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[Gerse1]

Flammie -- why offended? I meant it in a good natured way. I meant the bolded sentence specifically. As in the way you worded it was funny. Just imagining someone saying it, with that pregnant pause before "deep similarity."

[Flammie]

I was making a slightly dry, good natured joke, sorry for the confusion.

I just thought would be curious though, for a relationship where both the male and the female were attracted to Garrus.

[Gerse1]

oh, /relief. as the facebook group says, "I hate how sarcasm doesn't transfer well over text." total fail. sorry =)

[Flammie]

Yes, I have to agree with that, but I still am quite sarcastic out of habit...

Anyway. Garrus. Love. Garrus. Adoration. Garrus. Garrus. Garrus. *explodes for Garrus-fanboy related reason*

[Ms Cherissa]

falco117 wrote...

Why do you want to get rid of garrus' scars? the scars gives him maturity and shows us his troubled emotions, I for one think the scars make garrus the garrus he is today

I am here to say that troubled emotions are neither sexy nor mature. Garrus, however, is both of these things. I'd like to at least see the bandage gone, if not significant repair to the scars, as the ME universe makes it plain that such procedures are commonplace (unless you're Krogan or Zaeed, I guess). 

Man. I leave for ONE DAY and you all give me like 10 pages to read. Wait, wut, we're not locked yet? 

[enormousmoonboots]

The lock happened around the end of the month, didn't it? I'm pretty sure he just went around and locked every thread over 100 pages at the end of the month for forum maintenance reasons, all the other big character threads got frozen too. Imagine what would happen if the Tali thread wasn't contained. I'm willing to sacrifice a Garrus thread to keep Tali from making the forums implode. We can rebuild.

[Ms Cherissa]

Flammie wrote...
Everybody seems to be in the age range I'm thinking of.

I'm 41. My husband is 47. We're veteran fans.

[Ms Cherissa]

Gerse1 wrote...

oh, /relief. as the facebook group says, "I hate how sarcasm doesn't transfer well over text." total fail. sorry =)

There is a sarcasm text. There are also sarcasm punctuation marks! 

I hate this information, because I did not think of it first.

www.slate.com/id/2111172/ - mark looks a bit like an upside down ! but lower in the text, like a comma.

My internetz are terribad today so I'm not able to get the sarcasm font sites to load, but if you google image it or bing image it, you'll see it. It's AWESOME.

I'm pretty sure everyone in the MEverse (except the Batarians playing Galaxy of Fantasy) use translators. Even Garrus. Still, sarcasm doesn't usually need translating.
 
EDIT: @Boots, the lock came just after Valentine's Day actually - I remember making a snark that apparently Mr. Woo had a crappy day and wanted to take it out on those of us who were still happily crushing.

Modifié par Ms Cherissa, 16 mars 2010 - 10:22 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

[quote]falco117 wrote...

Why do you want to get rid of garrus' scars? the scars gives him maturity and shows us his troubled emotions, I for one think the scars make garrus the garrus he is today[/quote]

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I agree, they're part of him now. They're like his visor, they form part of his character. However I do hope the patch does go away. If there was dialogue to ask him whether he wants to fix them or not, then I'd ask. If he says yes I'll do it. Somehow I think he'll say now. I can imagine Turians keeping things like that as a reminder of their mistakes.

[silentstephi]

Aaaand time to play catch -

Scars - For the love of god, keep them.  They're dead sexy.  I don't even mind the bandage all that much anymore, but it'd be awesome to see what the art dept does with it come ME3.
Hoody - Silt, you rock my socks with that hoody.  It looks totally boss.  I never would have thought of something like that, but as my husband likes to poke at me, I would totally be in the same dept as you, and wear it ALL DAY EVERY DAY.  I'm still up in the air about the N7 hoodie... 60 bucks is a lot to drop on a hoody.  But now you have my clothing juices going... I might try my hand at the recruit armor... cause well... I love that outfit...
Age - 27, hub's 30.  Both gamers, both geeky as hell.  I don't think I could have married someone who had less geek cred than I... and we even met at a LARP and everything...
Stencil - Nissun, THANK YOU.  I now have something to put on my gaming folder/sketch pad/every surface in my house.... >.>
Marine Tattoos - I wouldn't be surprized if most Shepards did have them.  That's one of those varied personal preferences thing.  And yea, as has been mentioned, since Cerberus rebuilt you, I would think any of your previous inks wouldn't have survived meat popsicle stage.  My poor Shep would probably be torn on whether or not to get her gang tats back... but she'd def get Garrus's colony tat somewhere fun... >.>
Nihlus -

First Turian you lay eyes on.  He's. So. PRETTY.  I love his armor too.  Has some little bump in the front that makes me think it's a handle...
Translator/Languages - Ahhh I have been waiting for this topic.  I would love to know what the turian language actually sounds like.  They don't have closed mouths like Asari/Humans/Salarians/Batarians, so I imagine sounds going through those breezy cheeks and sharp pointy teeth would be interesting.  It makes me wonder if most of the sound is produced in their throats, and how much the shape of their mouths actually play into it. 
The Elcor and their speech are interesting in that they use scent and body language to communicate, and that makes sense, they barely have a mouth.  It's all flattened, a bunch of slits on their faces, and doesn't look very pliable to some of the sound effects humans can make.  When you really sit and think about it, humans can make some of the weirdest sounds, and that's only in your native language!  When I start thinking about other foreign languages... my head explodes.

So yea... I'll stop at that.  I need to finish up this ME1 playthrough so I can stop stalling on my own fiction... (I'm a horrible procrastinator -.-)

[Nissun]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

falco117 wrote...

Why do you want to get rid of garrus' scars? the scars gives him maturity and shows us his troubled emotions, I for one think the scars make garrus the garrus he is today

I agree, they're part of him now. They're like his visor, they form part of his character. However I do hope the patch does go away. If there was dialogue to ask him whether he wants to fix them or not, then I'd ask. If he says yes I'll do it. Somehow I think he'll say now. I can imagine Turians keeping things like that as a reminder of their mistakes. 

Yeah I'm not exactly an expert on fictional, militaristic cultures, but the whole scar issue reminded me of the Clans on the Battletech novels. Apparently they chose not to use medical resources for vanity. (Crap, now I want to re-read all the books again...)

In any case, if I remember correctly, the Clans are way more strict and harsh than the turians. And Garrus himself isn't the best prototype turian anyway.

Also, female, 20 (isn't there a poll for this kind of thing?)

Modifié par Nissun, 16 mars 2010 - 11:20 .

[Lady Discordia]

Just thought i'd come and declare myself here as a serious Garrus fangirl. I just can't get enough of him! In ME1, I romanced Kaidan, but Garrus was definately by BFF. Plus, I felt like Shepard was not only a friend, but a mentor to him which I loved. Roll around ME2, and Garrus took a bazillion levels in Badass and now he and Shepard are equals. 

It feels like Shepard is seeing him for the first time really, or at least she did on my second playthrough XD I didn't romance anyone on my first because I wasn't sure about them tbh. Jacob was quite frankly, unspeakable, Thane wasn't bad and I thought Shepard was WAY too forward with Garrus at first. But then I had a goosey on Youtube and was amazed by the depth and sentimentality of Garrus's romance. It wasn't just about the sex, it became so much more; trust, friendship over coming interspecies boundaries, and that little bit of hope in an otherwise messed up galaxy. Damn, me and my Shepard fell right then and we fell HARD.

So now Garrus has is my BFF but also my primary LI in the ME series. Move over Kaidan, Shepard has a brand new man.

Also, to add to the age discussion, i'm 16. =)

Edit: Trying to fix stupid wall of text... XD

Modifié par Lady Discordia, 16 mars 2010 - 11:10 .

[ELE08]

Lady Discordia wrote...

Just thought i'd come and declare myself here as a serious Garrus fangirl. I just can't get enough of him! In ME1, I romanced Kaidan, but Garrus was definately by BFF. Plus, I felt like Shepard was not only a friend, but a mentor to him which I loved. Roll around ME2, and Garrus took a bazillion levels in Badass and now he and Shepard are equals. 

It feels like Shepard is seeing him for the first time really, or at least she did on my second playthrough XD I didn't romance anyone on my first because I wasn't sure about them tbh. Jacob was quite frankly, unspeakable, Thane wasn't bad and I thought Shepard was WAY too forward with Garrus at first. But then I had a goosey on Youtube and was amazed by the depth and sentimentality of Garrus's romance. It wasn't just about the sex, it became so much more; trust, friendship over coming interspecies boundaries, and that little bit of hope in an otherwise messed up galaxy. Damn, me and my Shepard fell right then and we fell HARD.

So now Garrus has is my BFF but also my primary LI in the ME series. Move over Kaidan, Shepard has a brand new man.

Also, to add to the age discussion, i'm 16. =)

Edit: Trying to fix stupid wall of text... XD

This mirrors my experience exactly.  ME1 I romanced Kaidan but Garrus was my closest BFF on the ship.  My squad was Garrus/Kaidan for 90% of every playthrough.  

Also, welcome

[MarginalBeast]

This thread grew fast. I'm 20, by the way.

Scars -- I like them, but I hate the bandage. I agree with whoever said that we should be able to ask Garrus if he wants his scars fixed or not. But I don't care about his opinion on the bandage (assuming he even really cares). It needs to go.

Translators -- I just hope that the entire squad has sub-dermal implants. It would seem terribly inconvenient otherwise, especially during combat. The codex does state that most individuals only know their native language, but I'd like to think that many would at least learn the artificial "trade tongue". It did say that most races can learn and speak it with little difficulty.

Romance ending -- I can imagine a few things. Running around killing mercs on Omega together sounds neat, but at the same time not very fulfilling. After all, Garrus tried that once and look what happened. Perhaps running around stopping slavers and saving colonies would be more fitting? It just seems like they'd make a bigger difference that way in the long run. But my Shepard has the colonist background so I'm biased.

Also, marriage is fine with me. Like others said, it doesn't have to be a big ceremony...and, well, why NOT? I'm sure it'd come with some benefits worth having. Perhaps at the end of the game your love interest will ask you if you have anything specific in mind for the future, sort of a "Well we've finished saving the galaxy. Again. ...What now?" scenario and then you get to tell them a number of things, and that determines what ending you get with your LI. Of course that'd only work if the epilogue was text-based ala DA:O (though hopefully much less buggy). BioWare isn't going to write and animate full scenes for every possible ending.

Final romance scene -- I honestly liked it quite a bit. Frankly, I think that adding something steamy and sexy into it like "sparring" would have cheapened it. It's like how a lot of Thane fangirls wanted him to take his shirt off in the final scene--and although I can't really blame them, I disagree with that too. Something like that just wouldn't have fit the tone of the scene very well. I liked those romance scenes because they focused heavily on emotion (and in Garrus' case, a bit of humor too) and not on lust.

Plus, Garrus and even Shepard are obviously fairly nervous about the whole thing. Yes, I think that underneath her confident exterior, Shepard is nervous too (although to what extent depends on the Shepard). I think that's why she is shown taking a shower--to help calm her nerves (at least I can't think of any other good reason for that scene). She would have to be nervous if she's having sex with someone from another species, especially one so different, for the first time. Or at the very least, cautious. So I just can't imagine Garrus and Shepard jumping into the "steamy bits" right away, but that's just me. Perhaps it'd be in-character for some Shepards to just jump him immediately, but I think that would've felt out of place. I definitely wouldn't have minded more dialogue or a hug or something, though. All of the romance scenes are too short IMO.

Damn. After typing all of that I've forgotten what else has been brought up in the thread. Oh well, doesn't really matter.

Oh, I do like silt's hoody.

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 17 mars 2010 - 12:17 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

Nissun wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

falco117 wrote...

Why do you want to get rid of garrus' scars? the scars gives him maturity and shows us his troubled emotions, I for one think the scars make garrus the garrus he is today

I agree, they're part of him now. They're like his visor, they form part of his character. However I do hope the patch does go away. If there was dialogue to ask him whether he wants to fix them or not, then I'd ask. If he says yes I'll do it. Somehow I think he'll say now. I can imagine Turians keeping things like that as a reminder of their mistakes. 

Yeah I'm not exactly an expert on fictional, militaristic cultures, but the whole scar issue reminded me of the Clans on the Battletech novels. Apparently they chose not to use medical resources for vanity. (Crap, now I want to re-read all the books again...)

In any case, if I remember correctly, the Clans are way more strict and harsh than the turians. And Garrus himself isn't the best prototype turian anyway.

Also, female, 20 (isn't there a poll for this kind of thing?)

Yeah, I remember I read somewhere about those Clans. Are they associated with the Clans in the Mechwarrior games or something? Or am I confusing things.

Even if Garrus isn't the model Turian, he's still Turian and he still probably has some traits that no Turian could get rid off. For example all Turians go to the military, he went to the military too.

As for the age thing, I'm 16 and I'm male.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Well uh, garrus isn't a traditional like turian, like how he puts it "If a turian hears a bad order he still follows it. He knows where his place is." Garrus in a way is more human then he is turian, thats most probably because hes been around with people like shepard a lot.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Well uh, garrus isn't a traditional like turian, like how he puts it "If a turian hears a bad order he still follows it. He knows where his place is." Garrus in a way is more human then he is turian, thats most probably because hes been around with people like shepard a lot.

I agree on that part with him. Why should he follow an inmoral order or a stupid one that could get everyone killed? However disobeying orders in today's militaries can get you in trouble. Maybe Garrus never liked Turian society and sometimes wishes that he was human. That could explain why he likes Shepard, although he says he's not obsessed by humans. He's also very condescending in the ME1 elevators where he basically tells everyone that Turians are superior than their own race. If Turians existed it would be the exact same opposite with me.

[kglaser]

I'm 41.

And I was going to say something about "Turian donuts", but quite frankly, I can't stop looking at that picture on page 166...pardon me, I have to calibrate some...um, stuff now.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Well uh, garrus isn't a traditional like turian, like how he puts it "If a turian hears a bad order he still follows it. He knows where his place is." Garrus in a way is more human then he is turian, thats most probably because hes been around with people like shepard a lot.

I agree on that part with him. Why should he follow an inmoral order or a stupid one that could get everyone killed? However disobeying orders in today's militaries can get you in trouble. Maybe Garrus never liked Turian society and sometimes wishes that he was human. That could explain why he likes Shepard, although he says he's not obsessed by humans. He's also very condescending in the ME1 elevators where he basically tells everyone that Turians are superior than their own race. If Turians existed it would be the exact same opposite with me.

Oh yeah, i remember that part of him. That was right after he left C-Sec for good though, away from all the other turians who pretty much pound that into his head. 2 years later, it almost seems like hes a different person. He thinks that it is his primary duty to help people in any way he can. That seemed like a part of him in me1 and it expanded even more into me2

[Splinter Cell 108]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Well uh, garrus isn't a traditional like turian, like how he puts it "If a turian hears a bad order he still follows it. He knows where his place is." Garrus in a way is more human then he is turian, thats most probably because hes been around with people like shepard a lot.

I agree on that part with him. Why should he follow an inmoral order or a stupid one that could get everyone killed? However disobeying orders in today's militaries can get you in trouble. Maybe Garrus never liked Turian society and sometimes wishes that he was human. That could explain why he likes Shepard, although he says he's not obsessed by humans. He's also very condescending in the ME1 elevators where he basically tells everyone that Turians are superior than their own race. If Turians existed it would be the exact same opposite with me.

Oh yeah, i remember that part of him. That was right after he left C-Sec for good though, away from all the other turians who pretty much pound that into his head. 2 years later, it almost seems like hes a different person. He thinks that it is his primary duty to help people in any way he can. That seemed like a part of him in me1 and it expanded even more into me2

Yes the change between games is so different. In ME1 he felt like a subordinate in ME2 he feels like an equal, plus Shepard doesn't scold him every time he wanted to do something renegade. I'm glad they didn't put that part where Shepard grabbed Garrus from his collarbone and scolded him because he didn't want to follow orders. Now that is how much of an ass a renegade can be.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Well uh, garrus isn't a traditional like turian, like how he puts it "If a turian hears a bad order he still follows it. He knows where his place is." Garrus in a way is more human then he is turian, thats most probably because hes been around with people like shepard a lot.

I agree on that part with him. Why should he follow an inmoral order or a stupid one that could get everyone killed? However disobeying orders in today's militaries can get you in trouble. Maybe Garrus never liked Turian society and sometimes wishes that he was human. That could explain why he likes Shepard, although he says he's not obsessed by humans. He's also very condescending in the ME1 elevators where he basically tells everyone that Turians are superior than their own race. If Turians existed it would be the exact same opposite with me.

Oh yeah, i remember that part of him. That was right after he left C-Sec for good though, away from all the other turians who pretty much pound that into his head. 2 years later, it almost seems like hes a different person. He thinks that it is his primary duty to help people in any way he can. That seemed like a part of him in me1 and it expanded even more into me2

Yes the change between games is so different. In ME1 he felt like a subordinate in ME2 he feels like an equal, plus Shepard doesn't scold him every time he wanted to do something renegade. I'm glad they didn't put that part where Shepard grabbed Garrus from his collarbone and scolded him because he didn't want to follow orders. Now that is how much of an ass a renegade can be.

I'm glad they didn't make garrus look like that in general. He looks like such a badass with all his tattoos and everything. Though...even though he was slightly renegade, he was always my bro, in both games. To bad hes really quiet in the second game, hope they fix that with some nice old dlc.

[aznsoisauce]

Garrus...I know I just bought Awakening and I am about to play it, but I have not forgotten about you. I will see you in a few hours on my Male Paragon Shep to bro it up. Please do not be alarmed by his shiny golden armor.

[MarginalBeast]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...
Yes the change between games is so different. In ME1 he felt like a subordinate in ME2 he feels like an equal, plus Shepard doesn't scold him every time he wanted to do something renegade. I'm glad they didn't put that part where Shepard grabbed Garrus from his collarbone and scolded him because he didn't want to follow orders. Now that is how much of an ass a renegade can be.

Doesn't really seem a-holeish to me. Aggressive, sure. But if someone disobeys direct orders then they shouldn't be surprised if they get reprimanded for it. Plus, in that situation Garrus wanted to sacrifice innocents in order to get the job done faster. Even my paragon would have been harsh to him for that.

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 17 mars 2010 - 01:50 .

[Ms Cherissa]

kglaser wrote...

I'm 41.
And I was going to say something about "Turian donuts", but quite frankly, I can't stop looking at that picture on page 166...pardon me, I have to calibrate some...um, stuff now.

Same age as me and - oh, is THAT what we're calling it now? 

[MarginalBeast]

EDIT: Argh, I messed up.

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 17 mars 2010 - 01:50 .