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[AventuroLegendary]

cBselfmonkey wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Lets drop the children subject please

Second, we don't want bioware thinking we're losers with weird fantasys now.

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Exactly. Its not like we're fanatics that create 1000+ page threads on a character or anything like that.

Plus do you want ME3 to turn into a cheesy 50's family comedy?!!?
Shepard: honey I'm home!!

[Angelraid]

SpatFieya wrote...

phonypapercut56 wrote...

Was researching my earlier question and came across something interesting. Apparently D-amino acids are sweet tasting i.e. TALI TASTES LIKE SUGAR.

"loly pop loly pop, loly, loly pop"

Looks like someone beat me too it, I'm slow this morning

[Aardvark-8]

solazz wrote...

Ok guys. I'm out for now. Hopefully, by the time I get back, someone will have thrown a high school biology book at alickar.

To reiterate:

You're kidding me, alickar.
The reason all races of dogs can procreate is because despite the obvious differences between races, all dogs are members of a single species, Canis lupus familiaris. They all have the same genes, the differences are in the particular variants or alleles and their combination; if the physical act works (may be impossible naturally due to size difference etc) there's no biological barrier to cross.
Inter-species procreation is only possible in several cases of mammal pairs, and only because they're genetically nearly identical.

Different species have different number of chromosomes, and the evolution went through some pretty convoluted changes to get each species where it is now. That is only the beginning of the infinite little things that have to go exactly right to ensure a child is succesfully born. The slightest change to the system results in impossibility of survival of the child. For instance, out of 23 chromosome pairs human possesses, there lack of a single member of any pair except X chromosome results in miscarriage. Only three of them can be multiplied and still allow birth of a child, each with a wide array of pathological changes.
There's almost no chance another species in the universe would evolve to even look similar to humans in real life. Procreation between species hailing from different planets (asari obviously aside) would totally ruin the already stretched science of mass effect.
So far, they're doing splendid. The things that wouldn't work in real life are pretty well covered and all serve major storytelling purposes, enabling the story as a whole. What we're debating here would serve no other purpose than degrade this careful mix of science and fiction to the level of hocus pocus.
It works in fantasy because magic is inherent there, but in sci-fi, it would violate the most sacred principles of the genre.

Now let's just let this go and debate what the quarians' approach to adoption would be 

And chirality:
Umm, as for chirality in amino acids, it means all the difference in the world from a biological standpoint.

Majority of what builds our cells and bodies are proteins. It's the way they interact that causes the incredible machine we are working smoothly, from simple structural stability of our bodies to the regulation of myriad processes taking place inside us all the time.

All of this interaction is inevitably based on what shapes and conformation those proteins take, like building a jigsaw puzzle or a clockwork mechanism.

Every protein is a chain of amino acids linked together so that they assume some shape. This shape is key, as protein interaction usually works similar to a lock-and-key mechanism.

Chirality (what's hanging left and right in one particular place of the AA molecule) defines its entire geometry and shape; the difference is like between our left and right hands.The entire network, the entire clockwork mechanism, would have to be made differently because the wheels are different. If you took a random mix of both, you could never make it work because the proteins wouldn't fit together.



The only scientifically tenable way for Shepard and Tali to have a child would be to adopt one or use donor semen/surrogate mother.

Biologically engineering a child could also theoretically work in the ME universe. But not taking Shepard's DNA and building upon it.


Just drop it already!

If they do it, they'll wreck the science. Of course they can do it, but it'd make countless people die a little.

[VettoRyouzou]

DarkwanderStorm wrote...

alickar wrote...

and plus mass 2 iz like farther in the future thn we r so it is possible tht they have the tech to alter semen etc. so u cn have babies with other species

dont think people can grab that idea yet

Probably case it the most retarded idea I've seen? Why even go threw that route if your going to do that why not simple ****ing clone the thing, and while were at it let wave the magic fairy wand over the reapers and turn them into cute little fluffy dogs that fart pixy dust and cocaine!

I love people sense of "Genetic" modification it like saying if you ram two species together head first it doesn't mean they will die that some magical new creature of beauty will be born it not like there dna can reject each other and case the creature to die a most horrific death case well that would be gee golly gruesome dad.

People grow up just case the asari are some space ****s that fake a "hybrid spices" ((screw the fact all asari supposedly "mixed born" are still 100% asari just with a tweak here and there)). Doesn't mean every race need this kind of BS get use to the idea tali and Shepard will never have a kid threw normal or other means, let them adopt a poor human boy and a poor Quarians girl and live happily.

Modifié par VettoRyouzou, 27 février 2010 - 10:08 .

[wolfstanus]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

phonypapercut56 wrote...

Was researching my earlier question and came across something interesting. Apparently D-amino acids are sweet tasting i.e. TALI TASTES LIKE SUGAR.

"loly pop loly pop, loly, loly pop"

Looks like someone beat me too it, I'm slow this morning

[DarkwanderStorm]

you know if bioware just made all the species animo-acids the same we wouldnt have these discussions about hybrids i think bioware did that on purpose

[Indie Thompson]

GD4EVA wrote...

HAHAHAHAHAHA !
This is awesome. 

I like that.

[alickar]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

cBselfmonkey wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Lets drop the children subject please

Second, we don't want bioware thinking we're losers with weird fantasys now.

...

Exactly. Its not like we're fanatics that create 1000+ page threads on a character or anything like that.

Plus do you want ME3 to turn into a cheesy 50's family comedy?!!?
Shepard: honey I'm home!!

id rather not tht happen like at the end it tells u what u and ur LI do such as 2 years later they get married adopt/have children

[epoch_]

I feel compelled to post happy pictures of tali, after the one of her dying. So here.

[RevanKun123]

Jake71887 wrote...

Chemistry is boring  

Maybe it's time to post something...anything that will make them stop talking about it.

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[Levi va Normandy]

[AventuroLegendary]

Aardvark-8 wrote...

solazz wrote...

Ok guys. I'm out for now. Hopefully, by the time I get back, someone will have thrown a high school biology book at alickar.

To reiterate:

You're kidding me, alickar.
The reason all races of dogs can procreate is because despite the obvious differences between races, all dogs are members of a single species, Canis lupus familiaris. They all have the same genes, the differences are in the particular variants or alleles and their combination; if the physical act works (may be impossible naturally due to size difference etc) there's no biological barrier to cross.
Inter-species procreation is only possible in several cases of mammal pairs, and only because they're genetically nearly identical.

Different species have different number of chromosomes, and the evolution went through some pretty convoluted changes to get each species where it is now. That is only the beginning of the infinite little things that have to go exactly right to ensure a child is succesfully born. The slightest change to the system results in impossibility of survival of the child. For instance, out of 23 chromosome pairs human possesses, there lack of a single member of any pair except X chromosome results in miscarriage. Only three of them can be multiplied and still allow birth of a child, each with a wide array of pathological changes.
There's almost no chance another species in the universe would evolve to even look similar to humans in real life. Procreation between species hailing from different planets (asari obviously aside) would totally ruin the already stretched science of mass effect.
So far, they're doing splendid. The things that wouldn't work in real life are pretty well covered and all serve major storytelling purposes, enabling the story as a whole. What we're debating here would serve no other purpose than degrade this careful mix of science and fiction to the level of hocus pocus.
It works in fantasy because magic is inherent there, but in sci-fi, it would violate the most sacred principles of the genre.

Now let's just let this go and debate what the quarians' approach to adoption would be 

And chirality:
Umm, as for chirality in amino acids, it means all the difference in the world from a biological standpoint.

Majority of what builds our cells and bodies are proteins. It's the way they interact that causes the incredible machine we are working smoothly, from simple structural stability of our bodies to the regulation of myriad processes taking place inside us all the time.

All of this interaction is inevitably based on what shapes and conformation those proteins take, like building a jigsaw puzzle or a clockwork mechanism.

Every protein is a chain of amino acids linked together so that they assume some shape. This shape is key, as protein interaction usually works similar to a lock-and-key mechanism.

Chirality (what's hanging left and right in one particular place of the AA molecule) defines its entire geometry and shape; the difference is like between our left and right hands.The entire network, the entire clockwork mechanism, would have to be made differently because the wheels are different. If you took a random mix of both, you could never make it work because the proteins wouldn't fit together.



The only scientifically tenable way for Shepard and Tali to have a child would be to adopt one or use donor semen/surrogate mother.

Biologically engineering a child could also theoretically work in the ME universe. But not taking Shepard's DNA and building upon it.


Just drop it already!

If they do it, they'll wreck the science. Of course they can do it, but it'd make countless people die a little.

What type of education you recieved? just asking

[Jake71887]

RevanKun123 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Chemistry is boring  

Maybe it's time to post something...anything that will make them stop talking about it.

...

[epoch_]

woops

Modifié par epoch_, 27 février 2010 - 10:10 .

[wolfstanus]

runescapeguy9 wrote...

RevanKun123 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Chemistry is boring  

Maybe it's time to post something...anything that will make them stop talking about it.

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I can't im /b/anned

[Aardvark-8]

Jake71887 wrote...

Chemistry is boring  

It needed to be said.
Reading ignorant post was burning 
 my brains out 

[alickar]

Levi va Normandy wrote...

why wud u put her dead

[Levi va Normandy]

 LOL SUPER SPAM!!! 

[RevanKun123]

Jake71887 wrote...

I regret saying anything.

[Jake71887]

RevanKun123 wrote...

I regret saying anything.

You know you love it, I see through your charade 

[Aardvark-8]

Oh, and I'm studying medicine and natural sciences, predominantly cell biology, biochemistry and mollecular genetics.



So I kind of know what I'm talking about. I just hope I put it everything right, I'm not a native english speaker...