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All Tali fans, read this! IT'S UP TO US TO KEEP TALI ALIVE! 3.0!!


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knight5923

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MarineBorn wrote...

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HEY! plz snip the quotes.


r u military?

Lance Corporal David Lance, 0311 Riflemen currently waiting at Mojave Viper Infantry Training Installation for a flight to my next duty station which will be Quantico and from there....no idea?


Lance Corporal David Lance?

................... Ya, I'll give that a few Tali-PointsImage IPB

#20152
SpatFieya

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personal favorite. the one on the right of course

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#20153
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Well Im gunna call it a night cya all later.

#20154
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Jake71887 wrote...

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That actually looks pretty good, but I always thought of her as having pale skin, because their skin never gets exposed to sunlight you know?


She has a different genetic makeup, never know how the chirality will affect her, might be pigment is reversed as well.... 


Hmm, true.....

#20155
tiberius_adamantine

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MarineBorn wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

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HEY! plz snip the quotes.


r u military?

Lance Corporal David Lance, 0311 Riflemen currently waiting at Mojave Viper Infantry Training Installation for a flight to my next duty station which will be Quantico and from there....no idea?


good luck soldier, you make us proud! *salutes* Image IPB

#20156
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alickar wrote...

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shed look hot but whats with the ************** elf ears gah!!!!!! throws chair

I think this is a pretty realistic look. Ears, not so sure

#20157
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MarineBorn wrote...

Looks like were getting into thinking that killing for the greater good is ok. But what it all boils down to is the person that has to make the desicion, if for any reason someone had to make a choice to save millions by killing a few hundred they would like to think they would do it. However when you are faced with a problem like that the stakes change and you don't jump to a decision nearly as fast. Either way its a costly transaction and many people would look to there own personal gain, or there own consience for the final answer.

I don't think killing for the Greater good is alright. In the end, if you kill those you try to defend to end the problem plaguing them, you have accomplished nothing


Again, not everthing is like a game, there is no magical hidden third option to save everyone in real life.  If you kill a few you were trying to defend as the only resort to saving many more, then you definitely accomplished something.

 If there are 10 people and one murderer, and you kill 8 of those people to get the murderer, that is no accomplushment, just the needless slaughter. Theres usually always a less leathal solution


I was more referring to the whole kill 100 to save a thousand situation, you've hit on another grey area.  If you let the murderer go in your situation, and he kills 20 people before you get another chance to stop him, then it was worth it to kill those 8.

Tieing it in to Mass Effect.  Compare it to Zaeed's loyalty mission, stop a merc leader and ruthless murderer, letting innocents die in the process, or save the innocents, and let Vido go.  IMO, its better to kill Vido.  He is all but guaranteed to kill a lot more people if you let him live.  Unfortunately there is no way to know in some cases what the right decision is until its too late.  This is a troublesome grey area, and a lot of times, your stuck choosing between two wrong answers.

#20158
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Somebody1003 wrote...

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Hey people who read the books, is it better to read them in order?



not really but Ascension and Retribution are very related.

All the books fit together though. If you want a better effect then yes read them in order.

(I would read them in order)

Which is first retribution?

Revelation, Ascension, Retribution. I that order.

Modifié par wolfstanus, 27 février 2010 - 04:23 .


#20159
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Hey, I don't agree with what the Council did, and I fully regret wasting human lives to save them in ME1 (sorta.  I mean, at least humans are respect more now for saving their worthless carcasses).  I'm just saying that if you're thinking the way the Council does, it makes a twisted sort of sense.

As for the colony the quarians were squatting, we don't know the whole story.  First, the quarians WERE in the wrong by squatting the planet.  Second, I'm willing to bet the Council had something to gain by screwing them over in favor of the elcor.  Again, I don't condone it, but I'm sure it made some kind of sick realpolitik sense.


Politically it makes sense but the council is condoning legal piracy, so long as it's their own.

The Council was advocating a class 2 offense of their own treaty (bombardment of a garden world) as a response to a specie that was about to recover.

Condoning a specie to exile and death by attrition is pretty damn cold. I vote for a new council. I may be a paragon but working for a council of gutless butchers is sickening me. :ph34r:

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tiberius_adamantine wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

HEY! plz snip the quotes.


r u military?

Lance Corporal David Lance, 0311 Riflemen currently waiting at Mojave Viper Infantry Training Installation for a flight to my next duty station which will be Quantico and from there....no idea?


good luck soldier, you make us proud! *salutes* Image IPB


Psst... he's a Marine...

#20161
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knight5923 wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

HEY! plz snip the quotes.


r u military?

Lance Corporal David Lance, 0311 Riflemen currently waiting at Mojave Viper Infantry Training Installation for a flight to my next duty station which will be Quantico and from there....no idea?


Lance Corporal David Lance?

................... Ya, I'll give that a few Tali-PointsImage IPB

...Damn itImage IPB....i catch hell about my last name all the time, i can't wait to make Srgt.

#20162
NuclearBuddha

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Jake71887 wrote...

Captain Noodle wrote...
That actually looks pretty good, but I always thought of her as having pale skin, because their skin never gets exposed to sunlight you know?


She has a different genetic makeup, never know how the chirality will affect her, might be pigment is reversed as well.... 

Rannochs sun is supposed to be be older than earth.  That could have something to do with any possible pigmentation.

#20163
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wolfstanus wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Hey people who read the books, is it better to read them in order?



not really but Ascension and Retribution are very related.

All the books fit together though. If you want a better effect then yes read them in order.

(I would read them in order)

Which is first retribution?

Revelation, Ascension, Retribution

Thanks a lot I ordered rev and asc yesterday cant wait to read em!

#20164
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Alanosborn1991 wrote...

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=3


I'm not sure about that pic, the freckles don't do it for me, and the skin is just..... off.

#20165
camoboy_19

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Phil725 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

Looks like were getting into thinking that killing for the greater good is ok. But what it all boils down to is the person that has to make the desicion, if for any reason someone had to make a choice to save millions by killing a few hundred they would like to think they would do it. However when you are faced with a problem like that the stakes change and you don't jump to a decision nearly as fast. Either way its a costly transaction and many people would look to there own personal gain, or there own consience for the final answer.

I don't think killing for the Greater good is alright. In the end, if you kill those you try to defend to end the problem plaguing them, you have accomplished nothing


Again, not everthing is like a game, there is no magical hidden third option to save everyone in real life.  If you kill a few you were trying to defend as the only resort to saving many more, then you definitely accomplished something.

 If there are 10 people and one murderer, and you kill 8 of those people to get the murderer, that is no accomplushment, just the needless slaughter. Theres usually always a less leathal solution


I was more referring to the whole kill 100 to save a thousand situation, you've hit on another grey area.  If you let the murderer go in your situation, and he kills 20 people before you get another chance to stop him, then it was worth it to kill those 8.

Tieing it in to Mass Effect.  Compare it to Zaeed's loyalty mission, stop a merc leader and ruthless murderer, letting innocents die in the process, or save the innocents, and let Vido go.  IMO, its better to kill Vido.  He is all but guaranteed to kill a lot more people if you let him live.  Unfortunately there is no way to know in some cases what the right decision is until its too late.  This is a troublesome grey area, and a lot of times, your stuck choosing between two wrong answers.

The reason why going after Vido is wrong is because you have the power to save those people. Damning them to death to capture one man means you believe you have the right to say who lives and who dies. Honestly, I don't see why you can just split up the group, You and Zaeed go after Vido, and whoever else goes to put out fires

#20166
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Jakegnosis wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

HEY! plz snip the quotes.


r u military?

Lance Corporal David Lance, 0311 Riflemen currently waiting at Mojave Viper Infantry Training Installation for a flight to my next duty station which will be Quantico and from there....no idea?


good luck soldier, you make us proud! *salutes* Image IPB


Psst... he's a Marine...

Semper Fi, do or die, put that bullet between their eyes!

In all seriousness be safe broskie.

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personal favorite. the one on the right of course
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....*EYES OPEN WIDE*...EEEEEECCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!! *Runs off and jumps off a cliff*

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camoboy_19 wrote...

If there are 10 people and one murderer, and you kill 8 of those people to get the murderer, that is no accomplushment, just the needless slaughter. Theres usually always a less leathal solution


That's not the same scenario though, and even if it were, if the murder was going to end up killing all of the other people if you didn't actively try to stop him/her, then are you not compelled to try and stop the murderer? I agree that the death of perceived innocents should be avoided in-so-far as is possible. I also acknowledge what Phil has been stating in regards to sometimes there's no clear "hero-saves-all" option in real life and people are going to die. It's not fair and it's not pretty, yet there it is: the cold, hard, unadulterated truth.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 27 février 2010 - 04:25 .


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DrakeforBake wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Hey, I don't agree with what the Council did, and I fully regret wasting human lives to save them in ME1 (sorta.  I mean, at least humans are respect more now for saving their worthless carcasses).  I'm just saying that if you're thinking the way the Council does, it makes a twisted sort of sense.

As for the colony the quarians were squatting, we don't know the whole story.  First, the quarians WERE in the wrong by squatting the planet.  Second, I'm willing to bet the Council had something to gain by screwing them over in favor of the elcor.  Again, I don't condone it, but I'm sure it made some kind of sick realpolitik sense.


Politically it makes sense but the council is condoning legal piracy, so long as it's their own.

The Council was advocating a class 2 offense of their own treaty (bombardment of a garden world) as a response to a specie that was about to recover.

Condoning a specie to exile and death by attrition is pretty damn cold. I vote for a new council. I may be a paragon but working for a council of gutless butchers is sickening me. :ph34r:

Emphasis mine.

Good to be in charge, huh?

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Well, congratulations to fellow talimancers on 800. keep it up, quite enjoyable reading the posts. Just wanted to post before it gets past the cardinal numbers.

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tiberius_adamantine

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Jakegnosis wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

HEY! plz snip the quotes.


r u military?

Lance Corporal David Lance, 0311 Riflemen currently waiting at Mojave Viper Infantry Training Installation for a flight to my next duty station which will be Quantico and from there....no idea?


good luck soldier, you make us proud! *salutes* Image IPB


Psst... he's a Marine...


Right! good luck Marine! you make us proud! *salutes* Image IPB

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MarineBorn wrote...

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personal favorite. the one on the right of course
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....*EYES OPEN WIDE*...EEEEEECCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!! *Runs off and jumps off a cliff*


Dont Quarians have antennaes?

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SpatFieya wrote...

personal favorite. the one on the right of course
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i wouldent mind id jus say dnt stick ur tounge out

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Just_mike wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

personal favorite. the one on the right of course
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....*EYES OPEN WIDE*...EEEEEECCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!! *Runs off and jumps off a cliff*


Dont Quarians have antennaes?

You're thinking of Rachni

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The_KFD_Case

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camoboy_19 wrote...

alickar wrote...

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

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=3

shed look hot but whats with the ************** elf ears gah!!!!!! throws chair

I think this is a pretty realistic look. Ears, not so sure


I would be well pleased if that is how Tali looks, or some where in that neighbourhood.