Xandurpein wrote...
Scy Lancer wrote...
Lareit wrote...
Beyonder101 wrote...
Archonsg wrote...
That is true.
Well, for console players I have to amend that and say you must have at least played FF7. 
But seriously, the BG series had to be one of the best RPG games made in the western hemisphere. Its old now, more then 12 years ago back around 1998, which like dog years that's a long time ago for computer related stuff. Considering how many people know, played and loved that game still. well, is a testament to its greatness.
Back to Tali related stuff:
Tali does have quite a few quotes from the BG series, as well as naming her Drone after one of Aerie's (BG2 character) dietiy's pet raccon if I remember that right. (been a while since i played BG and romanced Aerie and talked about the Diety Baervan)
I believe and I´m sad I never had chance to play BS... who know someday a new version on xbox720
. It´s good you addes FF7 on that, because I´ve played the game a lot´s of times and last time a half year ago, and I got it all done what was possible in that game (thaks for the internet) .
About the BS related contents as Chikktika , I haven´t expirieced it the original game but I´ve read it at http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Tali and now I´m seriously thinking about getting the game...
Baldurs Gate 2 is the best RPG of all time still to this day. Exceptional chrs, great story, great villian(something lacking from Bioware games since Jade Empire) fun chr progression. Interesting tactical combat. Immersive world.
Agreed. ME is the best thing BioWare made since. KotoR was a step in the right direction, but ME is the perfict evolution of the dynamic RPG.
Tali is just the cheery on top.
I played every bioware game since BG1. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I really think that both Dragon Age and Mass Effect beats BG2 in my book. BG2 was very, very good and certainly the whole series was ground breaking, but I think it's time to stop repeating "best since BG2" as if that won't ever be surpassed. The characters are stronger, the skill in telling the stories are better, both technical and writing skill. The companions are stronger in both Mass Effect and Dragon Age than they where in BG2. While I agree that BG2 had a good villian and a strong plot, the end was not very satisfying. The final cutscene in BG2 was actually quite lame imo.
Morrigan is the best written "bad girl" romance ever written and a far stronger personality than Viconia. As for the good/innocent girl romances, Aerie from BG2 doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as the subject of this thread.
I agree that Mass Effect is a great step forward, not just for Bioware, but for the whole gaming industry. Proving that a roleplaying game is about playing the role of a hero in a story, not fiddling with an endless invetory. This is how I want to play games in the future. And please notice all game designers. Stop feeding us bimbo's with pumped up breasts. Give us more female companions who have a heart and an inside like Tali.
Dragon age isn't nearly as good a game as BG2. ME2 comes close but the lack of banter and party exchange kills it.
Dragon age had no villian. The blight is an unstoppable force, it has no motives, no personality. Unlike Irenicus, and the extreamly clever design by the writers to have the Bhaalspawn taint take his form to increase his presence even still.
Dragonage's loot=Horrible scaling and completely boring progression. Infact....bioware games typically suck at loot. Even as far back as KOTOR, loot has been boring as hell, bg2 probally is the only exception.
BG2 Loot was signiciantly more fun to find and acquire.
Dragonage combat=CC the mages, aoe CC/Tank the fighters, kill. Every pack is the exact same. Sure you CAN do things differently by why? Not CCing the mage leaves them open to CC you and not tanking/ccing the melee/archer pack ensures your squishies are going to die due to sheer numerical damage values. BG2 combat varies greatly depending on your party and what you're fighting.
Morrigan is a ****, there is no depth to her personality. She claims to favor strength and survival of the fittist, but she goes out of her way to ****** people off and then acts like she doesn't care about them. There is no appeal to her except her beauty, she's not even interesting, she hates flemeth but seems bent on becomming exactly like her even if she doesn't get possesed by her
I would argue the Viconia depth comparison, but I have too much nostolgia in the way to be able to stand unbiasedly by the comparison, but from a mechanics and story point of view BG2 is a better game.
BG2 also didn't have damn memory leaks and constant crashes at release.