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[alickar]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

Anyway, I'm going to keep defending the good name of the Quarian armed forces, regardless of naysayers.

But I need sleep
Good night and Keelah Se'Lai

bye

[videowiz186]

Last Shameless Self Promotion for night!

Salvation or Destruction Part 11 up in blog!

Read and comment. Will be appreciated.

[Himmelstor]

runescapeguy9 wrote...

I think I'm going to be heading off soon. May lurk for a bit but probably last post for tonight.
Keelah Se'lai. May Tali be with us all.

Keelah Se'lai, my friend!

[camoboy_19]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Varthun wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

The Quarians must have a good military fleet. Their marines suck. Kal can't carry the entire race militarily. They might be better at sabotage or hacking in their military tactics, but they do say that their strength is in their fleet. We have only seen a glimpse of the massive fleet that carries the Quarian race. I figured for a straight up bullets and battery war ship they would use more hit and run tactics.

I still dont think there current fleet would be much good in war. Maybe if they got a lot of resources and could build fresh new ships.

Well, other than their ships being older makes than current ships (which if they're at all modular like the SR2 was, might not mean anything), and having a weak infantry force, what are you basing your opinion of them having a weak fleet on?

The fact that all the ships are centuries old, and used primarily for housing not fighting. All those old ships couldnt possible stand up against modern ships, or against the geth.

Yeah well the issue is that they dont have the quality you demand because they do not have a base of operations on any planet, resources, time, etc. But even if these ships are old think of it as the Russian Tactic as the German Army advanced: It eventually became a fact of enviroment and numbers, since Russia had few factories and was somewhat new to Industrialization. I mean it doesn't matter how old it is if you see 1,000 guns on you from WW2 you are going to give up

[Skadhi1]

Raphael diSanto wrote...

They tell me you're dead.

Part of me doesn't believe it, refuses to believe it. But the other part of me saw the Normandy explode. I watched it all, from the tiny little porthole window in the escape pod. So close, and yet so far away. Close enough to imagine for just one second that I could have saved you. We saw the final pod jettison, and when the Alliance frigates came to collect us I was so sure that you would be on it, with Joker. I was so sure, Shepard.

But I was wrong. Joker said he saw you get thrown out into space. There's a part of me that knows you must be dead. The engineer in me, the part that knows that a Hughes-Mystromm Field Converter will always run thirty percent hotter under load and it doesn't care how much you wish for it not to. Physics is an unforgiving master, Shepard.

But I still dream. I still hope. Hope was all we had left in those few final days before Ilos. Hope was the gift you gave to us. You taught us how to hope again. All of us. Garrus, Joker, everyone on the Normandy. There was no hope. Not really. Not after we learned what Soverign was. What the Reapers were. What we faced. It was no surprise that Saren accepted his fate. How can one fight a god? But you gave us that hope. Your absolute refusal to give up, to stop, to roll over and die.

You humans have a saying. Where there's life, there's hope. Until I traveled with you to Ilos and fought beside you on the Citadel I never truly understood that. But I understand now. In order to have a change of fortunes at the last minute, you must push your fortunes to the last minute. I still hope, Shepard. I know there can be none, but still I hope. You taught me that.

You will never read this letter. Just know that in the heart of this one small, insignificant Quarian traveler you will never be forgotten. All of the things I wanted to say that were unsaid between us. All of the things I wanted to do that were not done. They will exist here, always, as will you.

I love you. I did not realize how much until it was too late. Too late for us. But maybe not too late for hope.

Come back to me, Shepard.

I'm still hoping.

That really is superb.  Thank you.

[Jake71887]

Varthun wrote...

Excepting that if they're modular they could very well have current tech for weapons, and armor reinforcements. Making a ship capable of housing people just means you clear out the cargo bay, not that you make the ship incapable of fighting.

Separating civilian and military ships seems a wise course of action though, depending on future military doctrines. Think of modern day civilian targets in wars, hospitals and such, they're generally avoided by military strikes.

[PMorgan18]

Hurrah page 700. Maybe we can get to 1000 pages again.

[Varthun]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Varthun wrote...

Excepting that if they're modular they could very well have current tech for weapons, and armor reinforcements. Making a ship capable of housing people just means you clear out the cargo bay, not that you make the ship incapable of fighting.

So they could fight but you honestly think they could win a fight against say the Turians or Alliance or the Geth?

Against the Geth? Probably not, considering they have an infinite number of troops and ships. Turians, it would depend on who else came to back them up. Alliance? Meh. Depends on who threw their hands in as well. If Cerberus reached in to help, probably not.

But the point was that they're not weak. Being incapable of completely wiping out an opposing force (which is what I'm assuming you mean by "win") doesn't dictate strength. Especially considering that the people you're listing have the ability to fabricate new ships, which would simply bleed the Quarian fleet dry, regardless of how well they performed.

Modifié par Varthun, 26 février 2010 - 05:37 .

[vykvyper1]

here's one featuring Tali and Wrex:



http://fc03.devianta...anceliberty.jpg



and with that i'm going to bed

[SpatFieya]

Sweet 700 pages



k, bed time now

[Jake71887]

SpatFieya wrote...
Good point. This makes me wonder how it's going to play out in ME3. A peace treaty does seem more plausible. I guess we'll have to wait for ME3 for that though (Damnit).

Anyways, man, badass conversation. You know your stuff pretty good, I'll give you that. Kept me on my toes, lol. I have to get to bed here though, I'll see you guys later.

I've said this a few times: If they go the route of DA:O and have you recruit groups of people for the war... It'll probably boil down to:
Helping defeat the Geth so Quarians are focused solely on the reapers
Helping the Geth
Or brokering peace between both.

[videowiz186]

vykvyper1 wrote...

here's one featuring Tali and Wrex:

http://fc03.devianta...anceliberty.jpg

and with that i'm going to bed

Keelah Se'lai, my friend!

[alickar]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

Well, it's about 11:40 PM over here in The Lone Star State, (excluding El Paso, where it's still 10:40)
So I'm signing off!

Keehla Se'Lai and Entaro Tassadar.

bye

[videowiz186]

Keelah Se'lai to all leaving.

[Scy Lancer]

Varthun wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Varthun wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

The Quarians must have a good military fleet. Their marines suck. Kal can't carry the entire race militarily. They might be better at sabotage or hacking in their military tactics, but they do say that their strength is in their fleet. We have only seen a glimpse of the massive fleet that carries the Quarian race. I figured for a straight up bullets and battery war ship they would use more hit and run tactics.

I still dont think there current fleet would be much good in war. Maybe if they got a lot of resources and could build fresh new ships.

Well, other than their ships being older makes than current ships (which if they're at all modular like the SR2 was, might not mean anything), and having a weak infantry force, what are you basing your opinion of them having a weak fleet on?

The fact that all the ships are centuries old, and used primarily for housing not fighting. All those old ships couldnt possible stand up against modern ships, or against the geth.

Excepting that if they're modular they could very well have current tech for weapons, and armor reinforcements. Making a ship capable of housing people just means you clear out the cargo bay, not that you make the ship incapable of fighting.

Just because most of the original fleet is centuries old doesn't mean they all are. They say that they buy new ships from other races....Qwib Qwib...

[Varthun]

Jake71887 wrote...

Varthun wrote...

Excepting that if they're modular they could very well have current tech for weapons, and armor reinforcements. Making a ship capable of housing people just means you clear out the cargo bay, not that you make the ship incapable of fighting.

Separating civilian and military ships seems a wise course of action though, depending on future military doctrines. Think of modern day civilian targets in wars, hospitals and such, they're generally avoided by military strikes.

Considering most quarians have an aptitude for engineering (which in an environment as governed by tech as a space age would be, is a pretty dangerous quality), they would probably all be classified as military targets.

Perhaps not so to the Quarians, but most likely to any other fleet. When a "civilian" can hop on a shuttle and go repair a system you just took the time to bomb out, it kind of paints them all with the same target on their back.

Modifié par Varthun, 26 février 2010 - 05:40 .

[cannedcream]

PMorgan18 wrote...

Hurrah page 700. Maybe we can get to 1000 pages again.

That's very possible. At the insane rate everyone here posts, we might just hit 1000 by tomorrow.

I can't keep up with you guys! You're making my puny dial-up connection cry!

[Jake71887]

Varthun wrote...

Considering most quarians have an aptitude for engineering (which in an environment as governed by tech as a space age would be, is a pretty dangerous quality), they would probably all be classified as military targets.

Perhaps not so to the Quarians, but most likely to any other fleet. When a "civilian" can hop on a shuttle and go repair a system you just took the time to bomb out, it kind of paints them all with the same target on their back.

Being able to repair something, is not the same as being able to operate it.. That being said, we do know some ships are designated strictly as schools and living, etc... I'm sure all quarians are genius' but I doubt a kid's going to go into a battle to repair the main guns. 

[Varthun]

Somebody1003 wrote...

I'll admit that they have a huge fleet that is somewhat powerful but I just cant currently see them doing much with it besides using it as living space. If they could find a real home then they could make that fleet really powerful. I just think that currently they cant do to much since they need those ships to live in.

They can't do much and still survive, that's probably true. It would also probably be correct to insinuate that they need those ships for survival. However, in an event that you will either perish during, or immediately afterwards, they could probably pull quite a bit of their weight in a combat situation.

[cannedcream]

Skadhi1 wrote...

Raphael diSanto wrote...

They tell me you're dead.

Part of me doesn't believe it, refuses to believe it. But the other part of me saw the Normandy explode. I watched it all, from the tiny little porthole window in the escape pod. So close, and yet so far away. Close enough to imagine for just one second that I could have saved you. We saw the final pod jettison, and when the Alliance frigates came to collect us I was so sure that you would be on it, with Joker. I was so sure, Shepard.

But I was wrong. Joker said he saw you get thrown out into space. There's a part of me that knows you must be dead. The engineer in me, the part that knows that a Hughes-Mystromm Field Converter will always run thirty percent hotter under load and it doesn't care how much you wish for it not to. Physics is an unforgiving master, Shepard.

But I still dream. I still hope. Hope was all we had left in those few final days before Ilos. Hope was the gift you gave to us. You taught us how to hope again. All of us. Garrus, Joker, everyone on the Normandy. There was no hope. Not really. Not after we learned what Soverign was. What the Reapers were. What we faced. It was no surprise that Saren accepted his fate. How can one fight a god? But you gave us that hope. Your absolute refusal to give up, to stop, to roll over and die.

You humans have a saying. Where there's life, there's hope. Until I traveled with you to Ilos and fought beside you on the Citadel I never truly understood that. But I understand now. In order to have a change of fortunes at the last minute, you must push your fortunes to the last minute. I still hope, Shepard. I know there can be none, but still I hope. You taught me that.

You will never read this letter. Just know that in the heart of this one small, insignificant Quarian traveler you will never be forgotten. All of the things I wanted to say that were unsaid between us. All of the things I wanted to do that were not done. They will exist here, always, as will you.

I love you. I did not realize how much until it was too late. Too late for us. But maybe not too late for hope.

Come back to me, Shepard.

I'm still hoping.

That really is superb.  Thank you.

Beautiful. <3