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[Kim Shepard]

Some of my Shepards would have tattoos. Shepard #7 has a few, but those are from his gang member days.

I imagine Shepard #4 and #2 as brother and sister, so they have an amusing turian-related tattoo story - #2 wanted turian-style face tattoos, #4 tried to talk her out of it with the reasoning that face tattoos would be painful for a human because they don't have metallic faceplates, #4 ended up getting a face tattoo (not exactly turian-style though) and spent the rest of the day holding a bag of ice on his face, and then #2 decided she didn't want one anymore. xD

[Flammie]

Everybody seems to be in the age range I'm thinking of. I guess I'm still the youngest. Hmm, never thought about it, but am I too immature for this?

Never understood the reference, and I haven't watched Hot Fuzz before...

And, I don't know about tattoos, but it sounds like an interesting concept, go for it. I don't think I've heard anything of the sort before.

[ELE08]

Nissun wrote...

Okay, I'll try and see if the forum resizes the image. If not, expect a big "whoops."
(apparently, it worked)

Also, do any of you think Shepard (male or female) has tattoos? Being an alliance soldier, and all that, I though it may be possible after all. Then I thought it would be cute to write a fanfic of Shepard considering getting Garrus' name tattooed in turian characters, or something like that.

It's silly, I wasn't really going to write it. Just, you know, kinda cool. Also got me thinking for a while about what kind of body modifications, besides facepaint, turians could have. THAT is interesting to think of.

I'm curious as to whether y'all think the Alliance military has tattoo restrictions.  

I'm not super informed about present day military standards, but I know it varies branch to branch how extensive and where they can be located.  I can see my earthborn Shep having work done from her gang days (useless fact, I am fully sleeved so I think it would be awesome if I could give my Shep tats in game).  From the books we know removal has advanced to the point that mercs will get them removed and re-done for missions.  Maybe Shep had to get hers taken off when enlisting.

[enormousmoonboots]

After dying, Shep's technically not part of the military anymore, and could get any tattoos she wanted. Any she had would be gone after coming back to life, anyway.



(FWIW, I'm 19)

[Flammie]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

After dying, Shep's technically not part of the military anymore, and could get any tattoos she wanted. Any she had would be gone after coming back to life, anyway.

(FWIW, I'm 19)

That's actually a good point, Shepard would probably be absolved of all rules. Just the way Garrus likes it. Unless Cerberus forbids it. But Paragon Shepard would screw Cerberus over and resign, so they'd still be absolved of rules.

[Kim Shepard]

aynxalot wrote...

Kim Shepard: In the beginning of ME1, Nihlus tells you that he put your name forward for the Spectres, and that he's gonna evaluate you. That Eden Prime was to be the first of several missions for you two to do together. 'Cause, y'know, he needs to 'check you out'.... >

Actually, that sounds familiar... xD Now my main Shepard has another reason to be really angry at Saren through most of the game.

Shepard: SAREN! D:< What did you do that for?! I was already planning our wedding!
Saren: What are you talking about-- oh. o_o; *slowly backs away*

[ELE08]

Flammie wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

After dying, Shep's technically not part of the military anymore, and could get any tattoos she wanted. Any she had would be gone after coming back to life, anyway.

(FWIW, I'm 19)

That's actually a good point, Shepard would probably be absolved of all rules. Just the way Garrus likes it. Unless Cerberus forbids it. But Paragon Shepard would screw Cerberus over and resign, so they'd still be absolved of rules.

All true.  Technically she also could have done pretty much anything after becoming a SPECTRE and the Alliance wouldn't have been able to do anything about it.  I really need to stop thinking so hard about all the details of the Mass Effect universe.  Needs more Mass Effect.  *sigh*

Oh yeah.  Garrus.

PS.  Garrus.

[Flammie]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Shepard: SAREN! D:< What did you do that for?! I was already planning our wedding!
Saren: What are you talking about-- oh. o_o; *slowly backs away*

That'd sound classic. I wonder how the other party members would react if they heard Shepard say that as well.

I don't know who Nihlus is, or if he's good or not, but I can't wait to meet him, now. Mariah's entire heart will be devoted to Garrus, but I'd bet Nihlus would have been her great friend. Until, if what I think you're saying happened, then she would be really angry. Like how Garrus was.

There must be a method of truly expressing our love for Garrus rather than say his name... Not even just screaming it to the world.

Also, I've finally the pluck to sign up to the fanfiction site... but I need to wait for two days. I guess it gives me more time to think about it.

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[ELE08]

aynxalot wrote...

Yeah. I like to think that was my current FemShep's first brush with her latent turian attraction. Then she watched that one turian, sneaking around that corner all sexy-like, picking off that thug without hitting the hostage and....well, it's a slippery slope.
Or rather, a gravity well.

Shep: Nice shot.  You took him down clean.

Garrus: Sometimes you get lucky.

*Shepard looks Garrus up and down*  Indeed

[Sialater]

Military regulations about tattoos are:  If they don't show, we don't care.

That being said... she's a marine.  I'll bet there's a Semper Fi on her somewhere.

[Cerrydd]

My Shep doesn't have a tattoo. She does have a tongue piercing.



@Flammie: You can never be too young to love Garrus. Not sure about the magic folder, though...



Newsflash: Garrus.

[Kim Shepard]

@Flammie: Nihlus is the first turian seen in ME1, so Shepard wouldn't have known Garrus yet. He's a nice guy, but very short-lived. Saren kills him off in the first mission.

I would like to see everyone's reactions to that too, but the only squad members who would get to see it are Kaidan and Ashley because the rest of them are recruited later. xD Joker and Dr. Chakwas would be there though. (And Navigator Pressley, the guy who dies in the beginning of ME2. It's more sad if you know him from the first game.) If my other Shepards could be there, they'd have the best reactions.

Shepard #7: Don't worry, we'll get another turian on the team. Just you wait, you'll end up with that guy!

--two years later, after Shepard #2 and Garrus hook up--

Shepard #7: I love being right all the time.



@aynxalot: My main Shepard has always liked turians, but never had any luck with getting one to date her. xD Those comments from Nihlus would have been the most luck she's ever had with a turian, so to her it would feel like she was so close and then Saren took it away. Ironically, she had a crush on Saren when she was younger, until she found out that he hates humans,

[Flammie]

Hmm... didn't know he got killed that early. Well, maybe she admires Nihlus, and wanted to be good friends with her, until her dreams plummeted. She didn't think she'd find another turian she could love... until she found Garrus.

And, heh at Shepard #7.

By the way, I just thought, did all your Shepards simultaneously die at that moment at the start of ME2?

My Shepard's going to be clean. Slightly boring, but I can't think of anything that I'd put on her.

I just remembered the four year old story. I guess your point's proven, Cerrydd. Though, the magic folder... well, the more forbidden the fruit, the sweeter the taste, and I'm savouring its luscious entirety.

Actually, speaking of the magic folder, I was reading the quite aptly titled fanfiction text file in there, and a mini event made me search a bit and consider.

I've just learnt that other races use translators to communicate and trade with others, yet some can learn alien languages to help in fraternising and ease of communication.

So... do you think Garrus needs a translator, or has he mastered the human language?


GARRUS I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!!

Modifié par Flammie, 16 mars 2010 - 08:43 .

[aznsoisauce]

@Flammie - I like to think Shepard and Garrus are fluent in Galactic. For...more...intimate moments, I guess.

[Kim Shepard]

He's an awesome-looking turian though - dark skin/metallic plates, white face tattoos (the design is cool too), and bright green eyes. I'd link an image of him, but it took a while for me to figure out how to put the Garrus banner in my signature, so that would probably fail. Google image search? xD

I think Shepard #7 is my favorite. Some of those Renegade interrupts were just made for him.

Shepard #7: I can also imitate voices perfectly. > For example, turians and Sovereign. *in Sovereign's voice* "I am the vanguard of your destruction."

Garrus: Don't... do that. O__O



I'm not sure about Garrus, but I know Shepard needs a translator to talk to Thane. She said "I think my translator glitched" or something like that when he called her "siha". Maybe in the future, translators will be able to add emotion to the elcors' voices. Now there's an interesting thought.

[Gerse1]

aynxalot wrote...

== Thanks guys. I really never expected a whole lot of people to even read them, so that means a lot. I loves me some Garrus.

Aynxalot I loved your fics too.  I left reviews as Caeruleya.  Well they weren't so much reviews but compliments.  But yeah. Keep writing =)

Flammie wrote...

I'm probably the youngest here. So I'll never be able to hit it off
with any of you girls. Shame, it'd be nice to be in a relationship
where we'd have one... deep similarity.

I don't know why, but I found this really, really amusing.

Nissun - those stencils look sweet. 

aynxalot wrote...

Yeah. I like
to think that was my current FemShep's first brush with her latent
turian attraction. Then she watched that one turian, sneaking around
that corner all sexy-like, picking off that thug without hitting the
hostage and....well, it's a slippery slope. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png
Or rather, a gravity well.

ELE08 wrote...

Shep: Nice shot.  You took him down clean.

Garrus: Sometimes you get lucky.

*Shepard looks Garrus up and down*  Indeed

Oh man.  that took a lot of willpower for me not to LOL in class.


Oh, and I'm 24.

[enormousmoonboots]

There's a bit in the ME1 Codex (if you pick up Bring Down the Sky) that says that personal translation units are practically ubiquitous. Garrus wouldn't need to learn the human language since the Citadel has a minority of humans. Maybe by Omega he's picked up some of whatever the human language is, but I doubt with any significant fluency. Buuut, the Codex entry also mentions that there's a standardized trade language used mostly in the Terminus Systems. I imagine both he and Shepard have some ability to speak that; think of it like a cop picking up Spanish cos that's what everyone on his beat speaks (or soldiers being issued French/German/Korean language manuals in the appropriate war).

[ELE08]

Flammie wrote...

Hmm... didn't know he got killed that early. Well, maybe she admires Nihlus, and wanted to be good friends with her, until her dreams plummeted. She didn't think she'd find another turian she could love... until she found Garrus.

And, heh at Shepard #7.

By the way, I just thought, did all your Shepards simultaneously die at that moment at the start of ME2?

My Shepard's going to be clean. Slightly boring, but I can't think of anything that I'd put on her.

I just remembered the four year old story. I guess your point's proven, Cerrydd. Though, the magic folder... well, the more forbidden the fruit, the sweeter the taste, and I'm savouring its luscious entirety.

Actually, speaking of the magic folder, I was reading the quite aptly titled fanfiction text file in there, and a mini event made me search a bit and consider.

I've just learnt that other races use translators to communicate and trade with others, yet some can learn alien languages to help in fraternising and ease of communication.

So... do you think Garrus needs a translator, or has he mastered the human language?

GARRUS I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!!

I always assumed they were both fluent in some sort of galactic basic (the 'common trade language' used in Council space.)  Lacking lips, english might prove a challenge for turians to speak.

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[enormousmoonboots]

ELE08 wrote...

I always assumed they were both fluent in some sort of galactic basic (the 'common trade language' used in Council space.)  Lacking lips, english might prove a challenge for turians to speak.

He doesn't exactly have lips, but the flesh around his mouth is certainly movable. Stretches when he talks, and so on. It's not a beak. I spent awhile thinking about that once I realized he could make 'ffff' sounds. Course, if you believe that every single thing they're saying is being done via translation, that's not something you need to dwell over.

But I like the idea of them being able to converse without translators. The romantic in me, I suppose.
(and it seems like a terrible idea to stick six+ different languages on a ship and become totally reliant on auto-translate. If a translator broke, there would be chaos)

[Gerse1]

ELE08 wrote...

I always assumed they were both fluent in some sort of galactic basic (the 'common trade language' used in Council space.)  Lacking lips, english might prove a challenge for turians to speak.

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I've wondered about these issues too; good to get some info.  I wonder if Shep then switches wbetween translator and trade language, depending. We know for sure that Shep uses a translater with Thane. But then, drell are rare and so if you're not hanar you probably don'tk now much drell.  Seems like turian, asari, salarian, human, and volus would all be pretty easy to pick up for the spacefaring cosmopolitan types.  I can see Shep and Garrus using the galactic and not a translator.  Then only thing is as ELE08 said it would have to be made up of sounds that could be formed by the vocal cords/lips of all the many species.  Seems like it might be limited.


I have also wondered what a turian would sound like without a translator.  Do you think the device would modulate the tone/timbre of their voice some too, to make it sound more normal to human ears -- hence the flange?  If we assume that natural turian speech reflects the raptor-dino-avian biology, I imagine the "flange" sound woudl be much increased.  Lots of growls, clicks (?), maybe even reptilian versions of purrs.  Well that description sounds almost like geth, I still think it would have the sound of a voice.  Just a growly, purry, sexy voice

[Kim Shepard]

Broken translators have made me imagine Grunt shouting in the krogan language, waving his arms around like a maniac while he tries to make Shepard understand him. xD I think Shepard could be understood fairly well through simple gestures, but it would almost seem like she was playing charades. She would really enjoy hearing the turian language though.

[Flammie]

Gerse1 wrote...

Flammie wrote...

I'm probably the youngest here. So I'll never be able to hit it off
with any of you girls. Shame, it'd be nice to be in a relationship
where we'd have one... deep similarity.

I don't know why, but I found this really, really amusing.

Oh dear, I feel very offended by that.

...Meh, I still think it would be a quite interesting/turbulent relationship. Imagine turians existing and we made "the list of 5 people we're allowed to etc. etc."



Lots of interesting viewpoints on the languages, though, it's quite curious, I guess. I've always imagined Garrus's mouthparts to be pretty similar to lips, so I'm not sure english is completely out of the equation. I think if you've got a multi-racial ship you'll definitely have to find some sort of language middle-ground, because, as said, it would be a disaster if the translator broke, there was some interference or some problem. I guess the trade language would be a good place to start.

@ aynxalot: Heh, cute thought. I've never really thought about Garrus when he was young.


Well, language does develop, change and even becomes switched for more favourable or convenient languages for the welfare of liasons with others. I think that as time goes on and aliens communicate with each other, there will be a point when we have a completely universal language convenient for all and where translators won't be needed. I'm sure a way could be found.

Of course, it may not be possible at that point in Mass Effect, but it'd be pretty nice. I'd like to think of Garrus and Shepard in bed together, and not having to use a translator. It seems so... obtrusive.

I'm not sure how the flanging actually works if there's a translator, or how these different voices come across, actually. Perhaps the translator identifies the species, sounds and such, and tries to accurately preserve the voice (and flanging) whilst moulding the sounds so they will be comprehensible by the user.

I'd still think a translator would feel quite obstructive for Garrus and Shepard's intimate moments.



I keep listening to Rule the World by Take That, despite being quite old, and I still think the lyrics fit Garrus.

Modifié par Flammie, 16 mars 2010 - 09:19 .