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NonHuman1136 wrote...
We have evaluated the Civil War threat. Talimancer Antilles wishes to improve the image of creator Tali'Zorah. The methods may be extreme but the goal is clear. Talimancer KFD only requests that the people be free to achieve the same end. The goals are the same, yet the methods are quite different. If organics desire galactic conquest, consensus must be reached.
Yeah but is completely useless in this situationTerrorfex wrote...
The_KFD_Case wrote...
camoboy_19 wrote...
Can't you see? This is what they want! they WANT Talimancers to divide because guess who comes to power when the Talimancers divide? Other groups! The Tali in ME3 cause would die and it would be the fault of a childish civil war. Are power is in the "We" not the "I". We can definately work this out if we all just relaxed about this. True, there is a sort of crudeness in some posts, but being a puritan cult wouldn't help our position. So, we just need to live with the fact that there is varying levels of opinions and views of Tali. If she were here (and.. ya know.. real) She would not approve (as far as I know)
Again, I agree, however the core issue seems to be that there are those who feel offended by some of the behaviour of others and will not be satisfied unless it stops completely. Those invididuals whom are just enjoying themselves, having a bit of fun and generally not trying to be a bother to others are disinclined to stop acting that way because some others are upset about it. I fall in the second group. I comprehend why the former group is upset and I do not wish to see them upset but I also think some of them feel entitled to somehow control these Tali threads because they have been involved in them. They aren't the only ones that have been involved in them and they don't have the final say nor should they.
That leaves us at an impasse because the difference between them pertains to a core value for each side that neither is willing to give up. I'm not asking the other group to give up what they want; I'm content to let them do what they want and I will do what I want. Problem is that what I want to do is something they take offense too and thust hey can not tolerate its existence even though I can tolerate theirs. I'm not prepared to give up a core value just to appease others that want their core value respected. It's a two way street.
"When all other options are exhausted - when another man will not let you take your son to school without offering a wicked tongue; when another nation will not let your people live free and clear in the rain and the sun; when there cannot be negotiation with those that will not hear a kind word amongst their hatred; there remains only the option of force.
When one has no other choice to make, one must make war."
Isn't that a pretty cool quote?
Welcome back mate!antilles333 wrote...
So. I'm sorry for attempting to moderate this place. You do have your freedom of speech, and I apologize if I offended you in any way.
That's an offtopic statement, so I'll post my favorite Tali picture. Though I would love if we were on topic more.
MarineBorn wrote...
ok one more question. When talking to shala'raan after the trail what does. "He didn't care about Tali." say...its sounds bad but i also thought the you deserve better line was going to be bad.....and i was WRONG!
Guest_antilles333_*
antilles333 wrote...
So. I'm sorry for attempting to moderate this place. You do have your freedom of speech, and I apologize if I offended you in any way.
That's an offtopic statement, so I'll post my favorite Tali picture. Though I would love if we were on topic more.
The_KFD_Case wrote...
Terrorfex wrote...
The_KFD_Case wrote...
camoboy_19 wrote...
Can't you see? This is what they want! they WANT Talimancers to divide because guess who comes to power when the Talimancers divide? Other groups! The Tali in ME3 cause would die and it would be the fault of a childish civil war. Are power is in the "We" not the "I". We can definately work this out if we all just relaxed about this. True, there is a sort of crudeness in some posts, but being a puritan cult wouldn't help our position. So, we just need to live with the fact that there is varying levels of opinions and views of Tali. If she were here (and.. ya know.. real) She would not approve (as far as I know)
Again, I agree, however the core issue seems to be that there are those who feel offended by some of the behaviour of others and will not be satisfied unless it stops completely. Those invididuals whom are just enjoying themselves, having a bit of fun and generally not trying to be a bother to others are disinclined to stop acting that way because some others are upset about it. I fall in the second group. I comprehend why the former group is upset and I do not wish to see them upset but I also think some of them feel entitled to somehow control these Tali threads because they have been involved in them. They aren't the only ones that have been involved in them and they don't have the final say nor should they.
That leaves us at an impasse because the difference between them pertains to a core value for each side that neither is willing to give up. I'm not asking the other group to give up what they want; I'm content to let them do what they want and I will do what I want. Problem is that what I want to do is something they take offense too and thust hey can not tolerate its existence even though I can tolerate theirs. I'm not prepared to give up a core value just to appease others that want their core value respected. It's a two way street.
"When all other options are exhausted - when another man will not let you take your son to school without offering a wicked tongue; when another nation will not let your people live free and clear in the rain and the sun; when there cannot be negotiation with those that will not hear a kind word amongst their hatred; there remains only the option of force.
When one has no other choice to make, one must make war."
Isn't that a pretty cool quote?
I certainly think so, and I am in complete agreement with it. Whom does it originate from?
Guest_MarineBorn_*
no its left middle, and remember the "I'll help you retake your homeworld" was a renegade response.sergio71785 wrote...
MarineBorn wrote...
ok one more question. When talking to shala'raan after the trail what does. "He didn't care about Tali." say...its sounds bad but i also thought the you deserve better line was going to be bad.....and i was WRONG!
I never selected that option. Since it was the low right-side option, it would be a renegade response.
I have been heavily offended and I demand an apology.... What are we talking about? hahaantilles333 wrote...
Though, going back to it, I owe Jake the largest apology. So I am sorry, Jake.
Guest_runescapeguy9_*
Hm. I was thinking it was from an old war general or something.Terrorfex wrote...
Terrorfex! I totally made it up as I was typing the reply. I AM SO AWESOME!
antilles333 wrote...
So. I'm sorry for attempting to moderate this place. You do have your freedom of speech, and I apologize if I offended you in any way.
That's an offtopic statement, so I'll post my favorite Tali picture. Though I would love if we were on topic more
Modifié par RevanKun123, 27 février 2010 - 02:20 .
Guest_Somebody1003_*
Thats suprising, I heard that the Ash fans are usually the most anti tali ones.FsDxRAGE wrote...
i just posted my fanfic in the Ashley support thread (since my fanfic it has LOTS of Ash in it) and i was greeted. i am a happy person right now, Mass Effect fans are so loving.
Somebody1003 wrote...
Oh wow next time I have to see it, I was going to the first time but then I knew Id feel bad if I just let her weep over her dads corpse:unsure:sergio71785 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
Did anyone not hug her when the paragon interuprion came up? What does she say if you dont hug her?MarineBorn wrote...
anyone else feel like you should be able to comfort Tali more, i mean she finds out her dad is a traitor (sort of) and all you can say is "he wanted to keep his promise".......HUG HER..AGIAN!!
She starts talking about how her father was never there for her, how he never took his sick days to let her see his face without the mask, etc. etc.
It's really pretty sad
MarineBorn wrote...
no its left middle, and remember the "I'll help you retake your homeworld" was a renegade response.sergio71785 wrote...
MarineBorn wrote...
ok one more question. When talking to shala'raan after the trail what does. "He didn't care about Tali." say...its sounds bad but i also thought the you deserve better line was going to be bad.....and i was WRONG!
I never selected that option. Since it was the low right-side option, it would be a renegade response.
Modifié par sergio71785, 27 février 2010 - 02:22 .
is jake here anymore???antilles333 wrote...
Though, going back to it, I owe Jake the largest apology. So I am sorry, Jake.
Guest_Somebody1003_*
What do you mean? And can you give me the link to the video Id like to see it.Scalpels wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
Oh wow next time I have to see it, I was going to the first time but then I knew Id feel bad if I just let her weep over her dads corpse:unsure:sergio71785 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
Did anyone not hug her when the paragon interuprion came up? What does she say if you dont hug her?MarineBorn wrote...
anyone else feel like you should be able to comfort Tali more, i mean she finds out her dad is a traitor (sort of) and all you can say is "he wanted to keep his promise".......HUG HER..AGIAN!!
She starts talking about how her father was never there for her, how he never took his sick days to let her see his face without the mask, etc. etc.
It's really pretty sad
Was unaware. Found on youtube. Hit home as I am father.
really? they were quite polite. i told them that Ash was awsome in ME1 and so on, so maybe they opened up to meSomebody1003 wrote...
Thats suprising, I heard that the Ash fans are usually the most anti tali ones.FsDxRAGE wrote...
i just posted my fanfic in the Ashley support thread (since my fanfic it has LOTS of Ash in it) and i was greeted. i am a happy person right now, Mass Effect fans are so loving.
MMA7FF wrote...
is jake here anymore???antilles333 wrote...
Though, going back to it, I owe Jake the largest apology. So I am sorry, Jake.
i think he left but i may be wrong
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