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[Nissun]

I wonder if it can be modded.

[Pannamaslo]

Cerrydd wrote...

I am not screwing Garrus. Seriously.

It also has femShep talking about Tali, Jack and Miranda. They probably recorded it, just in case. Still, I was like... wtf? Did I hear that right? lol.

It's the same with Thane and Tali. Some dialog was recorded, small part of it. The whole romance was never recorded, like it was done  for ME 1 and probably will never be. Sorry to be party pooper.

Modifié par Pannamaslo, 10 mars 2010 - 10:26 .

[janeym27]

silentstephi wrote...

Ms Cherissa wrote...

silentstephi wrote...
Sorry for the long quote... but that kind of convoluted story doesn't strike me as very Turian in origin.  More Salarian than Turian.  It's too.. under handed.  They seem to have this whole 'what you see is what you get' to their culture.  Deception on that kind of scale, or subtly on that level doesn't seem to be something that's turian nature.

I could be reading turians wrong, but that's just me.
And yea, my heart would explode too if Garrus really was some sort of double agent.  But I really don't think he is. (Right BioWare? Right?!)

And yet we know that some of the best Spectres are turian, and Spectres can do whatever they like to get the job done. We also know they use the term 'barefaced' and we've seen Sidonis betray his teammates.

Turians may, as a whole, be honorable and up front, but they are quite capable of deception, especially if it's for the greater good.

Garrus DID return to either C-Sec and/or Spectre training, depending on your playthrough. If word reached the Council that Cerberus had Shep's body and that project Lazarus was a go, yeah, I could see it.

I TOTALLY think it's not the case, but it'd sure make for some interesting ficlets.

True... grah.  I guess it's just no matter what it is, you can get blinded by popular perceptions.
I can see any culture worthy of something like that.  But if what we see is what we get with Garrus... I can't really see him as the type of person to carry out that kind of deception, ya know?  But that'd be one hell of a betrayal plot.  I know I'd have never seen it coming. 
Also /mourns her camera
The batteries don't give it the powah! 

You need to pick up some more power cells. Go check that abandoned space station....

Garrus does say he's not a very good Turien.... lol. I kid. Was just a thought. Would make for a kinda fun/heartbreaking twist. I certainly think there is a lot more to Garrus' backstory than we'v had so far. Hopefully, we get to find that out.

Also, re: the awesome dialogue posts people. Nice. Thanks!

I find it crazy that they are uneasy about same sex relationships, but inter-species doin' it is A-OK!  Especially for FemShep - She flirts with EVERYONE!

[Ms Cherissa]

"Different style of storytelling (for ME than for DA:O)" my foot. Yeah, I can accept that, I really can, it's cool. EXCEPT FOR THE PART WHERE THE SAME SEX DIALOGUES WERE RECORDED - and included! - which suggests the 'different storytelling' thing is kind of a CYA from BioWare.



On the flip side of it all, it's an amazing story as it stands, and has changed what I want out of my video game experience now. I want an ME MMO so very much.



I'd even be okay with it if it took place a few centuries after the events of the ME trilogy and we never saw Garrus Vakarian in it. See how I snuck Garrus in there?

[Pannamaslo]

Ms Cherissa wrote...

"Different style of storytelling (for ME than for DA:O)" my foot. Yeah, I can accept that, I really can, it's cool. EXCEPT FOR THE PART WHERE THE SAME SEX DIALOGUES WERE RECORDED - and included! - which suggests the 'different storytelling' thing is kind of a CYA from BioWare.

On the flip side of it all, it's an amazing story as it stands, and has changed what I want out of my video game experience now. I want an ME MMO so very much.

I'd even be okay with it if it took place a few centuries after the events of the ME trilogy and we never saw Garrus Vakarian in it. See how I snuck Garrus in there?

They didn't even record the whole dialog this time around. I wonder why they actually did these few lines though...

[Cerrydd]

Pannamaslo wrote...

Ms Cherissa wrote...

"Different style of storytelling (for ME than for DA:O)" my foot. Yeah, I can accept that, I really can, it's cool. EXCEPT FOR THE PART WHERE THE SAME SEX DIALOGUES WERE RECORDED - and included! - which suggests the 'different storytelling' thing is kind of a CYA from BioWare.

On the flip side of it all, it's an amazing story as it stands, and has changed what I want out of my video game experience now. I want an ME MMO so very much.

I'd even be okay with it if it took place a few centuries after the events of the ME trilogy and we never saw Garrus Vakarian in it. See how I snuck Garrus in there?

They didn't even record the whole dialog this time around. I wonder why they actually did these few lines though...

Yep, I haven't found any other dialogue yet, just the Mordin advice. To me it's not weird that they once recorded these things, I just think it's weird it's still included on the disc.

[Sigma Tauri]

Nevermind. Found answer about the files.

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 10 mars 2010 - 10:40 .

[Damsel of Distress]

Cerrydd wrote...

I am not screwing Garrus. Seriously.

It also has femShep talking about Tali, Jack and Miranda. They probably recorded it, just in case. Still, I was like... wtf? Did I hear that right? lol.

Urghh...monotone.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Ms Cherissa wrote...

silentstephi wrote...
Sorry for the long quote... but that kind of convoluted story doesn't strike me as very Turian in origin.  More Salarian than Turian.  It's too.. under handed.  They seem to have this whole 'what you see is what you get' to their culture.  Deception on that kind of scale, or subtly on that level doesn't seem to be something that's turian nature.

I could be reading turians wrong, but that's just me.
And yea, my heart would explode too if Garrus really was some sort of double agent.  But I really don't think he is. (Right BioWare? Right?!)

And yet we know that some of the best Spectres are turian, and Spectres can do whatever they like to get the job done. We also know they use the term 'barefaced' and we've seen Sidonis betray his teammates.

Turians may, as a whole, be honorable and up front, but they are quite capable of deception, especially if it's for the greater good.

Garrus DID return to either C-Sec and/or Spectre training, depending on your playthrough. If word reached the Council that Cerberus had Shep's body and that project Lazarus was a go, yeah, I could see it.

I TOTALLY think it's not the case, but it'd sure make for some interesting ficlets.

I could see Garrus secretly working for the Council. Maybe he'd be supervising Shepard during the whole Collector mess. It could explain how he got his hands on the Thanix Cannon. As for betrayal, I doubt it and I seriously hope it never happens especially not with Garrus. Besides it would also explain why he went to Omega. Besides just killing mercs he was keeping an eye on Cerberus when they were fighting the Shadow Broker to get Shepard's body. Maybe Garrus himself could have been trying to get the body, after all it was a sniper who saved Liara and that sniper was Garrus aka Archangel.

This all speculation though and I'm feeling like those people in the forums that think everything is connected. I hope all that mess I said is wrong.

[Nissun]

 *Sigh* It's okay. I didn't want your stupid m/m romance with Garrus anyway, bioware.

*Sniff"

Modifié par Nissun, 10 mars 2010 - 11:04 .

[Nyaore]

Nissun wrote...

 *Sigh* It's okay. I didn't want your stupid m/m romance with Garrus anyway, bioware.

*Sniff"

There there... D: *pats*

[Kim Shepard]

I hope Garrus doesn't betray Shepard. o_o; Again, I don't think it's going to happen, but still... that sort of thing would even hurt the Shepards who didn't romance him. Even evil Shepard would take a hit to his pride.

Evil Shepard: Wow, Garrus... such deception. I didn't know you had it in you, but nobody lies to me and gets away with it - nobody. *awkward silence when he remembers saying something very similar to Udina* Nobody makes me repeat my own quotes. Nobody. >_>;

[Ms Cherissa]

Nissun wrote...

 *Sigh* It's okay. I didn't want your stupid m/m romance with Garrus anyway, bioware.

*Sniff"

/comfort

[Xalena]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I could see Garrus secretly working for the Council. Maybe he'd be supervising Shepard during the whole Collector mess. It could explain how he got his hands on the Thanix Cannon. As for betrayal, I doubt it and I seriously hope it never happens especially not with Garrus. Besides it would also explain why he went to Omega. Besides just killing mercs he was keeping an eye on Cerberus when they were fighting the Shadow Broker to get Shepard's body. Maybe Garrus himself could have been trying to get the body, after all it was a sniper who saved Liara and that sniper was Garrus aka Archangel.

This all speculation though and I'm feeling like those people in the forums that think everything is connected. I hope all that mess I said is wrong.

I thought the same this thing with sniper...I screamed inside:"Omg Garrus!" But actually no <_< seems that wasn't him in the end...humm lol... I remember someone opened thread how Mass Effect 3 needs betrayer because "most of Bioware games had/have betrayers" and how I remember many people put Garrus as a pontential betrayer buuut naaaah I don't think it will happeeen...that is just ugh egh...too bad, very bad! *brrr* I can't imagine it in worsest dream! If that happens I will seriously feel sorry for my Shep...that would be somehow unrealistically that so much bad things happens to one person to Shepard imo. Plus there are too many Garrus fans who would get very mad and well if they did that something with Garrus then would make Tali a **** screwing Shep somehow probably too(?).  And really for such dark,depressive things I will just go to play Dragon Age <_< and cry in bed after that lol... no thxbaihaxorzbaxorz I want happy Mass Effect 3 godamnit!

Modifié par Xalena, 10 mars 2010 - 11:31 .

[MassAffected]

Garrus is my male Shep's best buddy, I really hope to see him return as a squadie in ME3

[janeym27]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I would not put it past Bioware to use awesome characters and LIs as emotional lynchpins to give us badguy rage in ME3. Either by becoming Reaper fodder at the mid point, or by betraying the trust of Shep. At this point in the saga, Shepard is surrounded by a lot of characters who could well have ulterior motives. Cerberus, the Alliace, Liara... so many forces with different (conflicting?) agendas.... I do think we will have some kind of betrayal of trust in ME3. While anyone else betraying Shep wouldn't have half the mpact of Garrus (LI, or not), it would be devastaing! But then, wouldn't that be kinda cool...? The emotion? You know, until you had to crawl away from your game and curl up in a ball and cry, and never pick it up again. lol



Nah, ol' Garrus would never harm Shep. Though he would sacrifice himself to save her/him.



Garrus must be next to me when I take my victory in ME3! Whether we live or die, we do it together!



(did I say 'we'? I meant, my Femshep and Garrus.)



Stop! Garrus time!

[MarginalBeast]

siltsonata wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...
I agree, sure he says it to the male Shepard too, however I like to interpret it differently with a female character. Garrus also talks about his sexual encounter with that other Turian with male Shepard, however like someone else siad that's fine since guys talk to guys about that stuff, however I doubt a guy would tell a girl about his experiences. Garrus hints to stuff, whether conciously or not he still says those things. I like to think he says them conciously though. He says those things but doesn't really talk about his attraction only hints to it so he doesn't accidentally say something stupid. Why? Maybe he thought Shepard would find it a horrible idea.

Telling Shepard about "Reach and Flexibility" was probably his attempt to attract her, however he probably thought it wouldn't work. It did and he felt all awkward about it afterwards, maybe because it wasn't the result he expected.

Yesyesyes.  I think lines are supposed to be interpreted differently for different genders.  

For instance, Miranda's mention about how she was created to be great despite her limitations and Shepard is great because of them (or something like that?)  For a Femshep, I see that as Miranda feeling hopeless in comparing herself to the "Real" perfect woman on the ship, and the one who didn't have to be created to boot.  

For a manshep, that seems like a broken "No one will ever love me" sort of lament, charged with a feeling of "Underneath this cold exterior I really want someone to take care of me."  Exact same line.  Totally different meanings for me. 

(Although...now that I think about it I've never heard that convo between a maleshep and Miri.  I'm only assuming it's the same since it's a non-li dialogue. )

Yeah, this. Similarly, look at Tali in ME1. She has unspoken feelings for male Shepard in that game, so even though she says the exact same thing to both genders, the dialogue between them can be interpreted very differently.

[Ray Joel Oh]

They did a great job of getting Shepard to emote better in this game. I just love Shepard's expression when she sees who Archangel is. Her guard down and she's just so happy! Oh those crazy kids!

[onibontan]

Seriously, if Shepard can't trust Garrus who in the galaxy can he/she trust??  :(Garrus betrayal? DO NOT WANT 

[Nyaore]

Honigkuchenpferd87 wrote...

Seriously, if Shepard can't trust Garrus who in the galaxy can he/she trust??  :(Garrus betrayal? DO NOT WANT 

This.
Out of all the people under Shepard's command Garrus is probably the least likely to intentionally commit betrayal against his superior officer. It's not even a matter of romancing him or not. The bond of camaraderie and trust between those two is simply too concrete for something like that to happen without proper justification - especially if you helped him deal with the Sidonis incident during the latest installment.
Unintentional betrayal would make some sense, but frankly I can't even fanthom a good reason for Garrus to turn his back on Shepard - short of Shepard attempting to kill Garrus first and/or turning to the dark side and helping the Reapers.

Modifié par Nyaore, 11 mars 2010 - 12:20 .

[silentstephi]

Imma just stop thinking about it.



Cause it's making me sad.

Cause it's a possibility that would cause lots of dramaz... and angst.

And he's the new Batman Y.Y

DO NOT WANT!

[shnellegaming]

Nyaore wrote...

Honigkuchenpferd87 wrote...

Seriously, if Shepard can't trust Garrus who in the galaxy can he/she trust??  :(Garrus betrayal? DO NOT WANT 

This.
Out of all the people under Shepard's command Garrus is probably the least likely to intentionally commit betrayal against his superior officer. It's not even a matter of romancing him or not. The bond of camaraderie and trust between those two is simply too concrete for something like that to happen without proper justification - especially if you helped him deal with the Sidonis incident during the latest installment.
Unintentional betrayal would make some sense, but frankly I can't even fanthom a good reason for Garrus to turn his back on Shepard - short of Shepard attempting to kill Garrus first and/or turning to the dark side and helping the Reapers.

Everyone has their buttons to push, even Garrus.  If he did it would probably be blackmail of somekind cause I do think Garrus would die before betraying Shepard, romance or not.  It would be a good storyline though.  Garrus somehow betrays Shepard and either Shepard kills him(renegade) or finds out why and forgives him(paragon).

I was thinking the other day.  I want the romance scene in ME3 to NOT be on the Normandy.  I want it to be on whatever planet you find your LI on.  Like with Garrus it could be on Palaven.

[Castanea]

shnellegaming wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Honigkuchenpferd87 wrote...

Seriously, if Shepard can't trust Garrus who in the galaxy can he/she trust??  :(Garrus betrayal? DO NOT WANT 

This.
Out of all the people under Shepard's command Garrus is probably the least likely to intentionally commit betrayal against his superior officer. It's not even a matter of romancing him or not. The bond of camaraderie and trust between those two is simply too concrete for something like that to happen without proper justification - especially if you helped him deal with the Sidonis incident during the latest installment.
Unintentional betrayal would make some sense, but frankly I can't even fanthom a good reason for Garrus to turn his back on Shepard - short of Shepard attempting to kill Garrus first and/or turning to the dark side and helping the Reapers.

Everyone has their buttons to push, even Garrus.  If he did it would probably be blackmail of somekind cause I do think Garrus would die before betraying Shepard, romance or not.  It would be a good storyline though.  Garrus somehow betrays Shepard and either Shepard kills him(renegade) or finds out why and forgives him(paragon).

I was thinking the other day.  I want the romance scene in ME3 to NOT be on the Normandy.  I want it to be on whatever planet you find your LI on.  Like with Garrus it could be on Palaven.

Hmm, that would be interesting. I never really thought about romance scene's locations... Now I am.