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[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Honigkuchenpferd87 wrote...

Well but C-Sec doesn't arrest him because Omega is outside Citadel jurisdiction. So he's still free.

C-sec doesn't arrest him, he turns himself in.

[Cerrydd]

siltsonata wrote...

Gerse1 wrote...
YEAHHHHH.   I want a male quarian on the team...I don't know if it's just b/c he's Adam Baldwin or what, but Reegar was starting to make me see a little of the allure all those Talimancers have been talking about.  Also, was it me or was he flirting with Tali?  If you don't/can't romance her, I think they should be able to get together.  Same goes for other squadmates, doesn't have to be every single one paired off, but it would be cute to have a couple of side-stories were they start taking an interest in sapient individuals other than Shepard.

This.  All of it.  I would like to know that some of my squaddies have romantic inclinations beyond the massive ball of sex appeal that is Commander Shepard. 

Imaginary dillemma:

A Virmirish situation in ME3. You can either save your LI (Garrus in this case ) OR the LI of one of your beloved squadmates. Who would you save?

*mind overheats*

[Soahfreako]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Soahfreako wrote...

siltsonata wrote...

Honigkuchenpferd87 wrote...

Yes, the hero of Haestrom! The man they call Kal'Reegar!

100% pure, unfiltered WIN.  Now with more Vitamin K.

aynxalot wrote...

I wonder if at least some of the possible 'replacements' for potentially dead characters weren't given a preview. (These are just suggestions....obviously I have no idea. )

Tali --> Kal'Reegar
Thane --> Kolyat
Grunt --> Er, not sure. We met a few possible krogan on Tuchanka.
Mordin --> Forget his name, but the nephew he mentioned
Miranda --> Oriana. /captainobvious (however, given how hard it is to kill only Miranda...)
Samara/Morinth --> There were 2 other daughters. Or just get Liara back.
Jacob --> Why do I get the feeling he's just gonna be booted out to make room for Kaidan (if alive)?
Jack --> Same as Jacob, but w/ Ashley. If either ME1 char is dead, no idea who replaces these two.
Garrus --> Tricky. Could be the female mentioned, otherwise we've met a whole slew of named turians.
Zaeed/Kasumi(?) --> Stay or go. Not really plot-sensitive, here.
Otherwise they could just have empty, unrecruitable slots left for dead chars. Makes equally as much sense, really. Though if you have a fully living squad, I find it unlikely they're going to add in the ME1's without taking some of the ME2's away.

I think Sidonis (if you went paragon) would be a likely character in ME3, since he does say he'll find someway to repay Garrus. Could be that he'll be a squadmate or he'll help you out in the final battle, or something along those lines.

Actually if i remember correctly, sidonis turned himself in to C-Sec for the murder of 10 people. And i don't think anyone is replacing garrus if you did his loyalty mission and survived the suicide mission.

And I didn't mean replace. I just meant that he could come back because of what happened at the end of this^.

[siltsonata]

Cerrydd wrote...

siltsonata wrote...

Gerse1 wrote...
YEAHHHHH.   I want a male quarian on the team...I don't know if it's just b/c he's Adam Baldwin or what, but Reegar was starting to make me see a little of the allure all those Talimancers have been talking about.  Also, was it me or was he flirting with Tali?  If you don't/can't romance her, I think they should be able to get together.  Same goes for other squadmates, doesn't have to be every single one paired off, but it would be cute to have a couple of side-stories were they start taking an interest in sapient individuals other than Shepard.

This.  All of it.  I would like to know that some of my squaddies have romantic inclinations beyond the massive ball of sex appeal that is Commander Shepard. 

Imaginary dillemma:

A Virmirish situation in ME3. You can either save your LI (Garrus in this case ) OR the LI of one of your beloved squadmates. Who would you save?

*mind overheats*

Psh, Garrus.   No contest.  I love my squaddies but...not that much.

[Gerse1]

WRT Sidonis in ME3 (this got kind of long):

Yeah, I have been wondering whether Sidonis could possibly be your way to get some turian support during the final battle.

We
already know that our live-or-die decisions about Wrex, the Rachni, the
Geth Heretics, and the Council are likely going to affect who all is on
Shepard's side in the final battle.  Add to that the quarians, successfully keeping them from going to war and thus preserving the fleet (and also not getting Tali exiled).  The asari...not sure yet, maybe Samara has influence on her people as a justicar, and Liara as well depending on how powerful she makes herself.  Perhaps there will be similar decisions for the volus and lesser races in ME3, who knows.  Even Mordin has contacts in the STG.

As for the turians, well Garrus has no influence.  Once the reapers actually show up I'm sure their military would attack, but I get the feeling that one of the themes of ME3 will be "gathering your armies" instead of "gathering your team" alone.  So it's probably better to have the turian military already prepared.  But how? To me it seems obvious Bioware has made the Council so hateable in order to make earning their support a true challenge -- but the reward will likely be huge.  So I guess finally getting the Council on your side (if they aren't secretly already, as that very clever fanmade "diary" of the turian councillor suggested) would be one avenue of turian military support. 

Failing that, it makes me wonder whether Sidonis's live-or-die decision will somehow have an affect.  We have no idea whether he has influence with the turian hierarchy...the fact that he was vigilante-ing on Omega makes it seem less likely.  But, we don't know how much time will pass between ME2 and 3.  There's also the possibility he knows Garrus's father or something, will tell him what's going on with Garrus, we don't know anything about Papa Vakarian or his level of influence.  Of course if he were some big general Garrus would have mentioned it, but who knows, maybe he has friends in high places, especially on the Citadel. 

I guess it just seems like Garrus is the only alien in your party so far that doesn't have any influence on the behavior of his species as a whole (either literally or just as a cause and effect element of the plot). Other than Thane.  But there aren't a lot of drell to begin with.

General Septimus may be another turian ally....awww I hope he shows up again. I liked him.  Maybe if you don't solve his problems with Shai'ira he just becomes a sad drunk, but if you do, he leads a fleet ME3. 

[onibontan]

Yes!! Septimus should totally return for ME3.

And what I meant was that C-Sec release Sidonis after he turns himself in. At least it's unlikely that they convict him for crimes commited on Omega.

Modifié par Honigkuchenpferd87, 09 mars 2010 - 05:51 .

[Sialater]

Gerse1 wrote...

WRT Sidonis in ME3 (this got kind of long):

Yeah, I have been wondering whether Sidonis could possibly be your way to get some turian support during the final battle.

We
already know that our live-or-die decisions about Wrex, the Rachni, the
Geth Heretics, and the Council are likely going to affect who all is on
Shepard's side in the final battle.  Add to that the quarians, successfully keeping them from going to war and thus preserving the fleet (and also not getting Tali exiled).  The asari...not sure yet, maybe Samara has influence on her people as a justicar, and Liara as well depending on how powerful she makes herself.  Perhaps there will be similar decisions for the volus and lesser races in ME3, who knows.  Even Mordin has contacts in the STG.

As for the turians, well Garrus has no influence.  Once the reapers actually show up I'm sure their military would attack, but I get the feeling that one of the themes of ME3 will be "gathering your armies" instead of "gathering your team" alone.  So it's probably better to have the turian military already prepared.  But how? To me it seems obvious Bioware has made the Council so hateable in order to make earning their support a true challenge -- but the reward will likely be huge.  So I guess finally getting the Council on your side (if they aren't secretly already, as that very clever fanmade "diary" of the turian councillor suggested) would be one avenue of turian military support. 

Failing that, it makes me wonder whether Sidonis's live-or-die decision will somehow have an affect.  We have no idea whether he has influence with the turian hierarchy...the fact that he was vigilante-ing on Omega makes it seem less likely.  But, we don't know how much time will pass between ME2 and 3.  There's also the possibility he knows Garrus's father or something, will tell him what's going on with Garrus, we don't know anything about Papa Vakarian or his level of influence.  Of course if he were some big general Garrus would have mentioned it, but who knows, maybe he has friends in high places, especially on the Citadel. 

I guess it just seems like Garrus is the only alien in your party so far that doesn't have any influence on the behavior of his species as a whole (either literally or just as a cause and effect element of the plot). Other than Thane.  But there aren't a lot of drell to begin with.

General Septimus may be another turian ally....awww I hope he shows up again. I liked him.  Maybe if you don't solve his problems with Shai'ira he just becomes a sad drunk, but if you do, he leads a fleet ME3. 

Septimus was already retired, though.

[siltsonata]

Sialater wrote...

Septimus was already retired, though.

Fur Realz?    I thought "She rejected me. Me! Septimus Oraka! General of the Turian Fleet!" implied current.  Does he say he's retired? (Or maybe I'm not remembering that quote quite right....)

[Sialater]

siltsonata wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Septimus was already retired, though.

Fur Realz?    I thought "She rejected me. Me! Septimus Oraka! General of the Turian Fleet!" implied current.  Does he say he's retired? (Or maybe I'm not remembering that quote quite right....)

Yeah, he says he's retired I'm pretty sure. 

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

siltsonata wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Septimus was already retired, though.

Fur Realz?    I thought "She rejected me. Me! Septimus Oraka! General of the Turian Fleet!" implied current.  Does he say he's retired? (Or maybe I'm not remembering that quote quite right....)

Yep, hes retired. Though i think it would be cool to meet with that other turian, that one C-sec officer who you did a mission for in Chora's den. Whats his name...Chellik?

[siltsonata]

Sialater wrote...

siltsonata wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Septimus was already retired, though.

Fur Realz?    I thought "She rejected me. Me! Septimus Oraka! General of the Turian Fleet!" implied current.  Does he say he's retired? (Or maybe I'm not remembering that quote quite right....)

Yeah, he says he's retired I'm pretty sure. 

Hm.  Just watched it again.  While he never outright say it, he certainly implies it. He keeps saying how long he's been doing it and how tired he is...at first I wondered why he would still be General Septimus if he was not longer general, but I think they keep their rank even after they retire.  I would guess you're correct.

[Cerrydd]

siltsonata wrote...

Cerrydd wrote...

Imaginary dillemma:

A Virmirish situation in ME3. You can either save your LI (Garrus in this case ) OR the LI of one of your beloved squadmates. Who would you save?

*mind overheats*

Psh, Garrus.   No contest.  I love my squaddies but...not that much.

Lol, really? Even though it's just imaginary, this has me thinking a lot more than the original Virmire situation. I didn't like Kaidan nor Ashley so I just randomly picked one. In fact, I keep forgetting who I Virmired, so it's always a surprise for me who I'll encounter on Horizon.

It it's Miranda/Jacob/Jack, I would leave them behind without regret. The others however... my Shep would feel like an ass.

[Sialater]

Cerrydd wrote...

siltsonata wrote...

Cerrydd wrote...

Imaginary dillemma:

A Virmirish situation in ME3. You can either save your LI (Garrus in this case ) OR the LI of one of your beloved squadmates. Who would you save?

*mind overheats*

Psh, Garrus.   No contest.  I love my squaddies but...not that much.

Lol, really? Even though it's just imaginary, this has me thinking a lot more than the original Virmire situation. I didn't like Kaidan nor Ashley so I just randomly picked one. In fact, I keep forgetting who I Virmired, so it's always a surprise for me who I'll encounter on Horizon.

It it's Miranda/Jacob/Jack, I would leave them behind without regret. The others however... my Shep would feel like an ass.

I'd have a problem leaving Kal'Reegar behind because I'd feel like I was killing Jayne.  But even the Shepards who don't romance him would save Garrus.

[onibontan]

I don't want another Virmire in ME3. Garrus already went through survivor's guilt, he doesn't need anymore of that crap

[silentstephi]

Honigkuchenpferd87 wrote...

I don't want another Virmire in ME3. Garrus already went through survivor's guilt, he doesn't need anymore of that crap

Exactly.  No more Virmire's please. It was awesome for Me1.  Not going to be awesome for ME3.  Although now I'm worried that you'll be losing just more than 1 squaddie since you've got 12 of them to choose from.  Makes me wonder who's going to survive till the end.  Like one of those, it'syour squaddies or you, you and only select squaddies, etc....

[Cerrydd]

I would love to see a new Virmire. As long as they keep Garrus out of it.

But maybe I'm just weird

[Sialater]

No more choosing between teammates. It would cheapen my killing Ashley on Virmire 500 times.

[sergio71785]

I'm too late with this, but I support Garrus for ME3!

[silentstephi]

Ok, I need some help here. If anyone here is a Roman expert, maybe this theory might pan out. If not, it's still fun!



So Ms. Cherrisa gave me the thought that even though we don't have a correlation between Turian tattoos and the colonies they hail from, if you check out the wiki article with a bunch of the colony names, the trivia mentions that all the colonies are named after various Roman conquests.



Since some turians seemed to not have very Roman-esque names, it's got me thinking, maybe that's because they took it from the area in which the Romans conquered. If so, then we might have a way to finagle which named turians come from which colonies. Help a fanatic out here! I know if I tried figuring out the origins of names, I'd go noisly mad. I'm probably going to be bugging a buddy of mine who's got a bachelors in history and majored in everything Roman. XD

[Ray Joel Oh]

Ehh, I hope they're not thinking of things in terms of replacing characters. That'd mean having all the animation, programming and dialogue of one character as well as that of another character that died or wasn't recruited. There are currently nine LIs people are hoping to see returned. If they just "replace" all the ones that could have died, that'd mean having 16 characters made, more than half of them inaccessible for any given playthrough. It's just not a reasonable thing to expect. They need to budget their money and their disc space.



Plus some of these "replacement" ideas are way too obvious.



Personally I hope there are fewer playable characters in the next game. I think having so many recruits in ME2 compromised the pacing of the story. And it seemed that more characters meant fewer interactions with each character, which was disappointing.

[Darth Ambika]

Cerrydd wrote...

I would love to see a new Virmire. As long as they keep Garrus out of it.

But maybe I'm just weird

I don't really mind that at all, aslong they're not putting Garrus AND Tali in that position because Shepard, Garrus and Tali are like the Han, Luke and Leia of the trilogy. It what makes them three more epic in the Mass Effect trilogy really.
Maybe just pick someone whom you don't like other than Garrus and Tali.

If they decide to put them, especially Garrus, in another Virimire option, I'm going to be a very very sad panda. T_T

[onibontan]

Hm then maybe we should first make a collection of the names of all named Turians we know of?? It certainly sounds interesting!

[Pacifien]

silentstephi wrote...
Exactly.  No more Virmire's please. It was awesome for Me1.  Not going to be awesome for ME3.  Although now I'm worried that you'll be losing just more than 1 squaddie since you've got 12 of them to choose from.  Makes me wonder who's going to survive till the end.  Like one of those, it'syour squaddies or you, you and only select squaddies, etc....

I was actually disappointed that, while I could lose people on the suicide run in ME2, it was incredibly easy for me not to. Though I wonder if that's the norm, because there are quite a lot of posts where people lost squadmates and couldn't figure out where they went wrong.

Most of me wanted someone to die on that run no matter what you do, loyalty or not, correct tech/biotic/fireteam leader or not. I'm a huge Zaeed fan, but being a DLC character, I could see him being a default death. Sometimes it ends a story arc quite nicely for a character to go out in the blaze of glory, too. (Okay, I admit, I agree with Harrison Ford that Han Solo should have died.)

Of course, my bloodthirst could bite me in the ass. I'm a huge Garrus fan, but all the dark energy in the galaxy would explode in a biotic ****storm if he died.... Maybe that's what the Reapers are trying to prevent: Biotic Shepard going insane with dark energy power after the loss of Garrus. But Garrus's story arc is definitely not over.

[silentstephi]

Darth Ambika wrote...

Cerrydd wrote...

I would love to see a new Virmire. As long as they keep Garrus out of it.

But maybe I'm just weird

I don't really mind that at all, aslong they're not putting Garrus AND Tali in that position because Shepard, Garrus and Tali are like the Han, Luke and Leia of the trilogy. It what makes them three more epic in the Mass Effect trilogy really.
Maybe just pick someone whom you don't like other than Garrus and Tali.

If they decide to put them, especially Garrus, in another Virimire option, I'm going to be a very very sad panda. T_T

I think I'd stop playing if I had to Virmire Garrus.

I really, really would.  Just shut off the game.  No completion.  Just done.  Not after they gave me Garrus for two games straight.
Just... nope.  The game wouldn't finish.  And I'd be SOOOO MAD.

[Timerider42]

falco117 wrote...

i want one 2, maybe that turian girl garrus talks about in da reach n flexibility story.
but id prefer sidonis or chellick to replace him

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