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[Splinter Cell 108]

I used Wrex and Garrus all the time too. Unfortunately since Garrus isn't the one who Captain Anderson asks what happened to Shepard at the end I had to switch Wrex for Tali. That way Garrus is the main squadmate during the end. Although I only do this with two playthroughs, I like Wrex better than Tali. I wish he was recruitable in ME2.

[MarginalBeast]

Collider wrote...
I was going to say the same thing about him being friends with Shepard, but outside of references to tracking down Saren, I doubt they changed the dialogue that much if you didn't recruit Garrus in ME1. I think that the events between ME1 and ME2 kind of let him out of his shell, may have something to do with the audacity of being a vigilante in an merc-controlled place (Omega) as well as having his own merc band.

I'm pretty sure that's just laziness on part of the developers (I don't mean that in a bad way). They can't change the dialogue to suit everyone, so aside from one line you can pick when you first meet him on Omega if you never recruited him in ME1, they pretty much wrote the rest of his dialogue as if he and Shepard were good friends.

It's like how Tali still has a mad crush on Shepard even if he was a complete jerk to her in ME1 and refused to give her the geth data for her pilgrimage.

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 23 mars 2010 - 10:47 .

[Collider]

I honestly don't know what Joker means. Maybe he just means that Garrus is a little more vindictive and less reserved this time around.

[aznsoisauce]

I'm trying to imagine Garrus conversing with the other squad mates...but all I can think of is him going on and on about Turian superiority in a subconsciously snobby way. Guess I don't see him as a social butterfly.

[epoch_]

"Quiet Garrus"

Modifié par epoch_, 23 mars 2010 - 10:50 .

[Collider]

MarginalBeast wrote...
I'm pretty sure that's just laziness on part of the developers (I don't mean that in a bad way). They can't change the dialogue to suit everyone.
It's like how Tali still has a mad crush on Shepard even if he was a complete jerk to her in ME1 and refused to give her the geth data for her pilgrimage.

I agree that it seems strange that you can romance Garrus or Tali even if you treated them badly or didn't recruit Garrus in ME1. But if you don't do their loyalty missions, it's not as if you can do the romances anyway. With Tali, you've gained her trust because you didn't reveal her father's crimes. (if you did do it, she doesn't talk to you anymore). With Garrus, you helped with Sidonis (something a friend might do). I might also add that I'm sure plenty of girls have crushed on jerks before.

[kglaser]

aznsoisauce wrote...
...and then Garrus shouts "OBJECTION" because Turian fringes remind me of Phoenix Wright's hair.

:lol:

[Loerwyn]

Umanix wrote...

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

I didn't realise it was a choice D:

It's...not.  (Everyone else who choose to leave Garrus behind on the Citadel: Ssssssh). 

I, honestly, wasn't aware you had a choice in recruiting Garrus or Wrex. Yay for ignorance

[kglaser]

Umanix wrote...

She's just trying to follow Garrus' advice by staying hydrated! You know by...pouring it in her eye.

Maybe they are following the old toast "Here's mud in your eye!" too literally.

[Loerwyn]

I never actually used Wrex, I have to admit. I didn't find his character appealing at all, but if I ever play ME1 again I'll be sure to use him and Garrus.
Garrus is on my ME poster

[silentstephi]

Aaaaaaaand I've caught up! /cheer

EST btw, I'm like 20 mins south of boots in RI XD (The flood waters be risin'! /facepalm)



So, show down between other squaddies? Honestly, it's a bit of a stretch, or at least an interesting twist, but I could see Samara and Garrus having some tense conversations. Garrus is a Renegade in my 'verse, Samara's lawful stupidParagon, and she told me she'd probably have to kill me after all this is over. I'm pretty sure she'd have a similar feeling for Garrus, and probably some of the other crew as well. Meh, it's probably not something that would end up as a knock down drag out fight. I could see Grunt/Mordin though. Mordin having some major guilt issues there, and Grunt having someone else's memories goading him on.



Btw, that Friendly Chat fic was pretty fun XD It's like having that silly drell memory IN A BAD BAD BAD way.

[Collider]

Umanix wrote...

Collider wrote...

I agree that it seems strange that you can romance Garrus or Tali even if you treated them badly or didn't recruit Garrus in ME1. But if you don't do their loyalty missions, it's not as if you can do the romances anyway. With Tali, you've gained her trust because you didn't reveal her father's crimes. (if you did do it, she doesn't talk to you anymore). With Garrus, you helped with Sidonis (something a friend might do). I might also add that I'm sure plenty of girls have crushed on jerks before.

Sure, but the Garrus and Tali romances were geared towards people who wanted to romance these characters but couldn't in the first game. Those people aren't too likely to have left Garrus behind or to have been a jerk to Tali regarding the geth information. 

Doesn't make it any less weird that they're romanceable for Shepards who were jerks to them. 

Oh, I'm not saying it's not weird, because it is, just that it's not completely impossible. After all, you still need to help them out, and it's not unheard of people changing their minds about people.

[Catloafini]

Sorry to break up the convo but if I may intrude... (also excuse if this has already been done lol)
Weird glitch I just got now sorry I just couldn't help but doodle those bubbles in hehe...
(I got this after installing firewalker and alt. appearance too *shrug*)

Modifié par Catloafini, 23 mars 2010 - 11:36 .

[silentstephi]

Aw hell. I want to use the alternate suits so badly... but it's gonna mess up my video... GAH. /shakes fist at game...



Next playthrough...

[kglaser]

Got the outfits, Garrus's is so cool!! Can't wait to see it on him. He deserves a nice outfit after wearing the same banged-up C-Sec standard issue armor for 2 years (and with a big chunk out of it).

[Collider]

Catloafini wrote...


Sorry to break up the convo but if I may intrude... (also excuse if this has already been done lol)
Weird glitch I just got now sorry I just couldn't help but doodle those bubbles in hehe...
(I got this after installing firewalker and alt. appearance too *shrug*)

Yep, all of the romance interests are like this. Pretty funny.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

kglaser wrote...

Got the outfits, Garrus's is so cool!! Can't wait to see it on him. He deserves a nice outfit after wearing the same banged-up C-Sec standard issue armor for 2 years (and with a big chunk out of it).

Actually that wasn't C-secs armor.

[TristanFishface]

I swear his default ME2 armour is identical to the ME1 armour when you recruit him. Expect for the hole in it. Anyways Garrus for Me3! Hes too good at playing bad cop!

[Ray Joel Oh]

Concerning the "pole up his ass," Garrus took his rank pretty seriously in the first game. The conversation he had with Wrex on the elevator about "Who would win in a fight, you or Shepard?" was pretty touchy, and showed that he wasn't willing to joke around when it came to professionalism. He seemed like more of a stern military man in the first game. He respects Shepard at first because he accepts him/her as his commanding officer. After the mission with Dr Saleon it becomes more of a genuine respect for his/her morals and ideals (be they renegade or paragon). By the second game, you are friends and he is there out of loyalty and respect for what you've done, not subordination.

[jakenou]

Collider wrote...

Catloafini wrote...


Sorry to break up the convo but if I may intrude... (also excuse if this has already been done lol)
Weird glitch I just got now sorry I just couldn't help but doodle those bubbles in hehe...
(I got this after installing firewalker and alt. appearance too *shrug*)

Yep, all of the romance interests are like this. Pretty funny.

Aw! Kind of what I hoped for with the Garrus love scene anyway. BTW, this doesn't happen for the 360 version. I know because I did the Firewalker missions today, and afterwards I couldn't resist going back to my Garrus career and catching a quick cuddle or 2. Speaking of which...

[janeym27]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Concerning the "pole up his ass," Garrus took his rank pretty seriously in the first game. The conversation he had with Wrex on the elevator about "Who would win in a fight, you or Shepard?" was pretty touchy, and showed that he wasn't willing to joke around when it came to professionalism. He seemed like more of a stern military man in the first game. He respects Shepard at first because he accepts him/her as his commanding officer. After the mission with Dr Saleon it becomes more of a genuine respect for his/her morals and ideals (be they renegade or paragon). By the second game, you are friends and he is there out of loyalty and respect for what you've done, not subordination.

Yeah. For all his misgivings about C-Sec, he's still pretty 'by-the-book' in ME1. For example, if he's in your squad when you face the Rachnai Queen, he'll tell you that it's a descision for the council, not you. He's very duty bound. In ME2, he still has a sense of duty, but it feel more like a duty to his own ideas of right and wrong, instead of perscribed ones set by someone else. He also trusts Shepard's judgement more, but can you blame him?

Having said that, I never noitced half of that until I replayed ME1 after ME2. lol