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[enormousmoonboots]

Now hold on, if anyone's beating up/chewing out Kaidan in the third game it'll be me. When he whined at me and went crying back to the Council on Horizon I wanted to grab him by the collar and slap him. Treating your commander like that is awfully...heretical.

[bushes289]

enormousmoonboots wrote...


Strength -- I think that turians in general are stronger than humans. Yes, Shepard is a badass soldier and has had plenty of implants/upgrades, but that doesn't necessarily mean she is physically stronger than Garrus who is also a badass and has had upgrades. I just think Garrus is stronger because he's a turian, not because he's a male. And that doesn't make him a better fighter than her. There's a lot more to winning than just physical strength, or else the krogans would have been ruling the galaxy long before the salarians had the chance to unleash the genophage. (And sure, FemShep can apparently lift krogans like Grunt with one arm, but I try not to put too much faith in cutscene magic.) So that said, even if Garrus IS physically stronger than Shepard, that doesn't mean he'd win in a sparring match with her. ...Though he'd probably beat my FemShep because she's more of a "charge into battle and mow down everything in her path" kinda gal and doesn't possess the finesse required to be successful in advanced hand-to-hand combat. Interestingly enough I really don't imagine her to be very "flexible" at all. Oh well, you can't have everything.

That doesn't make any sense, if Garrus were stronger because he's a turian, then Shepard wouldn't be able to knock out a turian with a single punch when unarmoured and she also sent that perverted Turian flying. Besides just look at the way they're built. They're angular with long and sharp points, then look at the krogan, all round and bulky muscle, and also really slow. it seems to me that the turians are built for high speed chases, like a cheetah or a peregrine falcon. Which means they aren't at full strength unless they have momentum.

I don't really know how to explain it but because of they way they're built they can't be much stronger than humans or else their strength would shatter their long thin arms, legs and fingers. They're built for ripping and tearing not crushing, which means, very fast but not that strong and probably not a lot endurance when using their full speed. You also have to remember that Palaven has very low gravity, which means that they'd be lighter and weaker than a creature their size on earth. True they look bigger and stronger than humans but we don't know how to compare earths gravity to that of palaven.

Also the arms and legs of well built humans like Jacob are thicker than a turians, which too me means humans are normally stronger, of course there are variables. Because the turians are so military the average turian is probably stronger than a human who isn't in shape, but I think that humans can build up more muscle than a turian can. But I do realize that turians have way more natural weapons than humans and us humans are really bad when it comes to fighting something fast, so yes in a deathmatch with no weapons or biotics a Turian would win because the poor soft human would get shredded to bits. I think that this is the most I've ever posted in a forum.

[Zafflesia]

Mating Frenzy Garrus is... usually something lifted straight from Vulcans. He has sex with Shepard or he dies. Until one of those happens, he's aggressive and rude and otherwise really mean with anyone other than femshep. If she shows up, he's either a cooing teary-eyed kitten or he throws her to bed.



I READ TOO MANY FANFICS

[janeym27]

MarginalBeast wrote...


What is Mating Frenzy Garrus, exactly?

Ah, you don't want to get all up in that Garrus' business. Love? That word is unknown here. He's just looking for a female swollen with eggs who will accept his genetic material.

Modifié par janeym27, 23 mars 2010 - 02:11 .

[silentstephi]

Nyx.Aeterna wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

You can train people to hit hard surfaces, but it's got to do with stuff like keeping your hand loose, using all the kinetic energy in your body rather than just moving your arm, and all kinds of nifty little tricks like that. I don't think Anderson was trained to headbutt turians.

The N7 academy (and his long military experience) has probably taught him a few things about hitting hard surfaces. From pure speculation, I suspect they'd prepare their soldiers as much as they could to face alien combat successfully [Turian physiology should be familiar to them after Shanxi], especially if they intend to move into galactic politics. Out of the 3 squishy races -- humanity, asari, & salarian --, the asari have the best edge due to innate biotic ability, but the other races seem to openly doubt human/salarian combat skills because of their appearance. Still, the asari are underestimated, and it's very apparent when Shepard speaks with the krogans.

The actual difference between humans and turians could go either way because there's plenty of evidence supporting both viewpoints. Until the devs lay down the law, it's mostly guesswork for now.  

You do realize what Anderson's focus was during that scene, right?

Modifié par silentstephi, 23 mars 2010 - 02:14 .

[MarginalBeast]

bushes289 wrote...

That doesn't make any sense, if Garrus were stronger because he's a turian, then Shepard wouldn't be able to knock out a turian with a single punch when unarmoured and she also sent that perverted Turian flying.

Like I said. Being physically strong doesn't make you a good fighter. Plus, weren't those turians just random thugs?

Also, cutscene magic.

[kglaser]

silentstephi wrote...


You do realize what Anderson's focus was during that scene, right?

Haha!  From that look on Anderson's face, I have no doubt but that that is what he was seeing!

[Gerse1]

aznsoisauce wrote...


Garrus will win amongst males, I will put money on that. In fact, he's winning already, right?

Females are far less predictable. AMIRITE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

...anyway.

I have to say that I find Garrus giving Shepard accidental (or not ;D) scratches and such (*cough*biting*cough*) insanely hot. I'll just...leave it at that.

I have to second you there .  I believe it was one of aynxalot's fics, actually, that included just such a thing?  I very much liked that little touch.  Heh, get it, touch /does grunt air quotes

[kglaser]

"If You Need Me" had that plus biting

[silentstephi]

Gerse1 wrote...

aznsoisauce wrote...


Garrus will win amongst males, I will put money on that. In fact, he's winning already, right?

Females are far less predictable. AMIRITE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

...anyway.

I have to say that I find Garrus giving Shepard accidental (or not ;D) scratches and such (*cough*biting*cough*) insanely hot. I'll just...leave it at that.

I have to second you there .  I believe it was one of aynxalot's fics, actually, that included just such a thing?  I very much liked that little touch.  Heh, get it, touch /does grunt air quotes

Yea... also in that club.  But not in the club of them freaking out over it.  Strange Bedfellows also had a nice take on that, though I thought Garrus was a bit too cussy in it XD  Otherwise it was a fun read.

And I would think that because of the way drell throats are, THEY'de b the ones purring, not turians.  It might be because of the flangy voice that makes us think purr.
Not a fan of rumbling purrs from turians.  Gravel growls?  Sure.  Purring?  Eeeeeh, not so much.  And I'd make a comment about turning ... you know, I'll just stop there, cause I can't figure out the invisible text thing.

[siltsonata]

aynxalot wrote...

Okay, maybe no Kaidan/Garrus fight (Garrus wouldn't fight back; can't see it), but possibly a shouting match. Garrus is good at calling people out on being a d!ck.

He does seem to love the word "bastard".  I think he has the highest word count for that one in both games.

[enormousmoonboots]

MarginalBeast wrote...
What is Mating Frenzy Garrus, exactly?

The Porn Farr!

As a Trekkie, I'm both used to it and kind of annoyed by it. Used to it, because it's become such a sci-fi trope by now that 'sex or die' is a fanfiction genre. Annoyed by it, because goddammit the people who use it are fundamentally misunderstanding its function, it's very specific to the Vulcans and their culture/biology and their self-enforced repression do you people not even watch Amok Time or something asdjkgsg--

Stephi--FUKKEN SAVED.

[bushes289]

I think that quite a few people have a bit of a purring fetish, Garrus isn't the first fictional character I've read about that people like to imagine purring. I remember I used to be obssesed with the anime InuYasha, the main character, InuYasha is a half-dog demon but people loved to have him purr even though he's a dog.
I alway's figured Garrus as the badass growling type, he's not enough of a **** to purr

Edit: I can't believe they censored p*ssy, yeesh. It's not like it's really that bad of a word, what if I just wanted to say p*ssy cat or something. *Grumbles* I despise censorship and I'm going to be dealing with it for the rest of my life, that's what I get for choosing to study Information and Library Technologies. By the way, passing that program will make me an information technician, in order to be called a librarian you need a master's degree, bet you didn't know that.

Modifié par bushes289, 23 mars 2010 - 02:35 .

[Ray Joel Oh]

Don't forget that they've got a weight advantage. At least, I'm pretty sure they do. But yeah, a pretty even match either way.



About the unique Shepards in fanfics, it really depends on what sort of story I'm reading. And how ridiculous her name is. If it's something really Mary Sue-ish like Gwynndolynn'Avalonia Shepard, that's pretty damned distracting. Especially since I usually only read smut.

[Nyx]

silentstephi wrote...

You do realize what Anderson's focus was during that scene, right?

Zaeed's Princple: Rage is one hell of an anesthetic.

[MarginalBeast]

Ah, I see. I know about the Vulcan sex thing but I'm not a big Star Trek fan so my brain didn't make the connection.



...People really use that in Mass Effect fics? Wow.



I think what also gets to me is when people write the pre-Omega 4 relay sex scene as some completely wild, crazy violent raunchy thing. And although I know everyone is different, I really just CAN'T see it. Further into the relationship? Sure. But at that time? No. I really don't think so.

[siltsonata]

silentstephi wrote...

You do realize what Anderson's focus was during that scene, right?

I have no idea why but that has me ROFLING.  This is the best thing I've seen all day.  I'm not sure if it's the NyQuil or what but DAMN THANK YOU FOR THIS.

[Zafflesia]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

About the unique Shepards in fanfics, it really depends on what sort of story I'm reading. And how ridiculous her name is. If it's something really Mary Sue-ish like Gwynndolynn'Avalonia Shepard, that's pretty damned distracting. Especially since I usually only read smut.

On some level I feel bad about it, because there's been a few cases where I've read such names and it... turned out to be their real name, lolololol... But yeah, generally it's a "wut" moment when I read a name with too many y's or l's in it. Lylyynelle

[bushes289]

MarginalBeast wrote...

Ah, I see. I know about the Vulcan sex thing but I'm not a big Star Trek fan so my brain didn't make the connection.

...People really use that in Mass Effect fics? Wow.

I think what also gets to me is when people write the pre-Omega 4 relay sex scene as some completely wild, crazy violent raunchy thing. And although I know everyone is different, I really just CAN'T see it. Further into the relationship? Sure. But at that time? No. I really don't think so.

Really? We're the complete opposite, I can't see it as a soft loving thing at all. But I suppose I'm biased, I'm not really into that soft romantic stuff, it makes me gag. 

[silentstephi]

siltsonata wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

You do realize what Anderson's focus was during that scene, right?

I have no idea why but that has me ROFLING.  This is the best thing I've seen all day.  I'm not sure if it's the NyQuil or what but DAMN THANK YOU FOR THIS.

<3
But seriously, after suffering throughreading the first ME novel, Anderson would have been WAAAAAAY more pissed at Saren than Udina at that point.
XD

[MarginalBeast]

bushes289 wrote...
I alway's figured Garrus as the badass growling type, he's not enough of a **** to purr

lolwut? I don't get the purring thing either, since turians do seem more likely to emit growling sounds, but if they did purr I fail to see how it would have anything to do with badassness.

'Cause you know. Lions purr. Well alright it isn't exactly a purr, but it sounds similar.

[janeym27]

MarginalBeast wrote...

Ah, I see. I know about the Vulcan sex thing but I'm not a big Star Trek fan so my brain didn't make the connection.

...People really use that in Mass Effect fics? Wow.

I think what also gets to me is when people write the pre-Omega 4 relay sex scene as some completely wild, crazy violent raunchy thing. And although I know everyone is different, I really just CAN'T see it. Further into the relationship? Sure. But at that time? No. I really don't think so.

Agreed. Apart from the fact it would be totally out of keeping with the way their relationship had progressed until that point, I'm rather of the opinion that their first time would have to be... shall we say, careful? After all, Garrus could pull a ligament, Shep could go into anhilphilactic shock... (Shep: Hey, TIM. Can't go after the collectors today. Sorry. Me and my gunner are both in the infirmary. Yeah.... a mission went...badly)

You want wild sex, you sex Jacob. Look at the forehead touch - with Gar it's going to be tender.

[silentstephi]

MarginalBeast wrote...

bushes289 wrote...
I alway's figured Garrus as the badass growling type, he's not enough of a **** to purr

lolwut? I don't get the purring thing either, since turians do seem more likely to emit growling sounds, but if they did purr I fail to see how it would have anything to do with badassness.

'Cause you know. Lions purr. Well alright it isn't exactly a purr, but it sounds similar.

Actually they can't.

Big cats don't purr, they roar.  Little cats yeowl, wishing they could roar.  Alas, they only purr.