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[alickar]

alickar wrote...

Stars2255 wrote...

Ok stupid question but I'm I the only one who thinks tali has the best body? Samara dresses like a **** an Maranda has a decent body but an ugly face.

i like samara = boobs showing i dnt like almost no emotion tali=average bewbs but guud azz n hips

id bang her all night  

[Jakegnosis]

Stars2255 wrote...

Ok stupid question but I'm I the only one who thinks tali has the best body? Samara dresses like a **** an Maranda has a decent body but an ugly face.

I'm with you.  Not into porn-star-type bodies.

[Bloodhuman1]

alickar wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...





I'd enjoy the hacking minigames so much more  

Hacking, whacking, smacking, chopping dat meat.

mostly chopping dat meat

I... I have no comment...

[Phil725]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Jakegnosis wrote...

*snip*

That doesn't hold any water to me.  If you ignore the people in the refinery, you are condemning them to death, right then.  Anything that Vido might do in the future is pure conjecture.

Is it conjecture though?  The game makes it very clear that Vido will do anything, and kill anyone.  Your gambling with human lives with any choice along this line.  In my mind this is one of the easier ones to make.  The only way Vido doesn't kill more people than the amount that dies in the factory is if he drops dead from a heart attack that night.  It takes a very renegade person to be able to say "let those people die, this will save more people in the long run."  I doubt I could do it in real life, but in Mass Effect, where its an avatar, and emotions don't get in the way of pragmatism, its the right thing to do.

 #1 I'm pretty sure Zaeed hits the pilot at the end of the mission and #2 It's not the right thing to do because you have no idea what will happen if you kill Vido. IF you kill him, someone else will take over, probably even more maniacal. Saying it's the right thing to do to kill Vido would be like telling the future, which you can't. Also, would you honestly say that those people can die all because of Zaeed and Vido? The end would not justify all the innocent workers who burned to death due to your inhumanity

So what if you save those people, and the next day Vido blows up an entire colony, killing thousands in order to get some element zero from it.  Do you blame yourself for their deaths, or justify it yourself by saying that you had no way to know?

[camoboy_19]

Phil725 wrote...

DrakeforBake wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

 Well Vido is just the Blue Sun leader. Someone else will take his place, maybe more ruthless than he is. You wouldn't know who, but someone ruthless most likely. Is it right to forsake the innocent workers to kill Vido, who would just be replaced like a fired bullet from a Rifle? I understand that you don't always have that opportunity. However, If Zaeed wasn't such a damn ****** and blew the gas line in the factory you could kill Vido anyways

I know this is a silly comparison but by killing the villian in Modern Warfare 1 you allow a much more ruthless and bloodthirsty leutenient gain control in the following story. Sometimes starting at the top down is the worst way to dismantle an organization that recruits morally ambiguous troops.

And if that happened in Vido's case, then clearly my choice was wrong.  That goes back to my whole point about choosing between two wrong choices though.  It isn't always as simple as right and wrong.

IMO, it seems like people here are content with sticking with constants, saving the people they can see, and end it with a clear conscience because you don't see the consequences of your decision.  Just because you don't see the consequences doesn't mean they aren't there though.

Saying that the saving of civilians is wrong is... well.. wrong. Vido was evil, yes. But Vido is just another idiot with a gun, a voice, and mindless soldiers. If you kill Vido outright, someone else will just take his position. Even if they didn't, There would then be an army of leaderless mercanaries, who, alone, may be even more dangerous than together

[SpatFieya]

alickar wrote...

alickar wrote...

Stars2255 wrote...

Ok stupid question but I'm I the only one who thinks tali has the best body? Samara dresses like a **** an Maranda has a decent body but an ugly face.

i like samara = boobs showing i dnt like almost no emotion tali=average bewbs but guud azz n hips

id bang her all night  

All night long?

[Skadhi1]

sergio71785 wrote...

Here's an interesting concept. TIM may have leverage on Shepard based on his LI in ME3.

Tali = Some kind of permanent immunity system booster
Thane = Something similar in regards to his disease
Liara = Info on the Shadow Broker
Miranda = Protection for her sister
Jack = Something to do with the experiments done to her by Cerberus
Jacob/Ashley/Garrus = I'm sure he could dig up something.
So, who's willing to risk a deal with the Devil for Tali's sake? 

Not a problem.  Once you lose your integrity, the rest is easy.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall
fear no evil, for I am the most evil one in the valley.

[sergio71785]

vykvyper1 wrote...

goodnight guys. seeya later. I'll leave you with this repost (it's not mine. I just mirrored the file):

Yeah that's super cute

[Stars2255]

And she seems to be be the only beliveable story, and the most meaningful. She cares about everybody. Maranda is self centered and Samara is a drama queen

[Axnollouse]

Holy sweet jesus close to 1000!



We will make it by Sunday Sunday someday!

[sergio71785]

Stars2255 wrote...

Ok stupid question but I'm I the only one who thinks tali has the best body? Samara dresses like a **** an Maranda has a decent body but an ugly face.

Teehee, miranda's a butter face

I think she has the best body. She's got the most impressive "hips to waist" ratio.

[CandraZ]

sergio71785 wrote...

vykvyper1 wrote...

goodnight guys. seeya later. I'll leave you with this repost (it's not mine. I just mirrored the file):

Yeah that's super cute

Thank god your not seeing the last panel.

[knight5923]

MarineBorn wrote...

Bloodhuman1 wrote...

alickar wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...





I'd enjoy the hacking minigames so much more  

Hacking, whacking, smacking, chopping dat meat.

mostly chopping dat meat

I... I have no comment...

Ya i agree, What does Chopping that meat mean...? sounds.....cruel.

I dunno, but it sounds like there's enough meat whacking going on to make up for the rest of us............

[alickar]

i will throw a massive chair at peepz when we get to 1000 pgs

[SpatFieya]

Stars2255 wrote...

And she seems to be be the only beliveable story, and the most meaningful. She cares about everybody. Maranda is self centered and Samara is a drama queen

Well.. she did kill her own daughter, who was a succubus. But she's old, been around the block MORE than once.

Tali = new from factory, 0 miles and care package.

[camoboy_19]

Phil725 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Jakegnosis wrote...

*snip*

That doesn't hold any water to me.  If you ignore the people in the refinery, you are condemning them to death, right then.  Anything that Vido might do in the future is pure conjecture.

Is it conjecture though?  The game makes it very clear that Vido will do anything, and kill anyone.  Your gambling with human lives with any choice along this line.  In my mind this is one of the easier ones to make.  The only way Vido doesn't kill more people than the amount that dies in the factory is if he drops dead from a heart attack that night.  It takes a very renegade person to be able to say "let those people die, this will save more people in the long run."  I doubt I could do it in real life, but in Mass Effect, where its an avatar, and emotions don't get in the way of pragmatism, its the right thing to do.

 #1 I'm pretty sure Zaeed hits the pilot at the end of the mission and #2 It's not the right thing to do because you have no idea what will happen if you kill Vido. IF you kill him, someone else will take over, probably even more maniacal. Saying it's the right thing to do to kill Vido would be like telling the future, which you can't. Also, would you honestly say that those people can die all because of Zaeed and Vido? The end would not justify all the innocent workers who burned to death due to your inhumanity

So what if you save those people, and the next day Vido blows up an entire colony, killing thousands in order to get some element zero from it.  Do you blame yourself for their deaths, or justify it yourself by saying that you had no way to know?

You are sort of forgetting the fact that Vido has no resources to destroy an entire colony, not to mention that as a mercanary group they would simply go in, since they don't want to draw attention or have to maintain the colony, steal what they can, then go home. You are just supposing that these people are terrorists, but theyre not, just mercs who go to the highest bidder. Cerberus though, could do something like the scenario you proposed. Also, don't you think that this lapse in security would cause a power struggle in the Blue Suns? Would certaintly quiet them the hell down

[DrakeforBake]

Phil725 wrote...

And if that happened in Vido's case, then clearly my choice was wrong.  That goes back to my whole point about choosing between two wrong choices though.  It isn't always as simple as right and wrong.

IMO, it seems like people here are content with sticking with constants, saving the people they can see, and end it with a clear conscience because you don't see the consequences of your decision.  Just because you don't see the consequences doesn't mean they aren't there though.

Here's one definite constant though. The Blue Suns is a massive organization. They have huge stakes in all quarters of the galaxy; bodyguards, raiders, personal army, slaver traders they have their mitts in everything in the Terminus.

In the end you are right neither choice is clearly right but neither is clearly wrong. By saving the people you know you free them from occupation and death. Possibly saving the refinery as well.

Slaying Vido kills one man whom you only know was as ass by the other **** that told you to kill him. You prevent one man from continuing his own rule of tyranny but that doesn't halt the army he lead.

Either way is a personal choice with unknown future consequences.

[Phil725]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

DrakeforBake wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

 Well Vido is just the Blue Sun leader. Someone else will take his place, maybe more ruthless than he is. You wouldn't know who, but someone ruthless most likely. Is it right to forsake the innocent workers to kill Vido, who would just be replaced like a fired bullet from a Rifle? I understand that you don't always have that opportunity. However, If Zaeed wasn't such a damn ****** and blew the gas line in the factory you could kill Vido anyways

I know this is a silly comparison but by killing the villian in Modern Warfare 1 you allow a much more ruthless and bloodthirsty leutenient gain control in the following story. Sometimes starting at the top down is the worst way to dismantle an organization that recruits morally ambiguous troops.

And if that happened in Vido's case, then clearly my choice was wrong.  That goes back to my whole point about choosing between two wrong choices though.  It isn't always as simple as right and wrong.

IMO, it seems like people here are content with sticking with constants, saving the people they can see, and end it with a clear conscience because you don't see the consequences of your decision.  Just because you don't see the consequences doesn't mean they aren't there though.

Saying that the saving of civilians is wrong is... well.. wrong. Vido was evil, yes. But Vido is just another idiot with a gun, a voice, and mindless soldiers. If you kill Vido outright, someone else will just take his position. Even if they didn't, There would then be an army of leaderless mercanaries, who, alone, may be even more dangerous than together

Vido is by no stretch of the imagination a mindless person with a gun.  He is the ruthless leader of the most successful mercenary group in the galaxy, and has been for 20 years.  The chance that his follower is more ruthless/successful is very small. 

[alickar]

choppin dat meat=banging her -__-

[vykvyper1]

ok one last thing before I go. Y'all remember that wallpaper I posted that had the typo? I sent the artist a message and he fixed it!   so enjoy:

[Bloodhuman1]

MarineBorn wrote...

Bloodhuman1 wrote...

alickar wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...





I'd enjoy the hacking minigames so much more  

Hacking, whacking, smacking, chopping dat meat.

mostly chopping dat meat

I... I have no comment...

Ya i agree, What does Chopping that meat mean...? sounds.....cruel.

Well, I'll give you 1 hint.

Begins with "M".

[vykvyper1]

CandraZ wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

vykvyper1 wrote...

goodnight guys. seeya later. I'll leave you with this repost (it's not mine. I just mirrored the file):

Yeah that's super cute

Thank god your not seeing the last panel.

that's why I clipped it off

[Jakegnosis]

Phil725 wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Jakegnosis wrote...

*snip*

That doesn't hold any water to me.  If you ignore the people in the refinery, you are condemning them to death, right then.  Anything that Vido might do in the future is pure conjecture.

Is it conjecture though?  The game makes it very clear that Vido will do anything, and kill anyone.  Your gambling with human lives with any choice along this line.  In my mind this is one of the easier ones to make.  The only way Vido doesn't kill more people than the amount that dies in the factory is if he drops dead from a heart attack that night.  It takes a very renegade person to be able to say "let those people die, this will save more people in the long run."  I doubt I could do it in real life, but in Mass Effect, where its an avatar, and emotions don't get in the way of pragmatism, its the right thing to do.

 #1 I'm pretty sure Zaeed hits the pilot at the end of the mission and #2 It's not the right thing to do because you have no idea what will happen if you kill Vido. IF you kill him, someone else will take over, probably even more maniacal. Saying it's the right thing to do to kill Vido would be like telling the future, which you can't. Also, would you honestly say that those people can die all because of Zaeed and Vido? The end would not justify all the innocent workers who burned to death due to your inhumanity

So what if you save those people, and the next day Vido blows up an entire colony, killing thousands in order to get some element zero from it.  Do you blame yourself for their deaths, or justify it yourself by saying that you had no way to know?

"What if" is the relevant part of that.  There's no "what if" regarding those workers burning to death.  You can "what if" all day long.  What if Vido, realizing that he doesn't just have Zaeed on his ass now, but also Commander f**king Shepard, decides to play it safe and lay low?  Or come right after Shepard and Zaeed?  What if he gets shot in the face by an ambitious lieutenant, or dies in an ambush by a rival mercenary company?