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Garrus Love and Adoration v.2


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#5626
Ray Joel Oh

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Yeah, plus considering his issue with Sidonis, it seems to me like he and his squadmates were actual friends.

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Guys, if garrus wasn't social how the hell was he able to single handly recruit 12 people for his gang on omega?


Results.


However, I think he's superficially outgoing.  Just not letting anyone in but Shepard of either gender (and maybe Tali).  He can't be a total anti-social or he wouldn't be a Fire Team Leader.

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I always thought Garrus was cool, but in Mass Effect 2 I got even more respect for him when I found out there was a Turian sniper called Archangel who took out many mercs and a ship, there HAD to be only one man who could fit the role. A great character who NEEDS to be in ME3 as a squad member.

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You can't be a stable leader without having at least a hint of social skills. And judging the way he talks to shepard in those little chit chats they have it seems that he is a little social. He also tells you that the crew is polite to him which means that he has once in while probably mingled with some people.

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Recruiting people for a mission or job isn't the same thing as making friends with them. You can command respect from someone without being their friend. I did get the impression that he was rather close with his team, but that's bound to happen if they're the only people he really socialized with for almost two years. That doesn't mean he had the intention of doing so when he recruited them. Also, keep in mind that he's already friends with Shepard, so how he interacts with him/her isn't much to judge by. In ME1, before he really knew Shepard, he wasn't very open or friendly. He kept things very professional.

Plus I think you guys are misunderstanding me a little. When I said he isn't sociable I mean I just don't see him as the type who makes friends easily or often. Acquaintances or buddies, sure, but not friends. He even admits that Shepard is his only friend left in the galaxy. He may have disappeared for a couple of years, but if he had any truly strong friendships back in C-Sec or whatever then I don't think he'd be willing to dismiss them so easily.

But of course I don't think he's a complete anti-social shut-in either. He obviously knows how to socialize, but I wouldn't call him a social "butterfly".

I also find it odd that he never mentions his family. You'd think he would want to let them know he was alive and well. I suppose it's possible that he did and we just weren't informed.

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 24 mars 2010 - 02:26 .


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Yes. We need Garrus to shoot Reapers out of the sky in Mass Effect 3, dang it.

Modifié par Umanix, 24 mars 2010 - 02:25 .


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IccaRa wrote...

Feron had better be alive. BioWare needs to stop messing with our maliens. Diseases, gunships, ambiguous fates... I mean, c'mon.

(Yeah yeah Tali and Liara have their rough spots, but maliens.)


Heeey there's an Icca in teh Garrus thread :bandit:

Garrus getting 12 peple together to form his squad isn't really dependant on his social butterfly-ness though.  He got his team just like Shepard got hers: through action.  I don't find Garrus much of an introvert, but I don't think he'd clam up just because he wants to be alone (/razafrackin' calibrations GAH.)

There's also the hint that not only did he get to know his team well, but so did his team get to know him.  Hell, the mail you get from one the wife of a squad mate has to indicate some sort of social connection.  Not sure what, but it's there.

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Garrus is neither a social butterfly nor a recluse. That's all that needs to be said, I think.

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DragonShepard138 wrote...

I always thought Garrus was cool, but in Mass Effect 2 I got even more respect for him when I found out there was a Turian sniper called Archangel who took out many mercs and a ship, there HAD to be only one man who could fit the role. A great character who NEEDS to be in ME3 as a squad member.


Hear hear!

But back to the subject, I can expect that he wouldn't let many people close, even moreso after getting betrayed, but he's still generally pretty charismatic.  Which is why it's that much more adorable when he gets flustered by Shepard.

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I know of people who aren't socially adept but are great leaders. I think Garrus has social skills, maybe he just doesn't like to socialize with others. He's always working on "calibrations" and worrying about something. He even worries about the romance going right, even if he knew that he wanted it and that Shepard wanted it too. I'm sure he just doesn't like to socialize or to meet new people.

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IccaRa wrote...

Feron had better be alive. BioWare needs to stop messing with our maliens. Diseases, gunships, ambiguous fates... I mean, c'mon.

(Yeah yeah Tali and Liara have their rough spots, but maliens.)


Feron shows up in ME3 with facial scars and a fatal disease.

I also like to think that he and Liara became romantically involved, even just a little, but there's only one issue of the comics left and if it hasn't happened by now it won't ever. Then again, Liara does call him a "good friend" but tbh they don't seem like friends at this point either.

And I know if there were any romantic feelings between Liara and Feron, the Liara fans would rage. Rightfully so. But I still want it to happen.

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We need more conversations with garrus about his life in general. More talking and less calibrating!

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They'd rage pretty hard. Wouldn't be very tasteful of Bioware to do that, IMO.

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

We need more conversations with garrus about his life in general. More talking and less calibrating!


Yes his personal life is a mystery. The only things we know is that he grew up on Palaven, doesn't get along with his father and had sex with a female Turian who fought with him. That's about it. Sometimes I wonder if he had a mother since he only mentions his father when he talks about C-Sec.

#5640
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Yeah, it would be nice to hear more from Garrus. Surely there are more things he can tell us about his life. He couldn't have told us all the interesting things already.

Or even more in-depth thoughts about his feelings on the present. Cerberus, the Reapers, the council, turian culture in general, Shepard (not necessarily romantically), Shepard's death, more stories from Omega, blah blah.

Collider wrote...

They'd rage pretty hard. Wouldn't be very tasteful of Bioware to do that, IMO.


No it wouldn't, I agree.

Though I do hope you can hook up Tali and Kal'Reegar in ME3 (or push them in that direction at least) if you're a FemShep or a male Shepard that didn't romance Tali.

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I don't get all the Kal'Reegar adoration. He's alright but why the following?

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I personally don't think they have chemistry (Kal'Reegar and Tali).

Modifié par Collider, 24 mars 2010 - 02:43 .


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Ray Joel Oh wrote...

I don't get all the Kal'Reegar adoration. He's alright but why the following?


He's voiced by Adam Baldwin.

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Ray Joel Oh wrote...

I don't get all the Kal'Reegar adoration. He's alright but why the following?


I'm not a huge fan of him, but I do like him and I love Tali and I think they'd be cute together. That's it, really.

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I don't want Kal'Reegar to be romancable, same with Joker. Why? Because then Garrus would have some actual competition.

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MarginalBeast wrote...

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

I don't get all the Kal'Reegar adoration. He's alright but why the following?


I'm not a huge fan of him, but I do like him and I love Tali and I think they'd be cute together. That's it, really.

I don't really understand the reasoning. It is just because they're the most prominent quarians? I didn't see really see any chemistry there.

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Briallen wrote...

He's voiced by Adam Baldwin.


Oh.
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Maybe I'd get it if I ever got around to watching Firefly.

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Collider wrote...
I don't really understand the reasoning. It is just because they're the most prominent quarians? I didn't see really see any chemistry there.


You didn't, but I did. Reegar obviously really respects Tali, and I even thought I saw a hint of some deeper feelings too. However, not much indicates that Tali feels anything romantic towards him. Yet. Won't stop me from shipping it.

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Collider wrote...

I don't really understand the reasoning. It is just because they're the most prominent quarians? I didn't see really see any chemistry there.


It's like Pam trying to set Oscar up in The Office.  "I mean sure, they're the only two gay guys I know, but they were meant to be together."

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MarginalBeast wrote...

Collider wrote...
I don't really understand the reasoning. It is just because they're the most prominent quarians? I didn't see really see any chemistry there.


You didn't, but I did. Reegar obviously really respects Tali, and I even thought I saw a hint of some deeper feelings too. However, not much indicates that Tali feels anything romantic towards him. Yet. Won't stop me from shipping it.

This is off-topic, so I'll just leave this response here and close the discussion unless you want to pursue it further.

Either way, Tali does not seem to be receptive or interested
whatsoever. Kal treats Tali like the admiral's daughter, which she
doesn't like (even says it's hard being the admiral's daughter in ME1) Whereas Shepard treats Tali like Tali, like an equal, he
treats her well as friends rather than professional obligation (Kal
being a soldier hired to protect her). I've also seen several people in the military say that Kal is just being professional rather than crushing. Just to put it into context, Kal x Tali feels like Jack x Garrus to me.