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[alickar]

Phil725 wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

you know, in a kinda wierd way, I actually trusted TIM. He makes some tough decisions,
but isn't unethical per say. (remember the Jack loyalty mission) Since I don't know if he
was involved w/ the quarian incident I can't hold that against him. Cerberus' actions are
also up for debate, seeing as TIM is largely in charge but doesn't control everything.
However, he should have been more upfront with you. That said, I felt some dialog
options w/ him that were paragon were unusually negative. I can also see the logic in
wanting to save the collector station. But the whole dominance thing might be kinda
risky and saving the facility could lead to a number of problems.

This is pretty much my point of view.  As long as the reapers are around, TIM is one of your best friends.  If you were a dog of the council still, the galaxy would end while you twiddle your thumbs. 

I also have not read Ascension, but it does seem to me like the books paint TIM in a different light, one Bioware didn't want to copy into ME2.  He is a much better person in ME2 than he is described in ME1 and Asension.  The games are also more canan than the books, so when in doubt, I'll side with the game.

then join neither be alone to fight them alliance will need u eventually tho

[NuclearBuddha]

DrakeforBake wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

One other thing to keep in mind, the Mass Effect universe is incredibly desensitized towards death as a whole.  From the genophage, to the batarians attacking and enslaving children, to Cerberus.  It isn't the same as our little world.  It's important to keep in mind when looking at events in Mass Effect.

No kidding.  IRL, someone would've put in the boots on the batarians by now.  Those guys are just plain scum

It bothers me that the Batarians are known terrorists but they purposely withdrew from the council embassies by choice.

Quarians made rogue synthetics, fought and lost and then got booted from the embassies.

So a race that purposely goes out of it's way to mess with EVERYBODY gets a better treatment than the race that actually cooperated? I know AI is bad and all but exile?

The batarians still were a viable spacefaring nation.  The quarians were a few million refugees.  One is easier to pick on and make a scapegoat of.  Makes perfect sense, if you understand just how cynical the Council is.

[cBselfmonkey]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

[Shades_Shady]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

Lousy Turian counciler.

[Jakegnosis]

DrakeforBake wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

One other thing to keep in mind, the Mass Effect universe is incredibly desensitized towards death as a whole.  From the genophage, to the batarians attacking and enslaving children, to Cerberus.  It isn't the same as our little world.  It's important to keep in mind when looking at events in Mass Effect.

No kidding.  IRL, someone would've put in the boots on the batarians by now.  Those guys are just plain scum

It bothers me that the Batarians are known terrorists but they purposely withdrew from the council embassies by choice.

Quarians made rogue synthetics, fought and lost and then got booted from the embassies.

So a race that purposely goes out of it's way to mess with EVERYBODY gets a better treatment than the race that actually cooperated? I know AI is bad and all but exile?

Totally agree.  Way to kick a people in their hour of greatest need, Council.  Keep it classy.

[wolfstanus]

MarineBorn wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

Tim tried to blow up a ship filled with Quarian families, not soldiers but women and children. He has his own men killed just to get a point across. He had no honor and helps no one without thinking he will gain something.

Tim is a ruthless, tyrannical, bastard that lets nothing stop him in satisfying hi sown selfish intrests. People like him need to be stopped before they warp to many others into trusting them, when they never plain on returning the trust.

Anyone that could kill innocents without remorse is not human but some kind of ghoulish monster. Tim also put the life of a young girl in danger by druging her with biotic drugs and various things that almost killed her, and after all that he still hunts her trying to complete his damn mission. He has lost his own grip on what it means to be a civilized human and needs to be reminded, which if someone tried he would not listen due to a ego the size of Australia.

This is my opinion of TIM.

I really need to read Ascension.  It just sounds like a different picture of TIM than ME2.

Sometimes you need to kill innocent people to get a job done. Kill a few save a thousand.

His plain was to blow up the Quarian ship to cover his escape with a young girl who was not in a stabile mental condition and did not want to be with him.....i understand what you are saying but i dont think you quiet realize what he was trying to do.

He only keeps people alive if he finds them usefull.. He stops finding them usefull he kills them...

[tiberius_adamantine]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

cBselfmonkey wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Right so did Tali have the same legion of fanboys in ME1? I think she is a good character too but 800 pages? Plus two previous threads on the subject?

'Dem hips' and 'Dat ass' have great power my friend.

chicken feet bro, your missing the chicken feet

 
maybe its different for me, seeing as my family has chickens, but I don't think we should be saying she has
chicken feet. She has a really nice body, let's talk about the curves instead.

[alickar]

MarineBorn wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

you know, in a kinda wierd way, I actually trusted TIM. He makes some tough decisions,
but isn't unethical per say. (remember the Jack loyalty mission) Since I don't know if he
was involved w/ the quarian incident I can't hold that against him. Cerberus' actions are
also up for debate, seeing as TIM is largely in charge but doesn't control everything.
However, he should have been more upfront with you. That said, I felt some dialog
options w/ him that were paragon were unusually negative. I can also see the logic in
wanting to save the collector station. But the whole dominance thing might be kinda
risky and saving the facility could lead to a number of problems.

He was involved with the Quarian incident, read Asension you will learn to hate that son of BlTCH.

oh...I ordered the book but haven't received it yet. What happened?

I won't ruin the story for you but trust me, he and his men are sick. Time and Time agian in that book they show there true lack of feeling. The ****ers even tortured a young Quarian for days to get codes into the migrant fleet.....the poor kid gave them the codes before they even started, they tortured him just for fun.

omg i wont throw a chair at him i will smash his little head and put him in a trash compactor

[NuclearBuddha]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

"Dismiss this claim."  You're killing me here.

[Alanosborn1991]

Im still laughing from this you guys lol

[alickar]

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

cBselfmonkey wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Right so did Tali have the same legion of fanboys in ME1? I think she is a good character too but 800 pages? Plus two previous threads on the subject?

'Dem hips' and 'Dat ass' have great power my friend.

chicken feet bro, your missing the chicken feet

 
maybe its different for me, seeing as my family has chickens, but I don't think we should be saying she has
chicken feet. She has a really nice body, let's talk about the curves instead.

hips+booty+average brests=all i need

[Angelraid]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

ROFL!

:ph34r:IT WONT LET ME CLICK

[camoboy_19]

alickar wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

you know, in a kinda wierd way, I actually trusted TIM. He makes some tough decisions,
but isn't unethical per say. (remember the Jack loyalty mission) Since I don't know if he
was involved w/ the quarian incident I can't hold that against him. Cerberus' actions are
also up for debate, seeing as TIM is largely in charge but doesn't control everything.
However, he should have been more upfront with you. That said, I felt some dialog
options w/ him that were paragon were unusually negative. I can also see the logic in
wanting to save the collector station. But the whole dominance thing might be kinda
risky and saving the facility could lead to a number of problems.

He was involved with the Quarian incident, read Asension you will learn to hate that son of BlTCH.

oh...I ordered the book but haven't received it yet. What happened?

I won't ruin the story for you but trust me, he and his men are sick. Time and Time agian in that book they show there true lack of feeling. The ****ers even tortured a young Quarian for days to get codes into the migrant fleet.....the poor kid gave them the codes before they even started, they tortured him just for fun.

omg i wont throw a chair at him i will smash his little head and put him in a trash compactor

TIM is reminding me of Sarren a little now

[alickar]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...



Im still laughing from this you guys lol

off topic DX

[Alanosborn1991]

[camoboy_19]

alickar wrote...

Alanosborn1991 wrote...



Im still laughing from this you guys lol

off topic DX

Off topicness is ineviatable

[Alanosborn1991]

[Lord_Moose]

[Alanosborn1991]

[DrakeforBake]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

DrakeforBake wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

One other thing to keep in mind, the Mass Effect universe is incredibly desensitized towards death as a whole.  From the genophage, to the batarians attacking and enslaving children, to Cerberus.  It isn't the same as our little world.  It's important to keep in mind when looking at events in Mass Effect.

No kidding.  IRL, someone would've put in the boots on the batarians by now.  Those guys are just plain scum

It bothers me that the Batarians are known terrorists but they purposely withdrew from the council embassies by choice.

Quarians made rogue synthetics, fought and lost and then got booted from the embassies.

So a race that purposely goes out of it's way to mess with EVERYBODY gets a better treatment than the race that actually cooperated? I know AI is bad and all but exile?

The batarians still were a viable spacefaring nation.  The quarians were a few million refugees.  One is easier to pick on and make a scapegoat of.  Makes perfect sense, if you understand just how cynical the Council is.

And then the Council almost got gassed by the guys that flipped them the finger.

Scrapegoats and all but the Quarians would have been back on their feet by now if the Council had it's ass in gear 300 years ago. They could have been an active contributing member of the galactic community. Why boot them? Who does that please? The Geth?

I'm starting to think a new council is just a better and better idea as this series goes on. I better get a chance to nuke them again in ME3.<3

[alickar]

yes it is dnt do 50 pgs of off topic tho ;/