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[FsDxRAGE]

camoboy_19 wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

uh... my back hurts from typing fanfic
all for Tali though
i saw someone typed an insane post. very big

It was for Tali too

true. i love you guys

[DarkwanderStorm]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

uh... my back hurts from typing fanfic
all for Tali though
i saw someone typed an insane post. very big

It was for Tali too

true. i love you guys

i love how tali turned out for my fnafic

[Phil725]

And on the subject as a whole, the cynic in me always leads back to if Bioware wants to wave a magic wand and make it happen they can. I'm nowhere near proficient enough in science to determine what kind of obstacle chirality would be in a real life situation.

[FsDxRAGE]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

uh... my back hurts from typing fanfic
all for Tali though
i saw someone typed an insane post. very big

It was for Tali too

true. i love you guys

just pulled a muscle in my back stretching
DAMN THAT HURTS! i gotta get off, i lost my breath on that one, freal

[Angelraid]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

I think that in regards to this topic...... *snip*

Yeah wasn't gonna post all that quote. I'm only sorta here but when I saw this mother of a WoT I had to see what it was. And now I must shoot it down.

Even though its an interesting concept as stated before something like this wouldn't work. Even a mordin tank baby wont work for the same basic reason. Essentially it's like this. Quarian and human dont mix genetically - I think thats pretty much establihed. The problem with genetic manipulation and bioengineering is that. If you alter one of the parents DNA in order to make it compatible with the other then the DNA is in fact no longer the DNA from the original race and thus the child is not a hybrid at all but is a genetic construct that is niether race nor a mix of the races but is in fact a new race created in a lab.

Well I'd give it a chance considering the numerous technological advances in medicine and biology (HOLY **** MEDIGEL!!!!!) I think its an idea worth consideration

It's not a technilogical issue. The tech might exist to do what is described but the result is not a hybrid, that is the point. It you alter say (shepards) DNA so that it will mesh w/ quarians then by changing it you have made it so that it is no longer human DNA and thus the offspring made (if concieved, to say nothing of its viability) would in essence not be a cross between a human and a quarian at all. but a quarian and some manufactured genetic strain.

[camoboy_19]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

I think that in regards to this topic...... *snip*

Yeah wasn't gonna post all that quote. I'm only sorta here but when I saw this mother of a WoT I had to see what it was. And now I must shoot it down.

Even though its an interesting concept as stated before something like this wouldn't work. Even a mordin tank baby wont work for the same basic reason. Essentially it's like this. Quarian and human dont mix genetically - I think thats pretty much establihed. The problem with genetic manipulation and bioengineering is that. If you alter one of the parents DNA in order to make it compatible with the other then the DNA is in fact no longer the DNA from the original race and thus the child is not a hybrid at all but is a genetic construct that is niether race nor a mix of the races but is in fact a new race created in a lab.

Well I'd give it a chance considering the numerous technological advances in medicine and biology (HOLY **** MEDIGEL!!!!!) I think its an idea worth consideration

It's not a technilogical issue. The tech might exist to do what is described but the result is not a hybrid, that is the point. It you alter say (shepards) DNA so that it will mesh w/ quarians then by changing it you have made it so that it is no longer human DNA and thus the offspring made (if concieved, to say nothing of its viability) would in essence not be a cross between a human and a quarian at all. but a quarian and some manufactured genetic strain.

Alpha quit being a buzzkill. Last time I checked none of us were biologists

[tiberius_adamantine]

Phil725 wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...
It has been argued, even if this were legal would it be ethical? My answer is that yes, it is ethical and from a certain perspective not seeking it out would be unethical. Why? Because the issue of “race” often poses a challenge to unity and stability. Sometimes this issue can create problems as the different peoples can be more indifferent to what happens to the others because they are a different race, a different group. Intermarriage has often been a beginning step in resolving differences between these groups who only thought that they were different. In reality they find they are more alike than unalike. This becomes strengthened by the possibility of a hybrid child, said child would blur the walls that divide the different species. It will be difficult at first, such changes usually are at first, but such a development could in the long run benefit the galaxy. Although explaining this isn’t essential to the idea’s potential, I felt it deserved the time to be addressed.

I realize you said you didn't want people cherry picking paragraphs, but this one seems seperate enough, and I'm pretty much expanding on your point.

I think potential ethics in the Mass Effect universe are much more complex and hard to predict than anything regarding technology.  At least technology follows a simple direction, up.  Ethics are always changing, and in my perspective, the ME world is a lot less ethical than ours.  Take Mordin's conversation with his assistant.  Where he says that hes a doctor and should try to help people, Mordin's response that there are multiple ways of helping, including killing dangerous people is against current ethics in our world.  In ME its par for the course.

What your arguing almost seems more diplomatic than ethical when you factor in that it changes two large groups of people's opinions.  Diplomatically it definitely makes sense.  Ethically, I think were in too nebulous of territory to even speculate.  I think ethics are the least of your concern on this matter.

Just my two cents.  The rest, I'm bringing a sword to a gun fight, but I'm all for a Tali/Shep baby.

sorry about the cherry picking thing, I'm used to people butchering my ideas like that when I address their point
later. And, thank you for that.

[Jaekahn]

I.... can't believe there's so many Tali fans. I am in awe xD

[camoboy_19]

Jaekahn wrote...

I.... can't believe there's so many Tali fans. I am in awe xD

Oh theres more

[Angelraid]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

I think that in regards to this topic...... *snip*

Yeah wasn't gonna post all that quote. I'm only sorta here but when I saw this mother of a WoT I had to see what it was. And now I must shoot it down.

Even though its an interesting concept as stated before something like this wouldn't work. Even a mordin tank baby wont work for the same basic reason. Essentially it's like this. Quarian and human dont mix genetically - I think thats pretty much establihed. The problem with genetic manipulation and bioengineering is that. If you alter one of the parents DNA in order to make it compatible with the other then the DNA is in fact no longer the DNA from the original race and thus the child is not a hybrid at all but is a genetic construct that is niether race nor a mix of the races but is in fact a new race created in a lab.

Well I'd give it a chance considering the numerous technological advances in medicine and biology (HOLY **** MEDIGEL!!!!!) I think its an idea worth consideration

It's not a technilogical issue. The tech might exist to do what is described but the result is not a hybrid, that is the point. It you alter say (shepards) DNA so that it will mesh w/ quarians then by changing it you have made it so that it is no longer human DNA and thus the offspring made (if concieved, to say nothing of its viability) would in essence not be a cross between a human and a quarian at all. but a quarian and some manufactured genetic strain.

Alpha quit being a buzzkill. Last time I checked none of us were biologists

Well actually now that you mentioned it,  do have a BA in biology.... I'm no genetic expert but I know enough to comment on the basics of the subject.

Edit: Also sorry if you think I'm a buzz kill. Not doing this to destroy fanboys fantasies of little sheppard jr's, just an observation about the plausablility of such an event happening for realz.

Modifié par Geth Hunter Alpha, 27 février 2010 - 05:54 .

[camoboy_19]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

I think that in regards to this topic...... *snip*

Yeah wasn't gonna post all that quote. I'm only sorta here but when I saw this mother of a WoT I had to see what it was. And now I must shoot it down.

Even though its an interesting concept as stated before something like this wouldn't work. Even a mordin tank baby wont work for the same basic reason. Essentially it's like this. Quarian and human dont mix genetically - I think thats pretty much establihed. The problem with genetic manipulation and bioengineering is that. If you alter one of the parents DNA in order to make it compatible with the other then the DNA is in fact no longer the DNA from the original race and thus the child is not a hybrid at all but is a genetic construct that is niether race nor a mix of the races but is in fact a new race created in a lab.

Well I'd give it a chance considering the numerous technological advances in medicine and biology (HOLY **** MEDIGEL!!!!!) I think its an idea worth consideration

It's not a technilogical issue. The tech might exist to do what is described but the result is not a hybrid, that is the point. It you alter say (shepards) DNA so that it will mesh w/ quarians then by changing it you have made it so that it is no longer human DNA and thus the offspring made (if concieved, to say nothing of its viability) would in essence not be a cross between a human and a quarian at all. but a quarian and some manufactured genetic strain.

Alpha quit being a buzzkill. Last time I checked none of us were biologists

Well actually now that you mentioned it,  do have a BA in biology.... I'm no genetic expert but I know enough to comment on the basics of the subject.

Also last time I checked none of us had a time machine to go this far in future and state this would not be possible in a different form than what you had described

[cBselfmonkey]

Jaekahn wrote...

I.... can't believe there's so many Tali fans. I am in awe xD

"Our name is Legion, for we are many...."

 

[tiberius_adamantine]

I know about the different problems regarding the biology of it. That's actually how I was

put on track with this new explaination.

[camoboy_19]

Must...resist...urge..to throw....chairs...

[Levi va Normandy]

 IM BAAAAAAACK!!!! HELLO TALI COMMUNITYY  

[tiberius_adamantine]

Levi va Normandy wrote...

 IM BAAAAAAACK!!!! HELLO TALI COMMUNITYY  

um...What's up?

[DarkwanderStorm]

Promo of first fanfic would love comments >.>

http://social.biowar...5244/blog/2887/

[GMR25]

Dang, and I thought Garrus had a big fanbase. 800 pages all dedicated to the girl without a face?

[Angelraid]

Are you guys even reading my explanation? It has nothing to do with future tech. I know you want it to work but if there is a way thats not it.



If you trying to cross an apple and an orange. and you change the apple into a grapefruit. Then you havent succeeded in crossing an apple and an orange. you have succeeded in crossing a grapefruit and an orange. It might bear fruit but its not the desired outcome of an apple (human)/orange (quarian) hybrid.

[Levi va Normandy]

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

Levi va Normandy wrote...

 IM BAAAAAAACK!!!! HELLO TALI COMMUNITYY  

um...What's up?

I hath returned for MY Tali   ALL YOU GUYS CAN GTFO 

[camoboy_19]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

Are you guys even reading my explanation? It has nothing to do with future tech. I know you want it to work but if there is a way thats not it.

If you trying to cross an apple and an orange. and you change the apple into a grapefruit. Then you havent succeeded in crossing an apple and an orange. you have succeeded in crossing a grapefruit and an orange. It might bear fruit but its not the desired outcome of an apple (human)/orange (quarian) hybrid.

I'm just trying to mess with you

[Angelraid]

Levi va Normandy wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

Levi va Normandy wrote...

 IM BAAAAAAACK!!!! HELLO TALI COMMUNITYY  

um...What's up?

I hath returned for MY Tali   ALL YOU GUYS CAN GTFO 

pff I R . Make me if you dare.

[sergio71785]

GMR25 wrote...

Dang, and I thought Garrus had a big fanbase. 800 pages all dedicated to the girl without a face?

This is actually the third iteration of this thread. First one was 380 pages, and the second one was 1150 pages. 

[tiberius_adamantine]

DarkwanderStorm wrote...

Promo of first fanfic would love comments >.>
http://social.biowar...5244/blog/2887/

and you talked about my wall of text, lol.

[Jakegnosis]

GMR25 wrote...

Dang, and I thought Garrus had a big fanbase. 800 pages all dedicated to the girl without a face?

Heh, and this is the third thread.  The first one was 380 pages and the second went all the way up to 1150.

We really like Tali.