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Garrus Love and Adoration v.2


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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

kglaser wrote...

Got the outfits, Garrus's is so cool!! Can't wait to see it on him. He deserves a nice outfit after wearing the same banged-up C-Sec standard issue armor for 2 years (and with a big chunk out of it).


Actually that wasn't C-secs armor.


D'oh, I was afraid I was wrong about that, but figured I'd post anyway :P
It's darn similar, though  ...right? :blush:

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I took some pics and uploaded them to a new Romance album I made here. So have I sunk to a new fangirl low, or is it a new fangirl high. No matter! Here's the picks (you can see them in my profile albums too):

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So what exactly do you
mean "my waistline is supportive"?

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Hands where we can see them kids! Or not...

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Dern eye selections don't close all the way sometimes, but she's got kind of an "I'm living a dream" look I guess. This might have to go in a little frame on my desk in the same fashion as my Shep's (now dowturned) picture of Kaidan.

Just had to share;)

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I think Ray has the right idea about what Joker said.

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Thanks for sharing, jk! Love how blonde your Fem!Shep is.

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Concerning the "pole up his ass," Garrus took his rank pretty seriously in the first game. The conversation he had with Wrex on the elevator about "Who would win in a fight, you or Shepard?" was pretty touchy, and showed that he wasn't willing to joke around when it came to professionalism. He seemed like more of a stern military man in the first game. He respects Shepard at first because he accepts him/her as his commanding officer. After the mission with Dr Saleon it becomes more of a genuine respect for his/her morals and ideals (be they renegade or paragon). By the second game, you are friends and he is there out of loyalty and respect for what you've done, not subordination.


That actually makes a whole megaton of sense. Can't believe I forgot that. DUR DUR. Garrus is the only alien on the squad in the first game who defers to Shepard's command immediately upon recruitment (What with the whole "this is your show, Shepard" spiel). 

Makes you wonder when he decided he wasn't a very good turian. It doesn't look like he had too much of that attitude going into the first game, but the second game? 

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Umanix wrote...

Thanks for sharing, jk! Love how blonde your Fem!Shep is.

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Concerning the "pole up his ass," Garrus took his rank pretty seriously in the first game. The conversation he had with Wrex on the elevator about "Who would win in a fight, you or Shepard?" was pretty touchy, and showed that he wasn't willing to joke around when it came to professionalism. He seemed like more of a stern military man in the first game. He respects Shepard at first because he accepts him/her as his commanding officer. After the mission with Dr Saleon it becomes more of a genuine respect for his/her morals and ideals (be they renegade or paragon). By the second game, you are friends and he is there out of loyalty and respect for what you've done, not subordination.


That actually makes a whole megaton of sense. Can't believe I forgot that. DUR DUR. Garrus is the only alien on the squad in the first game who defers to Shepard's command immediately upon recruitment (What with the whole "this is your show, Shepard" spiel). 

Makes you wonder when he decided he wasn't a very good turian. It doesn't look like he had too much of that attitude going into the first game, but the second game? 


Vigilantism isn't a very turian action.

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Sialater wrote...

Umanix wrote...

Thanks for sharing, jk! Love how blonde your Fem!Shep is.

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Concerning the "pole up his ass," Garrus took his rank pretty seriously in the first game. The conversation he had with Wrex on the elevator about "Who would win in a fight, you or Shepard?" was pretty touchy, and showed that he wasn't willing to joke around when it came to professionalism. He seemed like more of a stern military man in the first game. He respects Shepard at first because he accepts him/her as his commanding officer. After the mission with Dr Saleon it becomes more of a genuine respect for his/her morals and ideals (be they renegade or paragon). By the second game, you are friends and he is there out of loyalty and respect for what you've done, not subordination.


That actually makes a whole megaton of sense. Can't believe I forgot that. DUR DUR. Garrus is the only alien on the squad in the first game who defers to Shepard's command immediately upon recruitment (What with the whole "this is your show, Shepard" spiel). 

Makes you wonder when he decided he wasn't a very good turian. It doesn't look like he had too much of that attitude going into the first game, but the second game? 


Vigilantism isn't a very turian action.


Yeah it seems like it is what a human would do huh? He is acting based off of shepard's example. So basically hes acting like a human badass.

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Umanix wrote...

Thanks for sharing, jk! Love how blonde your Fem!Shep is.

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Concerning the "pole up his ass," Garrus took his rank pretty seriously in the first game. The conversation he had with Wrex on the elevator about "Who would win in a fight, you or Shepard?" was pretty touchy, and showed that he wasn't willing to joke around when it came to professionalism. He seemed like more of a stern military man in the first game. He respects Shepard at first because he accepts him/her as his commanding officer. After the mission with Dr Saleon it becomes more of a genuine respect for his/her morals and ideals (be they renegade or paragon). By the second game, you are friends and he is there out of loyalty and respect for what you've done, not subordination.


That actually makes a whole megaton of sense. Can't believe I forgot that. DUR DUR. Garrus is the only alien on the squad in the first game who defers to Shepard's command immediately upon recruitment (What with the whole "this is your show, Shepard" spiel). 

Makes you wonder when he decided he wasn't a very good turian. It doesn't look like he had too much of that attitude going into the first game, but the second game? 


Vigilantism isn't a very turian action.


Yeah it seems like it is what a human would do huh? He is acting based off of shepard's example. So basically hes acting like a human badass.


Which makes him, "not a very good turian."  He chucked all authority in the ultimate rebellion against everything he'd done so far because of her.

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aznsoisauce wrote...

I'm trying to imagine Garrus conversing with the other squad mates...but all I can think of is him going on and on about Turian superiority in a subconsciously snobby way. Guess I don't see him as a social butterfly.


I don't either. Hell, I don't even think he gets along well with most other turians. He may have a professional attitude, but he's still a "bad turian" in the sense that he doesn't have many problems with bending the law and refusing stupid orders.

I was always under the impression that he was never very good at making friends (or at least not good at keeping lasting friendships) or being sociable in general. Which is why I'm always puzzled when fanfiction writers portray him as a ladies man.

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When Garrus is comfortable, or possibly nervous, he does seem a bit of a smooth talker.

A good example is when he's on SR-2 after his recruitment mission and he's talking about women and scars.

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MarginalBeast wrote...
I was always under the impression that he was never very good at making friends (or at least not good at keeping lasting friendships) or being sociable in general. Which is why I'm always puzzled when fanfiction writers portray him as a ladies man.

To be fair, Garrus did have that casual encounter with the female turian and Garrus did say he gets hit on all the time (if you're male and choose the paragon option when Garrus asks how he looks with his scars, Shepard says "Don't worry, you were always ugly Garrus, and then Garrus says that at least now Shepard has a chance getting women). Not saying whether he's a ladies man or not, but those are just some things I remember. I don't see him as a social butterfly either.

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Important to mention though, what Garrus says about being hit on all the time could just be male rivalry and joking. It's not unlikely. =p

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EDIT: Forums being stupid.

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 24 mars 2010 - 01:59 .


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I agree, I think it was a joke. Wasn't sure if you knew about that line about Garrus getting hit on as it seems to be a male Shepard only thing. One of the few gender specific things outside of romance, IIRC. That is, I think that female Shepards don't get it.

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What female Sheps get is basically "I have scars. Women dig scars. Those women tend to be Krogan" :P

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Yeah, for female Shepard he says the flirtier "Some women find facial scars attractive. Granted, most of those women are Krogan..."

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Omg wtf. That post happened before I could finish it.

I thought the "women and scars" dialogue from him was just his attempt at a joke to lighten the mood. He wouldn't have actually admitted to disliking the scars. I don't think it means anything, since honestly, only turian women would be hitting on Garrus (for the most part...) and I get the feeling that most Shepards would prefer human/asari/quarian women anyway. Garrus is pretty good at covering up any lingering insecurities he may have.

The casual encounter during his military training is more evident of his interactions with women, but that was years ago, and I was under the impression that the female scout was the one who initiated it. Of course there's not much to indicate that, just a hunch I have since he never seemed like a sociable person at all in ME1 and I can't imagine him going around picking up women with much success. He doesn't even seem very comfortable talking about sex. He appears to care more about work anyway, as Dr. Michel's e-mail implies.

I don't know, if he had the same relaxed and smooth attitude in ME1 as he does in ME2 then I could definitely see it. But I've never really gotten that vibe from him. Maybe I'm just too used to his ME1 personality since I played through that game so many times.

BUT THEN AGAIN LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO LIARA.

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 24 mars 2010 - 02:00 .


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OnlyShallow89 wrote...

When Garrus is comfortable, or possibly nervous, he does seem a bit of a smooth talker.
A good example is when he's on SR-2 after his recruitment mission and he's talking about women and scars.


I think he probably does fine when he plans on it.  He's caught off guard by Shepard's advances.

Edit: But who knows...

Modifié par Ray Joel Oh, 24 mars 2010 - 02:01 .


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Liara's personality in ME2 seems out of character and quite a jump because most of us are missing the context from the Liara comics. Her friend (whom some think was romantically involved with Liara) was tortured and killed by the Shadow Broker among other disputes with the Shadow Broker. SB also tried to sell Shepard to the Collectors IIRC.

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Collider wrote...

Liara's personality in ME2 seems out of character and quite a jump because most of us are missing the context from the Liara comics. Her friend (whom some think was romantically involved with Liara) was tortured and killed by the Shadow Broker among other disputes with the Shadow Broker. SB also tried to sell Shepard to the Collectors IIRC.


Liara's personality jump from ME1 to the comics didn't make sense either. Then she makes another one from the comics to ME2. Now that I think about it, perhaps using anything in ME1 to judge a character is not the best idea. Still, it's hard not to.

Also, she doesn't know what happened to her friend. She said she doesn't even know if he's dead or alive. I hope he's alive.

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Mayyybeee Liara will make more sense once everything is laid out on the table. Or maybe getting herself out of archaeological digs and into society really did just change her.

Modifié par Ray Joel Oh, 24 mars 2010 - 02:06 .


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Feron had better be alive. BioWare needs to stop messing with our maliens. Diseases, gunships, ambiguous fates... I mean, c'mon.

(Yeah yeah Tali and Liara have their rough spots, but maliens.)

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MarginalBeast wrote...

Collider wrote...

Liara's personality in ME2 seems out of character and quite a jump because most of us are missing the context from the Liara comics. Her friend (whom some think was romantically involved with Liara) was tortured and killed by the Shadow Broker among other disputes with the Shadow Broker. SB also tried to sell Shepard to the Collectors IIRC.


Liara's personality jump from ME1 to the comics didn't make sense either. Then she makes another one from the comics to ME2. Now that I think about it, perhaps using anything in ME1 to judge a character is not the best idea. Still, it's hard not to.

Also, she doesn't know what happened to her friend. She said she doesn't even know if he's dead or alive. I hope he's alive.

Oh, my bad. I never read the comics so I kind of filled in the blanks there. Either way, I think the comics are important for the full picture, although I share your general sentiment that it doesn't seem make the most sense possible.

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IccaRa wrote...

Feron had better be alive. BioWare needs to stop messing with our maliens. Diseases, gunships, ambiguous fates... I mean, c'mon.

(Yeah yeah Tali and Liara have their rough spots, but maliens.)

Liara doesn't have it as bad as Thane, Garrus, and Tali. All three of those are put into some pretty dangerous situations.

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Guys, if garrus wasn't social how the hell was he able to single handly recruit 12 people for his gang on omega?

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I'd argue that he would have to be somewhat sociable to so effectively hold the loyalty of his men to the degree that he did. You don't just command that kind of loyalty by being super effective as a leader. Compare Garrus' leadership experience with Miranda's.

With Miranda, we can see that she didn't socialize with Wilson much outside of chastising him for calculation errors. Wilson calls her an "ice queen" which, again, suggests that Miranda didn't interact with Wilson on anything other than a professional level. Miranda can tell people what to do and can utilize their skills effectively, but she admits to severely lacking that "fire that makes someone willing to follow into hell itself" that Shepard has as a leader. This is something that the wife of one of Garrus' squadmates confirms that he has.

Dr. Michel's e-mail brings up a valid point: he does exclude others when he's busy with his "grand crusades," but what about people who play an active role in helping him realize the goals of his crusades? The fact that Garrus seems to be aware of their reasons for joining up with him implies he knew them beyond a "what can you do for me" level ala Miranda.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think his relationships with his squad means he's a social butterfly, but I don't think he'd completely hole himself up if he was working with the people Shepard has gathered in Mass Effect 2. I don't think he'd be willing to talk to all of them (Jack probably being at the bottom of his list), but I also don't think he'd isolate himself...like Jack.

Besides, I have this awesome mental image of Garrus talking to Mordin prior to the romance scene. I mean, Mordin specifically says "Less alcohol and mood music required" after he gives Shepard the sexy interspecies relations talk. And who is the only one that brings both items to the captain's cabin? Yep.

EDIT: Oh, and Feron is totally alive. Who else would be able to help Liara have beautiful Blueberry and Lime Starburst asari babies? 

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