most certainly do not always share the same points of view as to what to do, when to do it, where to do it nor how to do it. Then there's the politicking and each group trying to make sure they aren't losing out while the others gain something, etc. I find your naivety touching - and I mean no disrespect by that comment - yet sadly such solidarity is rare even when a common foe is incoming.

True they are behaving much they same way the League of Nations did just before WWII.

[sergio71785]

You know, here's kind of a sad, scary thought. According to the numbers posted, there's ~84 Dreadnoughts around. A Dreadnought is 1Km long.



Reapers (going by Sovereign's dimensions) are 2Km long, and there's....thousands of them. :/

[Lord_Moose]

Lets not forget that planet descriptions describe some tens of thousands of Geth Ships, presumably Good Geth. Otherwise the ships would just be disabled and could be reclaimed by the good geth.



And that the Migrant Fleet is composed of some 50 thousand ships, all of which have some form of defencive weaponry, though most have been converted to houseing ships.

[Iclonic]

Woo! Go Tali!

[Lord_Moose]

sergio71785 wrote...

You know, here's kind of a sad, scary thought. According to the numbers posted, there's ~84 Dreadnoughts around. A Dreadnought is 1Km long.

Reapers (going by Sovereign's dimensions) are 2Km long, and there's....thousands of them. :/

AND remember that Sovereign was not destroyed by a Dreadnought, it was destroyed by the 5th fleet and remaining citadel fleet.

[Darth Vengeant]

I want Tali in ME3 and female to female romance.

[SpatFieya]

Commandr Bond wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

I thought he had no family.

Also, derp on mars thing. They could however help us dig.find anymore prothean artifacts. I bet that would cause diplomatic issues though, knowing the Alliance, they'll want to claim the artifact completeley.

oh the sh*tstorm insues.

Well if youre a spacer you have a mom. My Shepard does

and welcome to politics! Its always this much fun

lol, I didn't know that.
"Hey mom, this is Tali!"
"What the hell is she wearing?"
"...It's a bio suit mom."
"Wtf don't tell me you're tapping that?"

I guess the Quarians are the red headed step-child of the galaxy..

shame.

Modifié par SpatFieya, 26 février 2010 - 04:11 .

[FenixPendragon]

Commandr Bond wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

I thought he had no family.

Also, derp on mars thing. They could however help us dig.find anymore prothean artifacts. I bet that would cause diplomatic issues though, knowing the Alliance, they'll want to claim the artifact completeley.

oh the sh*tstorm insues.

Well if youre a spacer you have a mom. My Shepard does

and welcome to politics! Its always this much fun

Yeah you can't respond to her e-mail asking if you are alive...pity.