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#3601
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Pannamaslo wrote...

MidnightSG wrote...

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MidnightSG wrote...
If you read the official strategy guide it claims Garrus is not a romance option
in the game.


Wow. Fail.



I guess the strategy guide made me think this. Sadly I don't have one so I can't quote it word for word but I was non the less surprise when I saw it.
:unsure:


It says that female Shepard can flirt with Garrus, but full-fledged (damn if I know how to spell it :/) romance is not possible.


Probably just indicating the "Fade-To-Black" we get after the forehead touching.

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Sialater wrote...

Pannamaslo wrote...

MidnightSG wrote...

MarginalBeast wrote...

MidnightSG wrote...
If you read the official strategy guide it claims Garrus is not a romance option
in the game.


Wow. Fail.



I guess the strategy guide made me think this. Sadly I don't have one so I can't quote it word for word but I was non the less surprise when I saw it.
:unsure:


It says that female Shepard can flirt with Garrus, but full-fledged (damn if I know how to spell it :/) romance is not possible.


Probably just indicating the "Fade-To-Black" we get after the forehead touching.


And how this is not a full romance if you have a cutscene and ME 1 LI picture is face down? Also guide said that only full romances have "special" scene before hitting relay. I don't get it:blink:

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*shrug* Sometimes strategy guides are wrong. It tends to happen a lot, unfortunately.

Edit: Or maybe the writer of the guide just thought it wasn't a full-fledged romance because it wasn't "romantic" enough. In which case I just have to roll my eyes.

Pannamaslo wrote...
It says that female Shepard can flirt
with Garrus, but full-fledged (damn if I know how to spell it :/)
romance is not possible. FAILCOPTER! But with Tali even  flirt is not
mentioned.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]


So it says that Tali isn't a romance option either?

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 12 mars 2010 - 07:54 .


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Kasumi DLC: You know, even if he does have to wait outside, he's going to have to be with you at some point. The article implies you're going to be in combat at some point, which pretty much has to mean 3-person squad. (They cooouuuld do it with just Kasumi...but that's lamesauce.). He's going to have to see you in your formal wear.



I demand another awkward compliment from Garrus! Something about how I look in the dress!

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siltsonata wrote...

Kasumi DLC: You know, even if he does have to wait outside, he's going to have to be with you at some point. The article implies you're going to be in combat at some point, which pretty much has to mean 3-person squad. (They cooouuuld do it with just Kasumi...but that's lamesauce.). He's going to have to see you in your formal wear.

I demand another awkward compliment from Garrus! Something about how I look in the dress!


What will Garrus wear?

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siltsonata wrote...

Kasumi DLC: You know, even if he does have to wait outside, he's going to have to be with you at some point. The article implies you're going to be in combat at some point, which pretty much has to mean 3-person squad. (They cooouuuld do it with just Kasumi...but that's lamesauce.). He's going to have to see you in your formal wear.

I demand another awkward compliment from Garrus! Something about how I look in the dress!


True, but I still think you're expecting too much. I honestly don't expect the third squad mate to say anything at all during that loyalty mission.

Sad, but likely. I just don't think BioWare would care enough to add in something fun like that. :(

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MarginalBeast wrote...

*shrug* Sometimes strategy guides are wrong. It tends to happen a lot, unfortunately.

Edit: Or maybe the writer of the guide just thought it wasn't a full-fledged romance because it wasn't "romantic" enough. In which case I just have to roll my eyes.

Pannamaslo wrote...
It says that female Shepard can flirt
with Garrus, but full-fledged (damn if I know how to spell it :/)
romance is not possible. FAILCOPTER! But with Tali even  flirt is not
mentioned.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]


So it says that Tali isn't a romance option either?


There is nothing about it. Zero. At least I didn't see any...

Couldn't they do it to Jacob? No one would miss it:bandit:

Maybe the writer thought: romance with THAT! NO WAY!  (sorry to be blunt, but it happens) Or they decided on romance later. There was flirting already, but they couldn't figure out...Other things...Fortunately that did ;)

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Obsidian didn't have Atton Rand or anyone else comment on your Leia Slave Outfit. I hope Bioware learns from that mistake.



Especially if Sheps in one of those midriff-baring dresses.

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MarginalBeast wrote...

siltsonata wrote...

Kasumi DLC: You know, even if he does have to wait outside, he's going to have to be with you at some point. The article implies you're going to be in combat at some point, which pretty much has to mean 3-person squad. (They cooouuuld do it with just Kasumi...but that's lamesauce.). He's going to have to see you in your formal wear.

I demand another awkward compliment from Garrus! Something about how I look in the dress!


True, but I still think you're expecting too much. I honestly don't expect the third squad mate to say anything at all during that loyalty mission.

Sad, but likely. I just don't think BioWare would care enough to add in something fun like that. :(


Frankly I'm not expecting anything at all because I can't download DLC *sob*. Just hoping in vain, in the way I was vaguely hoping that Garrus would be the one who would refuse to leave the Normandy as it was exploding if we didn't romance anyone in ME1. 

Still, his presence will lead to fanfiction about it, which I can enjoy.  Sure as the sun sets.

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aynxalot wrote...

oneword wrote...
...
ps
I love nine inch nails music, lately I was listening to
'something
i can never have' - and I thought that it's sooo aboout Garrus. but. maybe its just me :>



ok. that said.. *lurks back into the shadows*


I posted that one too a few pages back, so I totes agree. It's just so sad! Posted Image Have you listened to Flyleaf's cover? 'Coz as much as I lurve Trent Reznor, the cover is really good, too. Also, "Hurt," on both accounts- Good Garrus-at-his-lowest song and excellent cover (Johnny Cash).


o, really? sorry, I must have missed it - but then it proves that I was right! - the song IS about Garrus :>
I liked Flyleaf's cover too, but in my opinion the original has  more emotions - it's Trent Reznor after all! 
when it comes to think, you're right - "Hurt" is also adequate and very powerful

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I actually prefer Johnny Cash's version. The lone guitar and Cash's voice make it that much sadder a song.



But I don't see it as a femShep/Garrus song.

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MarginalBeast wrote...

*shrug* Sometimes strategy guides are wrong. It tends to happen a lot, unfortunately.

Edit: Or maybe the writer of the guide just thought it wasn't a full-fledged romance because it wasn't "romantic" enough. In which case I just have to roll my eyes.

Pannamaslo wrote...
It says that female Shepard can flirt
with Garrus, but full-fledged (damn if I know how to spell it :/)
romance is not possible. FAILCOPTER! But with Tali even  flirt is not
mentioned.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]


So it says that Tali isn't a romance option either?


Nope.

That whole guide was fail when it came to listing the
romance options.

Kelly? That was a flirt/fling. But tell me... if Garrus was a "fling" like Kelly was, would I have gotten this, hmmm?

http://pics.livejour...ek/pic/0006650t

I rest my case.

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Yes it is.  But for a while here I hated it when people did that, because he's not with C-Sec.  He's not Officer Vakarian anymore. INACCURACY.

BUUUUUT Accordin' to the wiki he's now Gunnery Officer Vakarian. Not only does it still fit...I find that even hotter.:police: 


Technically, when he was with C-Sec, he was Detective Vakarian - 'officer' Vakarian of C-Sec would not have been in charge of a highly-sensitive investigation into the actions of a government agent. 'Officer' Vakarian would have taken Udina's initial report that some GROPOs (ground-pounders, landside soldiers) from the Normandy had seen said government agent misbehaving and the report would have been sent up the chain of command to the detective in charge of the investigation.  (I have law enforcement and military family members. I know way too much about this stuff.) 

"Officer Vakarian" from G.O. is acceptable. Only a superior, usually angry, would use the full title.

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You're a loose canon, Officer Vakarian! Keep it up and I'll have your badge!

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I'll keep reading but may not have time to post for a few days. Got an ME dress to finish making for I*Con here in New York (Long Island, USA) at the end of the month, and I think I'm ready to cast my first latex turian mask over the coming week (prefer to wait til there's less rain though, the smell dissapates faster in dryer air).



Yes, there will be pics unless it's epic fail.



No, my first cast will not be Garrus. :( (I explained to someone recently that since I'm just getting back into costuming after a crippling injury, my hand is not as steady as it was. Since Garrus is a well-known face, levels of precision I don't yet have are required, but we'll see how things go as I retrain my hands for this stuff. Cuz, I mean. Garrus.)



Ah, yes. 145 pages. Mr Woo incoming to lock us down by Monday night, anyone?

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siltsonata wrote...
Yes, he'd better.  Who will Scope n' Drop all of my enemies if not that dashing defender of the innocent, protector of the weak, and all-around badass, Garrus Vakarian?



....Would this be an inappropriate time to mention GARRUS PENIS?

/crawls out of abyss

Huh? Somebody said wah??  :D

Edit: I work in law enforcement, and regardless of special assignments (detective bureau/crime scene/SRT, etc) you're still a law enforcement officer.  Detective is just a title within the profession - officer is the actual profession.  ^_^

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Booyah! I gots mah ME capabilities back! Here I come, ME1 with no romance and lots of heady turian subtext! Wheee!



Quite right, Meta Ray Mek. The devs have to know by now, even by just glancing at the threads every so often, that there's gonna be a revolt if they choose to sideline Garrus (or Tali, but, y'know, Garrus.) It stops being 'flirting' after the second conversation and he says "This is about us." Up till then, they were arguably flirting from the moment they laid eyes on each other during his recruitment, depending on the person (fangirl) you ask.



You know, to jump back to the 'betrayal' idea again, someone mentioned Garrus having dirty secrets or whatever that could come around to bite him. Like feeling like his squad's massacre was his fault, he would likely feel culpable if something from his past caused harm/consequences on FemShep. They could play it that way without having to contrive an actual betrayal out of him. *shrug*



To clarify- "Hurt" isn't really for FemShep/Garrus, just Garrus by hisself while Shep's dead and he's feeling like crap.

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Meta Ray Mek wrote...

MarginalBeast wrote...

*shrug* Sometimes strategy guides are wrong. It tends to happen a lot, unfortunately.

Edit: Or maybe the writer of the guide just thought it wasn't a full-fledged romance because it wasn't "romantic" enough. In which case I just have to roll my eyes.

Pannamaslo wrote...
It says that female Shepard can flirt
with Garrus, but full-fledged (damn if I know how to spell it :/)
romance is not possible. FAILCOPTER! But with Tali even  flirt is not
mentioned.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]


So it says that Tali isn't a romance option either?


Nope.

That whole guide was fail when it came to listing the
romance options.

Kelly? That was a flirt/fling. But tell me... if Garrus was a "fling" like Kelly was, would I have gotten this, hmmm?

http://pics.livejour...ek/pic/0006650t

I rest my case.



^^ 
This. This, this and this. I grin like a damn fool when I get to this scene. :D

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Booyah! I gots mah ME capabilities back! Here I come, ME1 with no romance and lots of heady turian subtext! Wheee!

Quite right, Meta Ray Mek. The devs have to know by now, even by just glancing at the threads every so often, that there's gonna be a revolt if they choose to sideline Garrus (or Tali, but, y'know, Garrus.) It stops being 'flirting' after the second conversation and he says "This is about us." Up till then, they were arguably flirting from the moment they laid eyes on each other during his recruitment, depending on the person (fangirl) you ask.

You know, to jump back to the 'betrayal' idea again, someone mentioned Garrus having dirty secrets or whatever that could come around to bite him. Like feeling like his squad's massacre was his fault, he would likely feel culpable if something from his past caused harm/consequences on FemShep. They could play it that way without having to contrive an actual betrayal out of him. *shrug*

To clarify- "Hurt" isn't really for FemShep/Garrus, just Garrus by hisself while Shep's dead and he's feeling like crap.


Yes I'm also going to replay ME1 again. I was dumb for not making more female characters, now I get to feel like an ass in ME3 when Kaidan gets upset because my female Shepard cheated on him. Unfortunately it's going to take me 3 playthroughs with my blonde female engineer and with female adept. I was planning to romance Thane with one of them but I'm sticking to Garrus with both. I'm just fascinated by the idea of a powerful female human biotic and I like blondes. Unfortunately it didn't occur to me to put both together into an adept.

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Hmm, here's another thought to consider (and more stuff for us fans to poke around with):

Why is it that Garrus never holds Shepard's hands in any of the lead up romantic dialogues? I, personally, am not bothered by this (not much of a hand holder myself) but I kind of interpreted it as Garrus being respectful of Shepard's boundaries. Maybe he wanted to make sure that they were both on the same page in terms of where they wanted the relationship to go before he even considered doing anything like that.

I 'unno.

Garrus.

Modifié par Umanix, 13 mars 2010 - 12:06 .


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MidnightSG wrote...




With all the hullabaloo over Garrus going on from Mass
effect 2 I wonder what the guys at Bioware think?



Did they expect Garrus to explode (even further) on the fan girl radar than
they had planned?



Of course Garrus was a big part of mass effect 1 (He was on the darn box cover
and brought into 2) But as far as romance wise did they really expect this? If
you read the official strategy guide it claims Garrus is not a romance option
in the game.




Yeah. I always feel like the game is trying to push me away from Garrus in the romance dept (and it FAILS every time. My current playthrough is a 'be true to Kaiden' one, and it is HARD! :blink:)

Like, with Thane and Jacob, you can paragon your way into their pants, but with Garrus, you have to be a  bit renegade. I thought with the romance it should be paragon/renegade IN YOUR APPROACH (leave neutral for declining), but it seems not. I mean, at the final roamnce conco before 'the big night', you can end it easily by simply saying 'I want to be your friend'. With Jacob, I recall, the conversation to decline him gave me a couple of ways to change my mind. Plus, there are several points in the game where other characters explicitly point out how incompatible human biology is with Turien/Quarien biology.

The universe is against them, but they prevail!


Oh, to come back to the Garrus/Omega time discepencey thing: wouldn't that make an awesome ME book? Garrus time on Omega, how he built his team, etc? I'm sure he didn't choose Omega simply because of its lawlessness: something drew/drove him there. (Also, to the Thanix Cannon question. I reckon Merc groups nicked it from the Turiens, and Garrus nicked it from the Merc groups).

There is a discussing thread regardind Fornax, the alien porn mag. Who else was hoping FemShep might have been able to leave it on the bed at some point - you know, showing Garrus she was sensitive to alien needs! :whistle:

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janeym27, the dialogue options in the romance conversations aren't paragon or renegade. They're just there.

Umanix wrote...

Hmm, here's another thought to consider (and more stuff for us fans to poke around with):

Why is it that Garrus never holds Shepard's hands in any of the lead up romantic dialogues? I, personally, am not bothered by this (not much of a hand holder myself) but I kind of interpreted it as Garrus being respectful of Shepard's boundaries. Maybe he wanted to make sure that they were both on the same page in terms of where they wanted the relationship to go before he even considered doing anything like that.

I 'unno.

Garrus.


Actually, I completely agree with you. I don't think he ever initiates physical contact because he's afraid of being disrespectful or stepping out of line. I believe I mentioned this awhile back, but IMO that just makes it even more touching (pun not intended) in the final scene when he reaches out to her for the first time.

In ME3 he and Shepard will probably be more physical though. I mean come on, after the suicide mission they cuddle on the bed and she sits in his lap. And, y'know, they had sex. If in ME3 Garrus STILL refuses to be "touchy-feely" then I will have to slap someone.

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janeym27 wrote...

There is a discussing thread regardind Fornax, the alien porn mag. Who else was hoping FemShep might have been able to leave it on the bed at some point - you know, showing Garrus she was sensitive to alien needs! :whistle:

I was looking ALL OVER Shep's cabin when I bought that...I was under the impression that it would show up somewhere, but alas.  :crying:  Maybe the space hamster is using it for bedding?

And even though I know you all probably troll DeviantArt as much as I do, just wanted to share this picture I found today - it's beeyooteefull.

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Tootles FTW wrote...

janeym27 wrote...

There is a discussing thread regardind Fornax, the alien porn mag. Who else was hoping FemShep might have been able to leave it on the bed at some point - you know, showing Garrus she was sensitive to alien needs! :whistle:

I was looking ALL OVER Shep's cabin when I bought that...I was under the impression that it would show up somewhere, but alas.  :crying:  Maybe the space hamster is using it for bedding?


The novels don't show up anywhere, either. I'd have loved if they showed as the actual text of the novels available to read from Shep's private terminal.