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Garrus Love and Adoration v.2


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Game Salesman wrote...

Xsause wrote...

Game Salesman wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

I'd like to see what the artists/designers for those CGI films would do with turians.
I mean... how do you make dead sexy even better? Oo

With modern technology, devs can make amazing things in games. I mean, have you seen Mass Effect 8?


OMG GAME SALESMAN.

You're like, one of my favorite ME characters! :lol:

Sorry, no discount for that.


Doesn't matter, I don't care about discounts. ^_^

So, any new games coming out in 2185?

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Game Salesman wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

I'd like to see what the artists/designers for those CGI films would do with turians.
I mean... how do you make dead sexy even better? Oo

With modern technology, devs can make amazing things in games. I mean, have you seen Mass Effect 8?

Hello mr Game Salessalarian. You are one of my favorite characters in the game. I was just wondering about a thing... You know those asari/hanar games they sell in Shin Akiba? I heard there is a human/turian downloadable contents coming to those games. Is this true? Just wondering for no reason... Thank you.

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Alexine wrote...

Here's the first part of Overlord on youtube

Thanks. :) When I tried to look, all I found was interviews about the DLC.

And now I want to know what happens in Mass Effect 8, even though it doesn't exist in our time period. xD Hopefully we won't have to wait until 2185...

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Cerrydd wrote...

And Casey never said that Tali was a chicken. They took her out as a LI in ME1 because they thought people would think she was too young and because she has chicken legs. The chicken legs are a fact. The same as Garrus is a bird-like guy with an exoskeleton, who also gets compared with lizards, dinosaurs, kittehs, etc... that doesn't mean he doesn't like them. It's a learning thing for BW too, it's hard to predict who people are going to like most.


That part really sounds odd to me when you know that Liara is an LI. Proportionately, if an asari lives for 1000 years, Liara, being 106, is barely a teenager. Yes, I understand that it's not just proportional: she HAS been around for more than a century, and she does have science studies behind her and all that, meaning that asari do develop quicker than simple proportionality. But her entire attitude in ME1 was naive and awkward like a child's, more so than Tali's, IMO. I get the chicken legs argument, she does have them. But too young? She's 22 in ME1, that doesn't strike me as problematic. She'd be considered as an experienced adult in a JRPG Posted Image

But beyond that, both the chicken legs comment and the "bird-guy with an exoskeleton" comment just go to show how much appearance is paramount in a game. The majority of the gaming crowd out there isn't going to give much of a damn about how profound a character is: if it's a scantily clad female with huge bewbs, chances are she's going to be a big hit. It's why Miranda looks the way she does. It's why Morrigan has that Posted Image-inducing top on her, even though she certainly doesn't need it to be a fascinating character. It's sad, really, and the fact that the game developers are actually surprised at people showing preference for depth of character makes it even sadder. You'd think they'd know which of their characters are deeper and be happy when people like them, rather than DAT ASS or DEM BEWBS. Not go "huh...they like the bird-dude/chicken-leg girl? but...why?"

That being said...maybe they don't know which of their characters are deep, after all. This is about them expecting Jacob and Jack to be popular. Jacob's dialogue with Shep sounds like softcore pr0n, and he is utterly unremarkable and completely well-adjusted besides that. On the other hand, Jack is so far from being well-adjusted that she might as well be in a different galaxy, but actually has a touching, difficult romance (I can totally see the similarities with Morrigan, by the way). I can understand that they'd expect the latter to be interesting, because she is. But the former? How can they ever have considered those two on the same level? Boggle the mind, it does. Are you sure it's Jacob they expected to be popular among the male characters? Not Thane?

Other tidbits I've picked up on:

- The Alistair-Garrus comparison again? Aside from sarcasm and awkwardness, I don't see the similarities. Alistair is insecure in just about everything he does; even if you harden him, it still shows at times. However, he has no problems expressing feelings when it comes to it. He also has no problems dumping the Warden or throwing a hissy fit when you don't do things his way (despite him refusing to take charge). Garrus has the hardest time expressing his feelings, he's unquestionably loyal, no matter what Shep decides, even if he still has his opinions, and he doesn't have to be dragged kicking and screaming to take charge. Alistair is soft and has to be hardened. Garrus is hard and has to be softened. And yes, I realize what I've just typed Posted Image Also, yes, I actually like Alistair, surprising as it may seem.

- Overlord has no new squad interaction...I am disappoint. I wouldn't actually have expected there to be any...if they hadn't advertised it, dammit! Now what was the point of that?

I'll still buy it, the mission actually sounds interesting. But the false publicity is kind of a downer.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 16 juin 2010 - 10:11 .


#26305
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Also Tali seems mature way above her age, in most ways she is probably way smarter than Shepard for example.

Liara on the other hand feels a little too childlike to me. Her romance feels uncomfortable to me.

Garrus is mature enough. He does have that young rebel thing but he doesn't let it become a problem for Shepard.

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SOME OVERLORD SPOILERS:



Man, I was so disappointed in Overlord... I mean, sure... the mission was great but I expected more from the 'can be done after the Suicide Mission story-wise' to have more UMPH to it. Also, no new dialogue from Garrus anywhere in it. I wanted to cry. I wanted SOMETHING more.



Also, last battle can sit and spin. Just... wtf. (Granted, I jumped right on with Insanity... I forget my game is set to that these days.) And my computer kept bugging out in the Hammerhead sections and freezing up for several minutes as I drove around outside. I'm going to hope it was just a glitch that goes away because it was seriously pretty.



I'm still mad at the lack of new dialogue. >:| (Though the Dr.'s comment about Legion is you bring him made me smile.) But I mean... Even LEGION didn't have new comments to make as we ran around in the downed Geth Ship or talked about David and his little geth thine. >:| ARGH.

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I read what the developers said about making Tali a love interest in ME1 - there was no mention of her being too young. Just the chicken legs.
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I agree with Nilfalasiel in that the similarities between Alistair and Garrus aren't numerous. There's a certain level of awkwardness in their romances. They both have some guilt over the death of their friends - Alistair the Grey Wardens/Duncan, and Garrus his team. Alistair gets emotional about it, Garrus is just more motivated to confront the person who did it. They both use humor effectively.

That's where the similarities end, I think. Like Nilfalasiel said, Garrus is more unquestionably loyal, Alistair not as much...there are many things that can land approval loss or even have him leave you.

Garrus is more world weary and experienced. Garrus is more an introverted and introspective person. Even though he's more comfortable with black and white, I think Garrus is more willing to consider the world in shades - whereas Alistair's chantry/templar training had some of his morals determined for him. Alistair is more of an idealist, Garrus more of a realist.

That said, I like both of them. There are some similarities but nothing obvious.

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Cerrydd wrote...

Garrus didn't get a trailer because he's supposed to be a major spoiler. That's why his slot on the site is classified.


I don't like reading too much about things I'm about to play so I was well and truly surprised (quite delightfully surprised mind you) to discover that Archangel was Garrus!  All I had managed to figure out was that he was a Turian (and that was from the shadowy figure on your private terminal) I didnt even consider that it might be him, which was sort of strange after meeting up with Tali, I should have guessed.    Am I the only one?

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Buggirl70 wrote...

Cerrydd wrote...

Garrus didn't get a trailer because he's supposed to be a major spoiler. That's why his slot on the site is classified.


I don't like reading too much about things I'm about to play so I was well and truly surprised (quite delightfully surprised mind you) to discover that Archangel was Garrus!  All I had managed to figure out was that he was a Turian (and that was from the shadowy figure on your private terminal) I didnt even consider that it might be him, which was sort of strange after meeting up with Tali, I should have guessed.    Am I the only one?



I only knew Archangel was a turian after talking to Garm.  So, no.  You're not the only one.

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Collider wrote...

I read what the developers said about making Tali a love interest in ME1 - there was no mention of her being too young. Just the chicken legs.



Guest-56: is Tali a romance option?


CaseyH-ME2: In ME1 Tali was kind of a young character, on her "pilgrimage", so she wasn't a love interest option.


From here. I'm pretty sure I also read it somewhere else, but I can't seem to find it.

@ Buggirl: Sadly, I already spoiled the Archangel part. I only watched the teaser and the trailer, but I got impatient and wanted to see how Wrex was going to return (BECAUSE I LOVED HIM SOOO MUUUUCH) (still do). Looked it up on the Wiki, and then it happened that I also read Archangel = Garrus. I quickly closed the browser after that :P. The romance was still a big surprise though.

@ Kotori: Sad to hear that you are disappointed. I was very impressed with Overlord. The ending had so much impact on me that I can't stop thinking about it today :s.

Modifié par Cerrydd, 16 juin 2010 - 01:41 .


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Yeah, Cerrydd, the end was really good. The mission itself was good. The combat wasn't as hard as I thought except in a few places(or I've just played it too much. I had to double check it was on Insanity because stuff died FAST for me... ehe) but I was just expecting... MORE. Had I not been expecting more, I would have utterly loved it.



Oh well.

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lol, I put it on Veteran. I completely forgot that the last time I played ME2 was when Kasumi came out. That was... a long time ago. Almost instantly DIED. Also forgot that my crappy slow laptop is more of a pain in the ass with ME2 than with DA:O. Geez, I missed so many shots :D.

The only thing that bugs me is that there is still no save option when you're in the Hammerhead. Either I am a very lousy driver or BW can't make vehicles, but I had to reload some parts because I kept ending up in lava.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next DLCs. As far as I know, this was the last DLC to be played during the main missions. The rest should be bridging the gap between ME2 and 3.

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Lord, I hope so. I also hope they pony up some more dialogue and stuff with the crew. Heck, I don't care if it's just talk with Kelly(okay, yes I do care... but I'm making a point) but I want SOMETHING. Or else I'm really going to find other things to occupy myself and that's just tragic.



....actually, I'm getting re-obsessed with Old Republic again. ~_~ I think I'd die if I could get in on the beta for that, but I'm never that lucky. XD I do hope they don't make it look like that Clone Wars show/movie/bs... that would just make me hella sad after the amazing graphics in DA:O and ME2... :{

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I played through Overlord last night. Pretty good, although yeah, I would have liked some party dialogue. I brought Garrus and Tali with me--they're my default geth pwning team.

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ciaweth wrote...

I played through Overlord last night. Pretty good, although yeah, I would have liked some party dialogue. I brought Garrus and Tali with me--they're my default geth pwning team.


I read something some time that had them (Garrus, Tali, and Shep) bragging about how quickly they could bring down geth with Macguyver tools.

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I took Legion and Garrus with me and I played my main, the Infiltrator. Go Team Sniper! But yeah, I like taking them on Geth hunts. Mwahaha.



I was just so sad there was no party dialogue, esp considering who I was bringing. :{ I mean... seriously?

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I actually had to get back into the feel of my Vanguard. Been playing the Sentinel/Engineer for the past few weeks and forgot that charging into the middle of a bunch of people was a bad idea...
Whoopsie. XD

But Vanguard is like riding a bike for me; just takes one or two booboos and then I'm back on my game (in Hardcore, Insanity makes me weep like school girl who got beat up for her lunch money. )

Al/Garrus correlation - I know, dead horse.
Yes, they are very different.
Yes, they have maybe one or two things a like.
It just happens to be that those things they do share (WITTY SARCASM and sezzy voice) makes my clothes melt.

And awww, Legion doesn't have any lines? Drat, well, I guess I'll just
bring Legion and Tali along on my Engineer for the lulz.
Because
seriously... I would have thought those two out of ALL your squad mates,
would at least try and thump Archer over the head.

edit... weird... my post got all flumbled. Oo

Modifié par silentstephi, 16 juin 2010 - 04:41 .


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I wanted to put a bullet in him. I was too paragon to do it but... the urge was RIGHT THERE. I wish Garrus had decked him in the nose, though. Or headbutted him. Something.

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COMING SOON:

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MY OVERLORD SCREENIES! :3

XSAUSE PLUGS IN THE OVERLORD, SO NOW YOU HAVE TO SPEND ALL DAY COMPUTING PI. KTHXBAI.



I liked Overlord. I really hadn't expected it to be so...dark, I guess. The atmosphere was awesome, the environment was gorgeous, and the ending really gets you thinking. True, there's no squad dialogue, but your squad does get some awesome moments.


ON ANOTHER NOTE:




...So I was bored today and, using Gibbed's save editor, decided to do the unspeakable.

I changed Shepard's gender to male before hitting the Omega 4 relay.

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SING WITH ME!

Guy love,

That's all it is,

Guy love,

He's mine, I'm his,

There's nothing gay about it in our eyes...



/grabs flame shield

Modifié par Xsause, 16 juin 2010 - 05:02 .


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I had a very Muppet day yesterday.
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Video for reference. :3

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Re: Overlord



Even though there isn't verbal interaction, there's actually a nice squad moment that's easy to miss. Towards the end when your squad blows the arms off that Loki and it silly walks away...don't take the interrupt to finish it off. In my Shep's case Garrus blew its head off, and Shep gives him this awesome 'you are so juvenile' look, followed by an equally hilarious 'What?!' shrug from Garrus. I'm sure whoever is the senior renegade on your team takes the shot, but I could imagine this being equally funny with Grunt.



Anyway, just a little crumb for those of us going into Garrus withdrawal, and easy to miss since most people usually take the interrupts by reflex.

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Suz. Good lord! I need to see this now. XD



Besides, I want to see what the renegade options are for the end, I'll play it again. (I'm still having a hard time justifying the renegade options for this one. I like being a Renegade, but not cruel and stupid.)

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silentstephi wrote...

Besides, I want to see what the renegade options are for the end, I'll play it again. (I'm still having a hard time justifying the renegade options for this one. I like being a Renegade, but not cruel and stupid.)


lol, you read my mind. I was about to ask you that :D

edit: oh and Fia, that's cute ^^

Modifié par Cerrydd, 16 juin 2010 - 05:20 .


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Glad to hear you guys enjoyed Overlord. :) I'll have to keep checking youtube and the ME Wiki to get the whole story. I'm looking forward to those screenshots too.

For the Garrus and Alistair comparison, I don't really see it either. I think a lot of people just like both. Garrus is my favorite squadmate, but I don't care much for Alistair. (He's one of the few characters who will actually get a good ending out of my current playthrough though.)

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 16 juin 2010 - 06:23 .


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SPOILERS AHEAD, BEWARE!



OK... just did Renegade.

Man. Oh. Man.

THAT WAS HARD.

I actually got up and walked away for a minute before I was able to click "The project needs him."

And... god, UGH. You make a good point, but I DON'T WANT THIS CRAP IN CERBERUS'S HANDS. You backhand Archer, hooray... (haha no paragon interrupt to do it you just b!tch slap him) and then say the only reason you're letting him take care of him is to prevent a war... but STILL.

Gah.

Well, I'm glad about the Paragon option for this one. Simply put: I renegaded the Geth Heretics, so they're all exploded, I won't need to worry too much about an overwhelming Geth force. :P

So there. Totally NOT ABLE to have a PT with David still in the project. Nope. Not gonna happen.

It's too hard to justify. WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO HOOK A GUY WHO BY DEFINITION IS NOT ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE UP AS THE ROBOT JESUS TO CONTROL ROBOTS?!?!?!?1

WTF?!

Cerberus FAILS, so freakin' HARD.

I need some Garrus love to wash that out of my brain...

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Oooh it's a headbump XD

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Ok the expressions here are fab (I know, repost but his wide eye + her cat ate canary look =win)

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Hehe, you get that armless DEFENSELESS POOR MECH YOU BIG MEANIE HEAD. (Ok not really but still XD)