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Garrus Love and Adoration v.2


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It's possible that they may have new love interests. I prefer they do not and just focus on the ones they already have though. And if they must, they should probably include a M/M option since Mass Effect doesn't have any yet. Not my cup of tea, but some people seem to want that option.



I don't think you'd be able to romance say Garrus or Jacob (or any ME1/ME2 love interest) in ME3 if you didn't in ME2. These two already have romances in ME3, it is rather inefficient to (effectively) write another romance subplot just for those who elected to romance them in ME3 rather than ME2.



If you don't romance anyone in ME1, I don't think Kaidan/Ashley/Liara will be competition. The only way I'd see them actively trying to tear Shepard away from the ME2 love interest would be if you romanced Kaidan/Ashley/Liara. Otherwise, probably not.

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Good points Collider, things are complicated as they are now, no need to make it worse if we can avoid it.

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Collider wrote...

It's possible that they may have new love interests. I prefer they do not and just focus on the ones they already have though. And if they must, they should probably include a M/M option since Mass Effect doesn't have any yet. Not my cup of tea, but some people seem to want that option.

I don't think you'd be able to romance say Garrus or Jacob (or any ME1/ME2 love interest) in ME3 if you didn't in ME2. These two already have romances in ME3, it is rather inefficient to (effectively) write another romance subplot just for those who elected to romance them in ME3 rather than ME2.

If you don't romance anyone in ME1, I don't think Kaidan/Ashley/Liara will be competition. The only way I'd see them actively trying to tear Shepard away from the ME2 love interest would be if you romanced Kaidan/Ashley/Liara. Otherwise, probably not.


I mention the possibility because even though I believe your final decision SHOULD be based on past imports, bioware might pander to the newbies who just want to play the third game and allow them to romance a batch of new people (rather not) or allow them to have their pick of anyone from the past two games. Again I would rather Bioware be smart and make it so that you can only have that finalized romance IF you import from past games, you don't get special cameos if you didn't play previous games so it should be the same regarding romance.

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Collider wrote...

It's possible that they may have new love interests. I prefer they do not and just focus on the ones they already have though. And if they must, they should probably include a M/M option since Mass Effect doesn't have any yet. Not my cup of tea, but some people seem to want that option.

I don't think you'd be able to romance say Garrus or Jacob (or any ME1/ME2 love interest) in ME3 if you didn't in ME2. These two already have romances in ME3, it is rather inefficient to (effectively) write another romance subplot just for those who elected to romance them in ME3 rather than ME2.

If you don't romance anyone in ME1, I don't think Kaidan/Ashley/Liara will be competition. The only way I'd see them actively trying to tear Shepard away from the ME2 love interest would be if you romanced Kaidan/Ashley/Liara. Otherwise, probably not.


I really think they shouldn't add new characters in ME3, because they already have enough bread on their plate, as the French would say: ME2 introduced some wonderful characters that should definitely be kept around for ME3, and the ME1 LIs are pretty much guaranteed to return. That being said, they still might throw in some new faces, if only to try to attract some newcomers to the series. I personally think that it's silly to get into a series on the last installment, but I'm sure it'll happen anyway. And if they add new characters, chances are those characters will also be new LIs (or at least some of them).

As for whether the old LIs should still be romanceable for those that didn't romance anyone in ME1 or ME2, it's probably easier for them not to be. If it means that all of the ME2 squaddies get to come back, then I'm all for them not being romanceable anymore: my Sheps are all happily paired off (well...except my faithful to Kaidan Shep...she still needs a goddamn apology, and it better be a good one, not an email), and I really don't see them dumping Garrus for Jacob or Tali for Miranda. And if people weren't interested in any of the LIs before, chances are they still won't be, come ME3.

Bottom line: if they're introducing new characters anyway, might as well throw in some new romances. If they're not, then there shouldn't be any new romance starting options: just focus on the existing romances and flesh them out.

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It was strongly implied in one of Hudson's interviews (which I can't find at the moment to link, sorry) that the ME1 LI plot in ME3 would only develop if you'd romanced them in 1, not that you could do anything w/them when they show up again in 3. I'm assuming, then, that they'd be doing the same thing w/the ME2 LI's, which would be good. (Kinda like how you can't romance Garrus in ME2 if you didn't recruit him in 1.)

However, with their repeated insistence that it be possible to jump into the trilogy at any point, that means they'll need some new characters for new players. I hope they only add, say, three, so you've got three main classes for any balance issues, and one of them will romance any Shep ever. *snorts* Cause we really do have way too many squad mates and potential LI's already, so I really hope they don't go too crazy.

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Wait, you really can't romance him if you never recruited him? The non-import game assumes you didn't recruit him, doesn't it?

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The more the merrier, right?

/ducks



Ok but seriously... I think they might have replacement new characters for any "role" or plot function you might have screwed yourself over in by letting die in ME2. Or maybe not. (Consequences, right?)



I'm all for another batch of LIs to tempt fate with (I have Shepards to spare... but the main sticks with the turian) but I wouldn't want that if it's going to cut into the other characters time.



They will probably provide for noobies and they'll probably deliver for oldies. I'm being really optimistic about it. It's a rarity.



And there's nothing on the wiki indicating you can't romance Garrus if you didn't recruit him in 1. Would be kinda silly. Does Tali have a similar caveat? (Since there's a possibility you never picked her up in 1 as well.)

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Ahahahhahahha

Image IPB

Brohug



Oh and regarding the earlier comic I posted, I know he can't drink it, but it's still funny! That HAT! XD

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Sialater wrote...

Wait, you really can't romance him if you never recruited him? The non-import game assumes you didn't recruit him, doesn't it?


Huh? Image IPB That's the first I've ever heard of this. Didn't someone on this board (I think it was janeym27) attempt a "didn't recruit Garrus in ME1" playthrough for science? I don't remember her mentioning anything about him not being romanceable in ME2 if you didn't recruit him in ME1. The Wiki doesn't say anything to that effect either. Plus, how is it being fair to ME2 newcomers if they have less LI options than veterans?

And lol @ brohug.

Garrus: Shepard...?
Shepard: Hmm?
Garrus: This is supposed to be a brohug, right?
Shepard: Sure is.
Garrus: Then why are you grabbing my ass...?

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 10 juin 2010 - 02:43 .


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I'm pretty sure you can romance Garrus with an non-recruitment import or default F!Shepard. Haven't tested this out myself though. Flammie a long while back said that he picked up ME2 without playing ME1, and romanced Garrus.

Anyways, I agree with you Nilfalasiel. I expect to see new characters and possible new romances. I'd rather, as you said, they keep the new additions to a minimal though, because we already have a great cast.

@Jacob and Garrus picture: :blink:

Modifié par Collider, 10 juin 2010 - 02:54 .


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Collider wrote...

@Jacob and Garrus picture: :blink:


Oh...it was Jacob...

...I totally knew that Image IPB

Ignore my brohug dialogue then, lol. Jacob would never grab Garrus' ass.

(How did I NOT realize that it was Jacob...?)

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Looked around for a minute and found the context for the picture:
www.johnnywander.com/comics/172

I'm still a bit :blink: though.

Modifié par Collider, 10 juin 2010 - 03:07 .


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Oh right I've seen that one before XD

Still funny. XD

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silentstephi wrote...

And there's nothing on the wiki indicating you can't romance Garrus if you didn't recruit him in 1. Would be kinda silly. Does Tali have a similar caveat? (Since there's a possibility you never picked her up in 1 as well.)





Wait, what? How does the game progress if you don't get her proof that Saren's a traitor?

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Lemonwizard wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

And there's nothing on the wiki indicating you can't romance Garrus if you didn't recruit him in 1. Would be kinda silly. Does Tali have a similar caveat? (Since there's a possibility you never picked her up in 1 as well.)



Wait, what? How does the game progress if you don't get her proof that Saren's a traitor?

I'm pretty sure you can get her proof and then tell her to Eff off afterwards.  But I'm not sure.  I heard somewhere that you could play ME1 with just the humans and Liara (since she's plot.)

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silentstephi wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

And there's nothing on the wiki indicating you can't romance Garrus if you didn't recruit him in 1. Would be kinda silly. Does Tali have a similar caveat? (Since there's a possibility you never picked her up in 1 as well.)



Wait, what? How does the game progress if you don't get her proof that Saren's a traitor?

I'm pretty sure you can get her proof and then tell her to Eff off afterwards.  But I'm not sure.  I heard somewhere that you could play ME1 with just the humans and Liara (since she's plot.)


Seems to me that Shepard would be a candidate for Cerberus sympathizer.

But a game without Garrus????  :o

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But a game without Garrus????

Nooooooo!

Modifié par Collider, 10 juin 2010 - 03:41 .


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silentstephi wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

And there's nothing on the wiki indicating you can't romance Garrus if you didn't recruit him in 1. Would be kinda silly. Does Tali have a similar caveat? (Since there's a possibility you never picked her up in 1 as well.)



Wait, what? How does the game progress if you don't get her proof that Saren's a traitor?

I'm pretty sure you can get her proof and then tell her to Eff off afterwards.  But I'm not sure.  I heard somewhere that you could play ME1 with just the humans and Liara (since she's plot.)


Doesn't Udina force you to take her with you if you decline her help? At least, I thought so. It's been a long time since I tried that dialogue option.

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Xsause wrote...

Doesn't Udina force you to take her with you if you decline her help? At least, I thought so. It's been a long time since I tried that dialogue option.


Yes, IIRC, Garrus and Wrex are the only optional squadmates.

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Collider wrote...

But a game without Garrus????

Nooooooo!



Exactly! 

It just can't happen.

#25546
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A pole would magically come out of nowhere and beat you to death if you didn't recruit wrex and garrus.



Its called natural selection.

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I could totally NOT play ME1 sans Garrus just for one line of dialogue :P

I wonder what his reactions are during his LM though... does he assume your a paragon or renegade or does the game register which you lean toward and have him say things accordingly? To reflect on what he perceived your 'tude to be?

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silentstephi wrote...

I could totally NOT play ME1 sans Garrus just for one line of dialogue :P
I wonder what his reactions are during his LM though... does he assume your a paragon or renegade or does the game register which you lean toward and have him say things accordingly? To reflect on what he perceived your 'tude to be?


The only way to know for sure is to recruit him in 1.  And despite my starting a single Shep game... I couldn't not recruit him.

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Wait a tic... where do you ever come across Sidonus's first name?!

I've seen it twice now, once in pen-gen's origins for Garrus and there's a guy on facebook called Lantar Sidonus.

Where did Lantar come from?

MUST KNOW!?!?!

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silentstephi wrote...

Wait a tic... where do you ever come across Sidonus's first name?!
I've seen it twice now, once in pen-gen's origins for Garrus and there's a guy on facebook called Lantar Sidonus.
Where did Lantar come from?
MUST KNOW!?!?!


News report on the Citadel. It says that a Lantar Sidonis admitted killing 10 men.

Modifié par Meltcare, 10 juin 2010 - 04:55 .