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[SpatFieya]

Lord_Moose wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

Commandr Bond wrote...
Well if youre a spacer you have a mom. My Shepard does

and welcome to politics! Its always this much fun

lol, I didn't know that.
"Hey mom, this is Tali!"
"What the hell is she wearing?"
"...It's a bio suit mom."
"Wtf don't tell me you're tapping that?"

I guess the Quarians are the red headed step-child of the galaxy..

shame.

Spat...
Her child, the man who made her so proud, who has accomplished so much in life, Her Only Child Who She Thought Was DEAD, would come back to her, and you think she will say that?!?!
Shepard wont even have a moment to speak before his mother was wrapping her arms around him in a death squeeze, regulations be damned. (Your mother is also a high ranking officer aboard a dreanought)

Easy broskie, just j/k'n. When I played ME1 in the intro they said he had no Family.

All of this is news to me.

[Jake71887]

johnsb14 wrote...

I think quarians should get new respect for something in the 3rd game I am tiered of people always looking down on the quarians maybe start a war with geth or maybe if in your game legion lived let them start a peace treaty

People are understandably upset with them for the whole Geth thing, and not to mentions societies are generally nervous about nomads. Just look at how modern day gypsies are portrayed by most people. 

[videowiz186]

videowiz186 wrote...

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Read and comment. Will be appreciated.

In case missed.

[The_KFD_Case]

SpatFieya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Commandr Bond wrote...

While that proposal is ideal in nature, the Quarians have a habit of stripping whatever systems they pass through, and I don't think the Alliance would be too receptive of the Migrant Fleet coming to Sol.

Plus it'd be more benficial to them than to us, and humans have that habit of wanting more than just a warm feeling when they make deals. The alliance would be looking for something of use, and I'm not sure what the Quarians could give them.

Agreed. As mentioned in a previous post I would vote against such a proposition. I'd support helping the Quarians find a new world to colonize within Council space in an area that has not yet been developed.

Terraform mars. We're not using it anyways. Then they pay human taxes or w/e. possibly protection fee's.

Then again, just open up free trading. It would add to earths golden age.

I wouldn't want any alien species having a home world that close to our home world. Not if there is any other way and there certainly is given the many, many other planets around. Consider this: Where are the Quarians going to expand to once they have settled in nicely on Mars (presuming that's even possible for them)? Do they peacefully settle other planets away from  Alliance space or do they get in our way? Do we get in their way? Do conflicts erupt? And on and on it goes. No, I think a more equitable solution for both parties would be to help the Quarians establish themselves in a system or systems that they can then call their own, choose their own path (as the Geth advocate incidentally) and hopefully once more rejoin actively as productive and beneficial members in galactic society. "Good fences make for good neighbours", etc.

What are they going to do? Cough at us?

Given enough time they may do more than that. It is foolhardy to run such a needless risk when we can still gain the same advantages through active diplomatic, trade and personnel exchanges with the Quarians while they establish themselves in another system. You might be prepared to gamble with humanity's home and potential place in the galaxy for the sake of a relationship. I however am not.

[Bloodhuman1]

SpatFieya wrote...

Lord_Moose wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

Commandr Bond wrote...
Well if youre a spacer you have a mom. My Shepard does

and welcome to politics! Its always this much fun

lol, I didn't know that.
"Hey mom, this is Tali!"
"What the hell is she wearing?"
"...It's a bio suit mom."
"Wtf don't tell me you're tapping that?"

I guess the Quarians are the red headed step-child of the galaxy..

shame.

Spat...
Her child, the man who made her so proud, who has accomplished so much in life, Her Only Child Who She Thought Was DEAD, would come back to her, and you think she will say that?!?!
Shepard wont even have a moment to speak before his mother was wrapping her arms around him in a death squeeze, regulations be damned. (Your mother is also a high ranking officer aboard a dreanought)

Easy broskie, just j/k'n. When I played ME1 in the intro they said he had no Family.

All of this is news to me.

Is it unhealthy tapping a Bio Suit?

[Himmelstor]

Himmelstor wrote...

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[SpatFieya]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Commandr Bond wrote...

While that proposal is ideal in nature, the Quarians have a habit of stripping whatever systems they pass through, and I don't think the Alliance would be too receptive of the Migrant Fleet coming to Sol.

Plus it'd be more benficial to them than to us, and humans have that habit of wanting more than just a warm feeling when they make deals. The alliance would be looking for something of use, and I'm not sure what the Quarians could give them.

Agreed. As mentioned in a previous post I would vote against such a proposition. I'd support helping the Quarians find a new world to colonize within Council space in an area that has not yet been developed.

Terraform mars. We're not using it anyways. Then they pay human taxes or w/e. possibly protection fee's.

Then again, just open up free trading. It would add to earths golden age.

I wouldn't want any alien species having a home world that close to our home world. Not if there is any other way and there certainly is given the many, many other planets around. Consider this: Where are the Quarians going to expand to once they have settled in nicely on Mars (presuming that's even possible for them)? Do they peacefully settle other planets away from  Alliance space or do they get in our way? Do we get in their way? Do conflicts erupt? And on and on it goes. No, I think a more equitable solution for both parties would be to help the Quarians establish themselves in a system or systems that they can then call their own, choose their own path (as the Geth advocate incidentally) and hopefully once more rejoin actively as productive and beneficial members in galactic society. "Good fences make for good neighbours", etc.

What are they going to do? Cough at us?

Given enough time they may do more than that. It is foolhardy to run such a needless risk when we can still gain the same advantages through active diplomatic, trade and personnel exchanges with the Quarians while they establish themselves in another system. You might be prepared to gamble with humanity's home and potential place in the galaxy for the sake of a relationship. I however am not.

You win.

[The_KFD_Case]

Jake71887 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
Yep. Heretics using Reaper technology from Sovereign whom infected them with a virus after promising them to lead them to their future. This is what caused the split between the Geth and the Heretics. The Geth didn't want another species to show them a way to their future; they want to do that for themselves. 

They weren't infected with a virus I thought, thought it was a fault in their programming... The virus was what they were building to use against the true geth to change their runtimes to that of the heretics... 

As I understood it when Sovereign approached the Geth promising them to show them new technology and a way to their future, some of the Geth wanted to be led. These Geth became the Heretics. IIRC Legion mentions during its loyalty mission that Sovereign then releases a virus amongst those Geth which changes their runtimes making them conclude that all organic life must be eradicated.

[vykvyper1]

okay... gonna re-post this... the submit box crapped out a while ago and page 691 disappeared:blink:
cleared my cache and things seem to be nice and updated woot.

anyway here's what I was attempting to post... enjoy:

earlier I said:
maybe it's just me, but Legion never seemed that threatening nor did he
seem suspicious ('cept for the n7 armor). I see peace with the Geth as
the logical option. With the heretics re-written/deleted I don't see
peace as being as difficult to attain than previously thought. I mean,
why did the Geth seek out Shepard? Perhaps they see war as we see it: a
futile and infantile hatred that will leave us as easy prey for the
Reapers. A war between the Quarians and the Geth would eventually
involve the council races leading to catastrophic losses on both sides
and the possible extermination of the Quarians--plus hatred for the (if
any) surviving Quarians among the other races.

and what about
Haestrom? The dying sun wasn't due to the Geth. Reapers? maybe. What if
it's a secret weapon resulting from Quarian research? Rael'Zorah was
responsible for some horrible experiments after all. Daro'Xen isn't
much better with her delusional megalomania.

The Geth have
something only synthetics have: the ability to not hold a grudge.
Legion said "We do not experience fear but we know how it affects you".
The Quarians experience an aimless hatred that has been generations
removed from its source...

We're all discussing this in an
effort to figure out a way to save Tali and live happily ever after.
Eh? Tali is the key to this. She hates the Geth for exiling her race,
but she sees them as sapient beings. She also sees how a lust for war
can destroy a family... it destroyed hers.

she has influence
among her people, and may even become an admiral. However, though very
gifted in engineering, Tali is very impressionable. Therefore, it is up
to us (Shepard) to shape her young mind into that of a champion of
peace, or a vanguard of her own peoples' destruction...

[tiberius_adamantine]

I personally don't trust the geth.

[Jake71887]

The_KFD_Case wrote...
As I understood it when Sovereign approached the Geth promising them to show them new technology and a way to their future, some of the Geth wanted to be led. These Geth became the Heretics. IIRC Legion mentions during its loyalty mission that Sovereign then releases a virus amongst those Geth which changes their runtimes making them conclude that all organic life must be eradicated.

The only mention of a virus I recall, was the one the heretics were working on, and had just completed by the time you entered the station. 

[alickar]

i want to smash there little steel heads with my foot >)

[vykvyper1]

wow... how did all those wonky linebreaks get in my post O_o

[The_KFD_Case]

Jake71887 wrote...

johnsb14 wrote...

I think quarians should get new respect for something in the 3rd game I am tiered of people always looking down on the quarians maybe start a war with geth or maybe if in your game legion lived let them start a peace treaty

People are understandably upset with them for the whole Geth thing, and not to mentions societies are generally nervous about nomads. Just look at how modern day gypsies are portrayed by most people. 

It doesn't help that the Quarians have a tendency to strip mine anything they can get their hands on in a system unless encouraged with gifts by the local authorities to go elsewhere.

[The_KFD_Case]

Commandr Bond wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Commandr Bond wrote...

Well if youre a spacer you have a mom. My Shepard does

and welcome to politics! Its always this much fun

It has its moments. One of the reasons I chose to pursue two university degrees in it.

How do you withstand the futility of it??

I think my problem is that I have zero efficacy.

Well, I'm not currently active in politics though perhaps some day I may make that leap. Still, politics affects everyone from the price of the bread you buy to whom is elected. Also, there's politics/psychology wherever humans gather be it family gatherings, friends, the workplace, the battlefield, etc.

And on that note I'm heading to bed. Keelah se'lai one and all!

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 26 février 2010 - 04:31 .

[Lord_Moose]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

I wouldn't want any alien species having a home world that close to our home world. Not if there is any other way and there certainly is given the many, many other planets around. Consider this: Where are the Quarians going to expand to once they have settled in nicely on Mars (presuming that's even possible for them)? Do they peacefully settle other planets away from  Alliance space or do they get in our way? Do we get in their way? Do conflicts erupt? And on and on it goes. No, I think a more equitable solution for both parties would be to help the Quarians establish themselves in a system or systems that they can then call their own, choose their own path (as the Geth advocate incidentally) and hopefully once more rejoin actively as productive and beneficial members in galactic society. "Good fences make for good neighbours", etc.

What are they going to do? Cough at us?

Given enough time they may do more than that. It is foolhardy to run such a needless risk when we can still gain the same advantages through active diplomatic, trade and personnel exchanges with the Quarians while they establish themselves in another system. You might be prepared to gamble with humanity's home and potential place in the galaxy for the sake of a relationship. I however am not.

Agreed.
Terra Ferma and other Pro-Human political groups/terrorist groups would NEVER allow an alien race within the local cluster for that long, and personally, i dont want to be laying on the grass in some wonderful park on Earth with Tali as night, enjoying a romantic nighttime picnic to see a bright flash of light, caused from a monumental explosion as those group blow up a life ship above mars, killing hundreds of thousands.

[alickar]

Lord_Moose wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

I wouldn't want any alien species having a home world that close to our home world. Not if there is any other way and there certainly is given the many, many other planets around. Consider this: Where are the Quarians going to expand to once they have settled in nicely on Mars (presuming that's even possible for them)? Do they peacefully settle other planets away from  Alliance space or do they get in our way? Do we get in their way? Do conflicts erupt? And on and on it goes. No, I think a more equitable solution for both parties would be to help the Quarians establish themselves in a system or systems that they can then call their own, choose their own path (as the Geth advocate incidentally) and hopefully once more rejoin actively as productive and beneficial members in galactic society. "Good fences make for good neighbours", etc.

What are they going to do? Cough at us?

Given enough time they may do more than that. It is foolhardy to run such a needless risk when we can still gain the same advantages through active diplomatic, trade and personnel exchanges with the Quarians while they establish themselves in another system. You might be prepared to gamble with humanity's home and potential place in the galaxy for the sake of a relationship. I however am not.

Agreed.
Terra Ferma and other Pro-Human political groups/terrorist groups would NEVER allow an alien race within the local cluster for that long, and personally, i dont want to be laying on the grass in some wonderful park on Earth with Tali as night, enjoying a romantic nighttime picnic to see a bright flash of light, caused from a monumental explosion as those group blow up a life ship above mars, killing hundreds of thousands.

if i saw tht id get into the normandy and kill the ship tht blowed the other one up

[Himmelstor]

Commandr Bond wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

I personally don't trust the geth.

I think it's pretty logical to trust them. From what legion says their one goal seems to be to exist, and they have no reason to betray us because starting a war with the whole galaxy would be counter productive to the one goal they wish to achieve.

unless another virus crops up

Only if Legion is to be trusted.
Will reserve judgement.

[SpatFieya]

Lord_Moose wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

I wouldn't want any alien species having a home world that close to our home world. Not if there is any other way and there certainly is given the many, many other planets around. Consider this: Where are the Quarians going to expand to once they have settled in nicely on Mars (presuming that's even possible for them)? Do they peacefully settle other planets away from  Alliance space or do they get in our way? Do we get in their way? Do conflicts erupt? And on and on it goes. No, I think a more equitable solution for both parties would be to help the Quarians establish themselves in a system or systems that they can then call their own, choose their own path (as the Geth advocate incidentally) and hopefully once more rejoin actively as productive and beneficial members in galactic society. "Good fences make for good neighbours", etc.

What are they going to do? Cough at us?

Given enough time they may do more than that. It is foolhardy to run such a needless risk when we can still gain the same advantages through active diplomatic, trade and personnel exchanges with the Quarians while they establish themselves in another system. You might be prepared to gamble with humanity's home and potential place in the galaxy for the sake of a relationship. I however am not.

Agreed.
Terra Ferma and other Pro-Human political groups/terrorist groups would NEVER allow an alien race within the local cluster for that long, and personally, i dont want to be laying on the grass in some wonderful park on Earth with Tali as night, enjoying a romantic nighttime picnic to see a bright flash of light, caused from a monumental explosion as those group blow up a life ship above mars, killing hundreds of thousands.

Damn, didn't even think about that.

I think KFD is right, the best way is through diplomatic solutions.

[FenixPendragon]

vykvyper1 wrote...

okay... gonna re-post this... the submit box crapped out a while ago and page 691 disappeared:blink:
cleared my cache and things seem to be nice and updated woot.

anyway here's what I was attempting to post... enjoy:

earlier I said:
maybe it's just me, but Legion never seemed that threatening nor did he
seem suspicious ('cept for the n7 armor). I see peace with the Geth as
the logical option. With the heretics re-written/deleted I don't see
peace as being as difficult to attain than previously thought. I mean,
why did the Geth seek out Shepard? Perhaps they see war as we see it: a
futile and infantile hatred that will leave us as easy prey for the
Reapers. A war between the Quarians and the Geth would eventually
involve the council races leading to catastrophic losses on both sides
and the possible extermination of the Quarians--plus hatred for the (if
any) surviving Quarians among the other races.

and what about
Haestrom? The dying sun wasn't due to the Geth. Reapers? maybe. What if
it's a secret weapon resulting from Quarian research? Rael'Zorah was
responsible for some horrible experiments after all. Daro'Xen isn't
much better with her delusional megalomania.

The Geth have
something only synthetics have: the ability to not hold a grudge.
Legion said "We do not experience fear but we know how it affects you".
The Quarians experience an aimless hatred that has been generations
removed from its source...

We're all discussing this in an
effort to figure out a way to save Tali and live happily ever after.
Eh? Tali is the key to this. She hates the Geth for exiling her race,
but she sees them as sapient beings. She also sees how a lust for war
can destroy a family... it destroyed hers.

she has influence
among her people, and may even become an admiral. However, though very
gifted in engineering, Tali is very impressionable. Therefore, it is up
to us (Shepard) to shape her young mind into that of a champion of
peace, or a vanguard of her own peoples' destruction...

This is the most sensible post so far and the most likely to be true in ME3.