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All Tali fans, read this! IT'S UP TO US TO KEEP TALI ALIVE! 3.0!!


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HereticSon

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The_KFD_Case wrote...

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antilles333 wrote...

No need for the motivational pictures. Far too many. All of which are not funny.


See? You whine, alot.


GTFO, your talking with antilles.


No one owns this thread except for BioWare. Thus no one has to "GTFO" if they don't want to. Anyone and everyone can come and go, and even return once more (and leave again, etc.), if they so desire.


agree. still it's good to know that on a thread this big, and with so many poster, people tend to get well along with each other and have very understanding and motivated discussions and opinions

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Hi everybody I finally got my internet connection fixed. what's today's conversation about?


Pretty much everything. We covered everything from depression to Tali-haters and back.

Next we're going to be dealing with Healthcare reform for the entire planet.

I think most of western Europe is fine in this regard, actually.

unless my source is wrong.

I'd say Africa is pretty f*cked.

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antilles333 wrote...

RevanKun123 wrote...

For those who are interested, I wrote the Kenneth and Gabby part
http://social.biowar...1528/blog/2697/

Or just ignore it.


I ignore nothing sir! I will read it when I return from making my lunch.


The sir is a lady, FYI.
Don't worry, Revan, we're all looking out for you :innocent: 


The_KFD_Case wrote...

Gerudan wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...


Unless she is found to be legally insane during those acts the responsibility falls with her. Yes, we are a product of our environment and our past but as our Western laws currently stand (which are mirrored in the ME universe,) then we have rights and freedoms precisely because we are deemed capable of discerning "right" from "wrong" which in turn implies that we bear responsibility for our own actions. If not then we may as well strip away all rights since they become meaningless.


In realty we're responsible for nothing, because none of our decisions is really a decision of our consciousness (as far as neurologists know). =]

But honestly, if I really had to decide that, I wouldn't listen to a psychologist or so, but I would make my own judgment about her.


Then I disagree with those neurologists and invite them to up their game until they have a fuller understanding of what goes on in the human neuro pathways. =]


Frankly, all this stuff is so complex and vast that we're not even not remotely getting close to understanding exactly what inside us makes up for our mind and humanity. Consciousness and free will is something that can not be reduced to a network of synapses, as most neurologists would agree. And bar some clear cut examples falling within the rank of psychiatry, attempting to pass of criminal intentions as being forced by unconsciousness is sheer reductionism and has no place in legal society.

NuclearBuddha wrote...
I've got a kid, though, so I acknowledge that my opinion is not unbiased.


On the contrary, I believe in that case you're one of the few people who actually know what they're talking about.
 

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Wow, I just saw some guy saying that being attracted to Quarians is like being attracted to animals since their not human. Hate him.


That doesn't make a lot of sense. Sentient creatures, such as Humans, and pretty much all of the humanoid like races in ME are pretty fair game. Though, it is fiction, Quarians, Turians, Asari, etc, aren't animals. They're sentient beings.

Don't worry, you aren't a zoophile, just an xenophile! Image IPB


as far as i can tell, animals use to have hair. the asari doesn't have that, i bet that the quarians don't either, neither do the krogan or the turians.. 

so in my opinion, humans are more close to animals with their facial hair, hair, armhair, leghair... you get the idea


Well, hypothetically speaking, I believe this all comes down to the distinction of sentience vs. non-sentience.
I'm a dog person to my deepest core. I'll agree that dogs can be and usually are extremely intelligent, close to our own species and remarkably like us in so many ways. I'd swear my late dog could understand every word I said. But I'd still hesitate to call them fully sentient.  They're incapable of pondering abstract concepts, deductive and rational analysis, their ability to act other than based on empirical is severely lower than that of a truly sentient species I'd say. That's what makes the difference between sentience and non-sentience for me; the ability to grasp the potential. We're way closer to quarians than to dogs, if not biologically speaking. 
not that this would at all lessen the animals value; if anything, sentient races should take great care not to exploit the non-sentient ones IMO.  

Anyway, more love for Tali needed here. I'd definitely buy a Tali centered DLC even if it cost several thousands of BW points.
In fact,  that'd probably mean only one thing:
LOTS of Tali!!! :wub:

Bring it on, Bioware!!!!!!!!

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Commandr Bond wrote...

DrathanGervaise wrote...

HK01 wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Hi everybody I finally got my internet connection fixed. what's today's conversation about?


Pretty much everything. We covered everything from depression to Tali-haters and back.

Next we're going to be dealing with Healthcare reform for the entire planet.

I think most of western Europe is fine in this regard, actually.

unless my source is wrong.


We're fine, we're fine.

(The planet is not just Western Europe and North America, however)

Modifié par HK01, 26 février 2010 - 09:16 .


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HK01 wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Alright, both Tali and the Geth rifle are all mine again, just how it should be.
Life can be so beautiful.



Problem with the Geth rifle is that it burns through heat sinks at an insane rate.


Hmm, I usually had less ammo problems with the Geth Rifle than with the Collector Rifle.
And I hate the Vindicator. Forced burst fire isn't my kind of thing.

Maybe I was just imagining it, but on my first Insanity playthrough, the Geth Rifle seemed much more effective than the others, ammo capacity included.

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DrathanGervaise wrote...

Commandr Bond wrote...

I think most of western Europe is fine in this regard, actually.

unless my source is wrong.

I'd say Africa is pretty f*cked.

Indeed. Health care reform is the least of their worries right now.

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HereticSon wrote...

SgTKilmor wrote...


CandraZ wrote...

Wow, I just saw some guy saying that being attracted to Quarians is like being attracted to animals since their not human. Hate him.


That doesn't make a lot of sense. Sentient creatures, such as Humans, and pretty much all of the humanoid like races in ME are pretty fair game. Though, it is fiction, Quarians, Turians, Asari, etc, aren't animals. They're sentient beings.

Don't worry, you aren't a zoophile, just an xenophile! Image IPB


as far as i can tell, animals use to have hair. the asari doesn't have that, i bet that the quarians don't either, neither do the krogan or the turians.. 

so in my opinion, humans are more close to animals with their facial hair, hair, armhair, leghair... you get the idea


So what about aquarian species? Many of those species do not have "hair". Apply this to ME (ex. Hanar) or we could consider the way the Asari procreate is reminiscent of how worms procreate here on Earth (which does put a bit of a dampner on the old "Let's get it on" mojo, IMO).

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 26 février 2010 - 09:14 .


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HK01 wrote...

Commandr Bond wrote...

DrathanGervaise wrote...

HK01 wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Hi everybody I finally got my internet connection fixed. what's today's conversation about?


Pretty much everything. We covered everything from depression to Tali-haters and back.

Next we're going to be dealing with Healthcare reform for the entire planet.

I think most of western Europe is fine in this regard, actually.

unless my source is wrong.


We're fine, we're fine.

Just remember, once Obama is done screwing US over, he's coming for the rest of you. :police:

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Hey all, writing Part VII at the moment so can't stay.  Just thought I'd pitch in and say keep up the love!! :wub:

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DrathanGervaise wrote...

Just remember, once Obama is done screwing US over, he's coming for the rest of you. :police:

But they all have universal health care already...

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Commandr Bond wrote...

DrathanGervaise wrote...

Just remember, once Obama is done screwing US over, he's coming for the rest of you. :police:

But they all have universal health care already...


Fair enough. We'll just have to see what happens.

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Alright I'll admit I'm confused is the conversation about the qualifications for sentience,the value of history, or about how much we all love Tali.

I for one vote for the third option.

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The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ah hah! But I do accept that and by the very use of the words "conscious decision" it becomes our own act and thus we bear responsibility for it. ;)


No, because we only think it is a conscious decision´, but it is not. 

I find this a really interesting thing, because it means that everything we think we know about us, is wrong. It undermines the very foundation of the understanding of ourselfs and our society. 

And there are very few, who are able to accept that. 

It also doesn't mean, I don't feel responsible for the things I do, but I still think it is very interesting. 

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My apologies to you, Revan Ma'am.

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DrathanGervaise wrote...

Commandr Bond wrote...

DrathanGervaise wrote...

Just remember, once Obama is done screwing US over, he's coming for the rest of you. :police:

But they all have universal health care already...


Fair enough. We'll just have to see what happens.

Let's not talk about health care here this place is meant happier things like our love of Tali and the veiled threats of what we will do if she is not in ME3.:devil:

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DrathanGervaise wrote...

HK01 wrote...

Commandr Bond wrote...

DrathanGervaise wrote...

HK01 wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Hi everybody I finally got my internet connection fixed. what's today's conversation about?


Pretty much everything. We covered everything from depression to Tali-haters and back.

Next we're going to be dealing with Healthcare reform for the entire planet.

I think most of western Europe is fine in this regard, actually.

unless my source is wrong.


We're fine, we're fine.

Just remember, once Obama is done screwing US over, he's coming for the rest of you. :police:



By fine I mean we have healthcare...

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Needs more Tali

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antilles333 wrote...

My apologies to you, Revan Ma'am.


Don't worry about it.

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here's a snippit of a comic I found... it's a single frame I clipped:


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have fun ^_^

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Hey look! It's the background on my Nokia E71!

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Gerudan wrote...
No, because we only think it is a conscious decision´, but it is not. 

I find this a really interesting thing, because it means that everything we think we know about us, is wrong. It undermines the very foundation of the understanding of ourselfs and our society. 

And there are very few, who are able to accept that. 

It also doesn't mean, I don't feel responsible for the things I do, but I still think it is very interesting. 

If you're discussing what I think you're discussing this book has relevance.

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mothbanquet wrote...

Hey all, writing Part VII at the moment so can't stay.  Just thought I'd pitch in and say keep up the love!! :wub:


yay

#18748
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Jake71887 wrote...

Needs more Tali

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thanks for posting this pic, gotta love it :happy:

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DrathanGervaise wrote...
Just remember, once Obama is done screwing US over, he's coming for the rest of you. :police:


I'm with Obama on healthcare. I find it shocking that there are adults in the US whom actually trust the private insurance companies who make their profits off higher insurance premiums to be honest with them. It's ass backwards. :blink:

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Jake71887 wrote...

Needs more Tali

 

Saw your post in the anti-tali thread. The "Mind = Blown" part had me laughing pretty hard. Excellent work.