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[wolfstanus]

sergio71785 wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

HereticSon wrote...

LexRage wrote...






My dream....I want an ending like this !

would prefer a place more homey on the background than the citadel tho ^^ 

Ah a veil on her veil... redundency

Her "veil" is her mask, and I made sure the veil didn't cover her visor. 

I was talking about the purple veil covering her helmet.

[Archonsg]

wolfstanus wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

My fear of what would stand in the way of Shepard's and Tali having a wedding is both humans and quarians governments would object on the grounds that they both cannot reproduce and thus a marriage between them would remove two of the best examples of each race from the gene pool. Or something like that. I mean wouldn't the Quarians object since Tali is a healthy female and I believe quite capable of bearing children if she choose to join with another quarian.
If the war between the Geth and the Quarian do happen, I would imagine that the quarians would want to replace lost population and Tali's lineage would definitely be one to be desired no?

I think they would give both the middle finger and get married anyways....

Ya I know, but I am just thinking of a more "hard line 1984" approach by either side. Both governments can make life difficult if not next to impossible if they so choose. Shepard and Tali would have to live in a world where their marriage isn't one of happy bliss but they are both looked upon as "betraying" their own race.

Regardless, don't you think that there will be fanatics and (moronic) genetic "purists" who looks upon their union as the worst thing to happen in their lifetime and would probably work to assassinate one or both of them to "cleanse" the blight that they percieve their marriage to be? I mean, these people could probably care less if it was normal joe shmoe and quarian girl x, but when it comes to the two most prominant of both races....who knows?
We humans ourselves are just learning to accept marriage between difference racial *human* stock, and even then, prejudice happens.

[HereticSon]

Phil725 wrote...

I can't see keeping the population stable being any concern, their concern is overpopulation, not underpopulation. They could just let someone else have two kids to compensate.

That said, I would also think that the quarian government could see the diplomatic benefits of the whole situation. Nothing says "respect our race again," like having one of your people marry the hero of the galaxy.

Agreed.

[MMA7FF]

Phil725 wrote...

I can't see keeping the population stable being any concern, their concern is overpopulation, not underpopulation. They could just let someone else have two kids to compensate.

That said, I would also think that the quarian government could see the diplomatic benefits of the whole situation. Nothing says "respect our race again," like having one of your people marry the hero of the galaxy.

damn straight i was just thinking that

[HereticSon]

Archonsg wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

My fear of what would stand in the way of Shepard's and Tali having a wedding is both humans and quarians governments would object on the grounds that they both cannot reproduce and thus a marriage between them would remove two of the best examples of each race from the gene pool. Or something like that. I mean wouldn't the Quarians object since Tali is a healthy female and I believe quite capable of bearing children if she choose to join with another quarian.
If the war between the Geth and the Quarian do happen, I would imagine that the quarians would want to replace lost population and Tali's lineage would definitely be one to be desired no?

I think they would give both the middle finger and get married anyways....

Ya I know, but I am just thinking of a more "hard line 1984" approach by either side. Both governments can make life difficult if not next to impossible if they so choose. Shepard and Tali would have to live in a world where their marriage isn't one of happy bliss but they are both looked upon as "betraying" their own race.

Regardless, don't you think that there will be fanatics and (moronic) genetic "purists" who looks upon their union as the worst thing to happen in their lifetime and would probably work to assassinate one or both of them to "cleanse" the blight that they percieve their marriage to be? I mean, these people could probably care less if it was normal joe shmoe and quarian girl x, but when it comes to the two most prominant of both races....who knows?
We humans ourselves are just learning to accept marriage between difference racial *human* stock, and even then, prejudice happens.

I can imagine Cerberus or Terra Firma being not so happy about it, might well try to do some "cleaning up"

[sergio71785]

Another reason that the Quarians make like the idea of Tali + Shepard, Shepard is basically a shoe in to be on the council one day, probably right after Anderson retires/passes away too.

[wolfstanus]

Archonsg wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

My fear of what would stand in the way of Shepard's and Tali having a wedding is both humans and quarians governments would object on the grounds that they both cannot reproduce and thus a marriage between them would remove two of the best examples of each race from the gene pool. Or something like that. I mean wouldn't the Quarians object since Tali is a healthy female and I believe quite capable of bearing children if she choose to join with another quarian.
If the war between the Geth and the Quarian do happen, I would imagine that the quarians would want to replace lost population and Tali's lineage would definitely be one to be desired no?

I think they would give both the middle finger and get married anyways....

Ya I know, but I am just thinking of a more "hard line 1984" approach by either side. Both governments can make life difficult if not next to impossible if they so choose. Shepard and Tali would have to live in a world where their marriage isn't one of happy bliss but they are both looked upon as "betraying" their own race.

Regardless, don't you think that there will be fanatics and (moronic) genetic "purists" who looks upon their union as the worst thing to happen in their lifetime and would probably work to assassinate one or both of them to "cleanse" the blight that they percieve their marriage to be? I mean, these people could probably care less if it was normal joe shmoe and quarian girl x, but when it comes to the two most prominant of both races....who knows?
We humans ourselves are just learning to accept marriage between difference racial *human* stock, and even then, prejudice happens.

We have them now so they would exist in the future racism genetic biast and all that jazz will never go away. I think people would think twice before pissing shep off... I mean look what he has done and gone through... I think even TiM is afraid of him in some way.

[Phil725]

Archonsg wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

My fear of what would stand in the way of Shepard's and Tali having a wedding is both humans and quarians governments would object on the grounds that they both cannot reproduce and thus a marriage between them would remove two of the best examples of each race from the gene pool. Or something like that. I mean wouldn't the Quarians object since Tali is a healthy female and I believe quite capable of bearing children if she choose to join with another quarian.
If the war between the Geth and the Quarian do happen, I would imagine that the quarians would want to replace lost population and Tali's lineage would definitely be one to be desired no?

I think they would give both the middle finger and get married anyways....

Ya I know, but I am just thinking of a more "hard line 1984" approach by either side. Both governments can make life difficult if not next to impossible if they so choose. Shepard and Tali would have to live in a world where their marriage isn't one of happy bliss but they are both looked upon as "betraying" their own race.

Regardless, don't you think that there will be fanatics and (moronic) genetic "purists" who looks upon their union as the worst thing to happen in their lifetime and would probably work to assassinate one or both of them to "cleanse" the blight that they percieve their marriage to be? I mean, these people could probably care less if it was normal joe shmoe and quarian girl x, but when it comes to the two most prominant of both races....who knows?
We humans ourselves are just learning to accept marriage between difference racial *human* stock, and even then, prejudice happens.

I would counter that by saying that the Mass Effect universe is incredibly open towards interspecies relationships.  No one cares about any in the game, and they are encouraged in the case of Asari.  Comparing real life situations is flawed because it isn't real life.  Also, Tali and Shep aren't fighting against thousands of reapers and then getting picked off by a fanatic.  Kinetic shields exist in this world, and I have faith that Bioware wouldn't be that sadistic.

As far as governments, they can control what people do in 1984, not in Mass Effect.  The Alliance has no control outside council space, and the quarian government has no control outside the flotilla.

If one or both parties is completely ungrateful towards Tali/Shep and tries to stand in their way (would never happen,) they still have millions of lightyears of real estate to choose from.

[Archonsg]

BTW, if I haven't mentioned it yet. I love you guys.

*Decent*, thoughtful, and actual meaningful discussions rather then spaming junk to move the thread.

Though, fun , thoughtful and SFW tali pics are of course always welcomed.

[wolfstanus]

Archonsg wrote...

BTW, if I haven't mentioned it yet. I love you guys.
*Decent*, thoughtful, and actual meaningful discussions rather then spaming junk to move the thread.
Though, fun , thoughtful and SFW tali pics are of course always welcomed.

Well crap now I have to post a rule 34 tali pic to do some crazy ivan 4chan combo braker.

[Archonsg]

@ Wolf and Phil



I guess I was just thinking back to Viconia.

They did kill her off ......

[sergio71785]

Well, time for me to make like a Reaper and hibernate for 50,000 years.



And by hibernate I mean sleep. And by 50,0000 years I mean 7 hours.





Goodnight!

[wolfstanus]

Archonsg wrote...

@ Wolf and Phil

I guess I was just thinking back to Viconia.
They did kill her off ......

Sorry im very tired and missed what you were saying also was joking. about rule 34... seen to much and can't unsee them....

[HereticSon]

Archonsg wrote...

BTW, if I haven't mentioned it yet. I love you guys.
*Decent*, thoughtful, and actual meaningful discussions rather then spaming junk to move the thread.
Though, fun , thoughtful and SFW tali pics are of course always welcomed.

Thank you for your kind words, and I'm happy to agree on that; this thread's got lots of fantastic people, and our discussions vary from A to Z, still including lots of thoughts, ideas and humor. Besides, we have lots of great writers here, people who draw and paint stunning pictures and people like Jake to fulfill our daily need of half-naked and revealing ladies, Tali included.

Cheers to us, ladies and gentlemen, there's no thread like ours! Keelah Se'lai !

Modifié par HereticSon, 26 février 2010 - 10:07 .

[Archonsg]

sergio71785 wrote...

Another reason that the Quarians make like the idea of Tali + Shepard, Shepard is basically a shoe in to be on the council one day, probably right after Anderson retires/passes away too.

Ya that was what I suggested when Revankun asked about what we thought about Tali's / Shepard's marriage.
To repeat, personally i thought that it won't be just a "quarian" or 'human" affair, if anything because of what they have done, it'll be a full blown galactic event. On Rannoch. At an old but grand outdoor Quarian temple, with asari bridesmaids, human and quarian honor guards in full military dress giving the couple a full 100 (or 1000) "Arc of Steel" sabre salute. The Quarians will regain status back into council space and all rights regained for their actions in the Reaper war.

[SgTKilmor]

sergio71785 wrote...

Well, time for me to make like a Reaper and hibernate for 50,000 years.

And by hibernate I mean sleep. And by 50,0000 years I mean 7 hours.


Goodnight!

See ya Sergio, I think I too, am going to retire for the night.

Keelah Se'lai friends.

[DreadvasNormandy]

Phil725 wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

My fear of what would stand in the way of Shepard's and Tali having a wedding is both humans and quarians governments would object on the grounds that they both cannot reproduce and thus a marriage between them would remove two of the best examples of each race from the gene pool. Or something like that. I mean wouldn't the Quarians object since Tali is a healthy female and I believe quite capable of bearing children if she choose to join with another quarian.
If the war between the Geth and the Quarian do happen, I would imagine that the quarians would want to replace lost population and Tali's lineage would definitely be one to be desired no?

I think they would give both the middle finger and get married anyways....

Ya I know, but I am just thinking of a more "hard line 1984" approach by either side. Both governments can make life difficult if not next to impossible if they so choose. Shepard and Tali would have to live in a world where their marriage isn't one of happy bliss but they are both looked upon as "betraying" their own race.

Regardless, don't you think that there will be fanatics and (moronic) genetic "purists" who looks upon their union as the worst thing to happen in their lifetime and would probably work to assassinate one or both of them to "cleanse" the blight that they percieve their marriage to be? I mean, these people could probably care less if it was normal joe shmoe and quarian girl x, but when it comes to the two most prominant of both races....who knows?
We humans ourselves are just learning to accept marriage between difference racial *human* stock, and even then, prejudice happens.

I would counter that by saying that the Mass Effect universe is incredibly open towards interspecies relationships.  No one cares about any in the game, and they are encouraged in the case of Asari.  Comparing real life situations is flawed because it isn't real life.  Also, Tali and Shep aren't fighting against thousands of reapers and then getting picked off by a fanatic.  Kinetic shields exist in this world, and I have faith that Bioware wouldn't be that sadistic.

As far as governments, they can control what people do in 1984, not in Mass Effect.  The Alliance has no control outside council space, and the quarian government has no control outside the flotilla.

If one or both parties is completely ungrateful towards Tali/Shep and tries to stand in their way (would never happen,) they still have millions of lightyears of real estate to choose from.

Actually I was discussing this line of thought here - http://social.biowar...iscussion/4731/

Marriage-wise it should be something of an official blessing between the people Shepard and Tali knows. Between the Alliance and the Migrant Fleet would be great on all levels. Getting the Council favor, or Cerberus favor, isn't much concern. As long as those close to both accept it a reception could be held with a ceremony.

Where to hold it would be some head-scratching. I no doubt believe if Shepard popped the question Tali would jump out her suit in joy. Tali proposing would be also pretty sweet if you had the choice to reply ingame (see we can even please Tali haters too!). I suggest perhaps Ilium or a remote planet paradise but somewhere where both the Alliance and the Migrant Fleet have access to. It'd probably be a private event. 

For story purposes, yeah, we could have people try to assassinate during the ceremony...it could be its own mini-event in the game!

ME3's role regarding romance should be on these lines. In ME1 we had players experience a Shepard (male in this paragraph swap out gender pronoun if female Shepard is in mind) who has some experience with women but none serious. In ME2 the same could be said. If ME3 doesn't show some progression Shepard will always looks nothing more than a guy unable to have a real relationship and forever drift from one romance to the next. It'd be unfair on him, the players, and whoever he romances.

Like I've said in the thread attached here a lot of Bioware's staff involves happily-married couples (and possibly threesomes)

[Lareit]

Archonsg wrote...

@ Wolf and Phil

I guess I was just thinking back to Viconia.
They did kill her off ......

Lies!

I went back in time, Killed Lloth and then lived happily ever after.

I mean, after killing everything else my guy did a God doesn't seem so impossible.

[MMA7FF]

sergio71785 wrote...

Well, time for me to make like a Reaper and hibernate for 50,000 years.

And by hibernate I mean sleep. And by 50,0000 years I mean 7 hours.


Goodnight!

keelah sel'ai

[wolfstanus]

Archonsg wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

Another reason that the Quarians make like the idea of Tali + Shepard, Shepard is basically a shoe in to be on the council one day, probably right after Anderson retires/passes away too.

Ya that was what I suggested when Revankun asked about what we thought about Tali's / Shepard's marriage.
To repeat, personally i thought that it won't be just a "quarian" or 'human" affair, if anything because of what they have done, it'll be a full blown galactic event. On Rannoch. At an old but grand outdoor Quarian temple, with asari bridesmaids, human and quarian honor guards in full military dress giving the couple a full 100 (or 1000) "Arc of Steel" sabre salute. The Quarians will regain status back into council space and all rights regained for their actions in the Reaper war.

ah ok... That would be a paragon ending indeed.

[DreadvasNormandy]

wolfstanus wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

Another reason that the Quarians make like the idea of Tali + Shepard, Shepard is basically a shoe in to be on the council one day, probably right after Anderson retires/passes away too.

Ya that was what I suggested when Revankun asked about what we thought about Tali's / Shepard's marriage.
To repeat, personally i thought that it won't be just a "quarian" or 'human" affair, if anything because of what they have done, it'll be a full blown galactic event. On Rannoch. At an old but grand outdoor Quarian temple, with asari bridesmaids, human and quarian honor guards in full military dress giving the couple a full 100 (or 1000) "Arc of Steel" sabre salute. The Quarians will regain status back into council space and all rights regained for their actions in the Reaper war.

ah ok... That would be a paragon ending indeed.

Rannoch, being the Quarian homeworld, assumes the Geth have relinquished it. Speaking of Paragon choices would the only way to truly beat the Geth is to ally with them? Alexander the Great logic kicking in right there!

Good we have the location, the participants, now we need Bioware's blessing. Keelah Se'lai!

[Lareit]

wolfstanus wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

Another reason that the Quarians make like the idea of Tali + Shepard, Shepard is basically a shoe in to be on the council one day, probably right after Anderson retires/passes away too.

Ya that was what I suggested when Revankun asked about what we thought about Tali's / Shepard's marriage.
To repeat, personally i thought that it won't be just a "quarian" or 'human" affair, if anything because of what they have done, it'll be a full blown galactic event. On Rannoch. At an old but grand outdoor Quarian temple, with asari bridesmaids, human and quarian honor guards in full military dress giving the couple a full 100 (or 1000) "Arc of Steel" sabre salute. The Quarians will regain status back into council space and all rights regained for their actions in the Reaper war.

ah ok... That would be a paragon ending indeed.

**** the council. I plan to reform the galatic government.

[HK01]

MMA7FF wrote...

HereticSon wrote...

sounds good  both ME's are true masterpieces, never been so hooked by a game (or games) before.
Aw hell, I even got hooked by Dragon Age, BG 2 and SW: KOTOR. Damn you Bioware (in a positive meaning)

see i love all those games too and have been sooo addicted to bioware games they make good stuff:P
however i have never played dragon age but from everything ive heard about it and input from my friends who have played it say.. it sucked major donkey balls..

Actually, DA:O is better than ME1 IMO. It's an awesome game. Unless you don't like RPGs, of course.

[Archonsg]

Oh speaking of Anderson / Udina passing away.....

I had a rather odd thought / daydream where a scene from Babylon 5 replayed itself with Shepard playing the part of Sheridan and Anderson playing the part of the unforunate commander who has to sacrifice himself, his ship and his crew with a "fake" message to draw the Shadows in, to a place where the matter between them and the Vorlons could be settled.



The reaper war is going poorly, as reapers have appeared and attacking at random. Anderson essentially drags Udina out to a remote colony with the pretence that they should do some diplomatic schmoozing but he has intentionally let leaked that he has been in contact with Shepard and the coalition forces and will be carrying battle plans for the war against the reapers. He has to make it look real, real enough to fight and die for. Udina is there to make sure that it looks real since most know that Udina would never really go anywhere if he could *really* be at risk.



Anderson sends a vid farewell to Shepard informing him of his plans and giving him the break Shepard will need. So when the reapers appear to "ambush" Shepard, its Shepard who will do the ambushing. Anderson dies a heroe's death, Udina just died screaming.

[wolfstanus]

HK01 wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

HereticSon wrote...

sounds good  both ME's are true masterpieces, never been so hooked by a game (or games) before.
Aw hell, I even got hooked by Dragon Age, BG 2 and SW: KOTOR. Damn you Bioware (in a positive meaning)

see i love all those games too and have been sooo addicted to bioware games they make good stuff:P
however i have never played dragon age but from everything ive heard about it and input from my friends who have played it say.. it sucked major donkey balls..

Actually, DA:O is better than ME1 IMO. It's an awesome game. Unless you don't like RPGs, of course.

Its all opinions... i loved morrowind but mass effect is just so much better... then again thats a opinion too