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[Gerse1]

hahahah, now I am having a vision of Garrus tearing off his glove and slapping his opponent in the face with it, a la old cartoons. Whilst wearing a monocle.

[epoch_]

http://www.getperson.../persona/124097

[kglaser]

Gerse1 wrote...
 (ahem..talons...which incidentally I would also love to see him bust out on an enemy).

I wonder, though, how that would be regarded in turian society...I thought of Wookiee culture, from KOTOR where one would be considered a "madclaw" if he just attacked people and started biting and clawing them...they had a particular code of behavior in combat.  Would Garrus be acting dishonorably in the eyes of his people if he attacked someone with his talons?  Turian society is highly regimented; it's possible, I think.

Of course, having said that, I would pay money to see such an attack...just put that and the Harkin headbutt on a continuous loop, and there's entertainment for ya. :happy:

[Pannamaslo]

janeym27 wrote...

Garrus needs a gunblade! 

Why do you need a blade with this kind of claws?

Modifié par Pannamaslo, 27 mars 2010 - 04:30 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Maybe we would know that if bioware actually had GARRUS TALK TO US INSTEAD OF CALLIBRATING!



I swear, i get so mad when i hear that from him, he even says that after the suicide mission, like wtf? The mission is over, why the hell are you still calibrating those damn guns?

[kglaser]

I can't remember which fanfic it was right now, so I can't find the quote, but one of them had Garrus thinking to himself something like, "Shepard probably got tired of all his calibrations and left to find someone else. 'Calibrations'--smooth, Garrus. Real smooth." LOL

[janeym27]

Pannamaslo wrote...

janeym27 wrote...

Garrus needs a gunblade! 

Why do you need a blade with this kind of claws?

Um... 'cos gunblades are awesome!

There are references to Turien bladed weaponry. It would add to his badassery no end. Also, who wants to get blood and bile all over their nice clean claws? And just think of the mess left on the console after all those callibrations.

kglaser wrote...

I can't remember which fanfic it was right now, so I can't find the quote, but one of them had Garrus thinking to himself something like, "Shepard probably got tired of all his calibrations and left to find someone else. 'Calibrations'--smooth, Garrus. Real smooth." LOL

[Pacifien]

Was looking through ELE08's excellent collection of ME1 Garrus photos yesterday and decided on this one for wallpaper:


It's on a rather large HDTV that's slightly angled such that whoever walks to the left of it looks like they're in Garrus's sights. Friend even did a double-take and asked me why Garrus was trying to kill him.

Modifié par Pacifien, 27 mars 2010 - 05:04 .

[RiotLaFontaine]

Just to post progress on my Mass Effect screenshot pack, I am uploading parts 1-6 right now and will post links when they're completed. There are over 1,500 turian and Garrus screenshots so far.

[MidnightSG]

http://smg.photobuck...nt=ohnoesss.jpg

Okay I will stop.
._.

Modifié par MidnightSG, 27 mars 2010 - 05:37 .

[Kim Shepard]

aynxalot wrote...

Aww.
Sidonis: "No more bad dreams..."
Garrus: "For either of us." *BLAM!*

See?! There's so much he straight-up doesn't talk about. My Paragon Shep can help you with those bad dreams, Garrus, you just never told her about them. *Sigh* More fanfic time....

How did you get that coversation? Is that what happens when Shepard makes Sidonis talk for a while before Garrus kills him? I have a Shepard who needs to do this.

Edit: Found my answer. >.>; The forums confuse me by not quoting the whole post...

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 27 mars 2010 - 06:09 .

[MarginalBeast]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

I have a question about the lack of conversations with Garrus. No one else had only 3 normandy convos sans the romance, everyone else had around 5. Surely Bioware knew this??? It puzzles me because;

1. Garrus is very popular with fans so it makes no sense on their part to only restrict his dialouge
2. There was a structure with all the other crew members ( typically went 2 convos , mission convo, post-mission convo, last convo) yet garrus didn't have this structure, why?
3. Bioware couldn't have NOT known he didn't have as much to say

So what is their reasoning for it?? Do they even have a reason? Its just so freakin odd isn't it?

They either ran out of time or they didn't think giving him more conversations was necessary, I'm guessing. I really hope it's the former, because honestly, what did we really learn about Garrus in ME2? Not that much, if you ask me. We learned about stuff he's been through recently (and not so recently), but I didn't feel like I learned anything more about him personally that I didn't already know from ME1. We learned that he was a vigilante on Omega for awhile, that he had a one-night stand with a nameless turian woman back in his early military days (which overall told us more about turian military ships than about Garrus), and that he left C-Sec after Shepard died because of all the red tape (where have I heard this before?). The only thing even remotely important out of all of those was the Omega incident. Unless I'm forgetting something...but if I forgot about it, what does that say? I just wish he would have told us more. He could have talked about his bad dreams instead of his sex life, for example. Or more about his family, or how he felt about Shepard's death, or any number of things that are significantly more important and more interesting.

And I've noticed that most (if not all) of his Normandy conversations are incredibly linear. Shepard doesn't get a whole lot of paragon/neutral/renegade dialogue options to pick from. And his romance conversations are completely linear. Like, 100%. You have no variety of choices during the romance (besides having the option to break it off), except for the paragon interrupt in the final scene, which was honestly kind of lame so I never pick it.

Garrus' loyalty mission and recruitment mission were what made him awesome in ME2. His Normandy conversations felt quite lacking both in quality and quantity. It could be because his original writer worked on the recruitment/loyalty missions whereas his Normandy dialogue and romance were handled by someone else. Which probably also explains his change of personality between ME1 and ME2 (but at least it can be assumed that he's just much less reserved because he knows Shepard better now).

Tali and Garrus were both put in the game as fanservice (which isn't necessarily a bad thing), but it seems to me that Tali had a lot more effort put into her. It's a real shame, honestly. If Garrus returns as a squadmate in ME3 then I hope the writers make up for it.

Alright I'm done whining. I'm tempted to copy and paste this into the "ME3 Wishlist" thread though.

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 27 mars 2010 - 07:42 .

[onibontan]

aynxalot wrote...

Aww.
Sidonis: "No more bad dreams..."
Garrus: "For either of us." *BLAM!*

See?! There's so much he straight-up doesn't talk about. My Paragon Shep can help you with those bad dreams, Garrus, you just never told her about them. *Sigh* More fanfic time....

Poor Garrus Is there a video of this dialogue somewhere?? 

[ELE08]

MarginalBeast wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

I have a question about the lack of conversations with Garrus. No one else had only 3 normandy convos sans the romance, everyone else had around 5. Surely Bioware knew this??? It puzzles me because;

1. Garrus is very popular with fans so it makes no sense on their part to only restrict his dialouge
2. There was a structure with all the other crew members ( typically went 2 convos , mission convo, post-mission convo, last convo) yet garrus didn't have this structure, why?
3. Bioware couldn't have NOT known he didn't have as much to say

So what is their reasoning for it?? Do they even have a reason? Its just so freakin odd isn't it?

They either ran out of time or they didn't think giving him more conversations was necessary, I'm guessing. I really hope it's the former, because honestly, what did we really learn about Garrus in ME2? Not that much, if you ask me. We learned about stuff he's been through recently (and not so recently), but I didn't feel like I learned anything more about him personally that I didn't already know from ME1. We learned that he was a vigilante on Omega for awhile, that he had a one-night stand with a nameless turian woman back in his early military days (which overall told us more about turian military ships than about Garrus), and that he left C-Sec after Shepard died because of all the red tape (where have I heard this before?). The only thing even remotely important out of all of those was the Omega incident. Unless I'm forgetting something...but if I forgot about it, what does that say? I just wish he would have told us more. He could have talked about his bad dreams instead of his sex life, for example. Or more about his family, or how he felt about Shepard's death, or any number of things that are significantly more important and more interesting.

And I've noticed that most (if not all) of his Normandy conversations are incredibly linear. Shepard doesn't get a whole lot of paragon/neutral/renegade dialogue options to pick from. And his romance conversations are completely linear. Like, 100%. You have no variety of choices during the romance (besides having the option to break it off), except for the paragon interrupt in the final scene, which was honestly kind of lame so I never pick it.

Garrus' loyalty mission and recruitment mission were what made him awesome in ME2. His Normady conversations felt quite lacking both in quality and quantity. It could be because his original writer worked on the recruitment/loyalty missions whereas his Normandy dialogue and romance were handled by someone else. Which probably also explains his change of personality between ME1 and ME2 (but at least it can be assumed that he's just much less reserved because he knows Shepard better now).

Tali and Garrus were both put in the game as fanservice (which isn't necessarily a bad thing), but it seems to me that Tali had a lot more effort put into her. It's a real shame, honestly. If Garrus returns as a squadmate in ME3 then I hope the writers make up for it. :|

Okay. Rant over. I'm tempted to copy and paste this into the "ME3 Wishlist" thread though.

I hadn't really considered how linear the romance dialogue is until now.  Probably just too stoked that it was an option in the first place.  I hope/assume it was a resource issue.  In comparison, in the first game with Kaidan, Shepard could respond in neutral, paragon, or renegade fashion and he would have a slightly different response to give, however it all served to progress the romance.  So not only is it possible to add branching LI dialogue, they've done it before!

I hope since they have all their resources in place already, there is going to be loads of dialogue in the 3rd game.  I could die happy.

RiotLaFontaine wrote...

Just to post progress on my Mass Effect screenshot pack, I am uploading
parts 1-6 right now and will post links when they're completed. There
are over 1,500 turian and Garrus screenshots so far.

Holy crappers, that's awesome!  I am in need of additional resources for perverse Garrus photoshop experiments new wallpapers.

[Collider]

Mass Effect 1 romances in my opinion had better pacing. As a whole however, I felt that the romances in ME2 were more emotional. Mostly because you helped your romance interest and they learned to trust you. You've got a stake in them. In Mass Effect 1, it felt more casual. More of a "I like you, you like me," in ME1 versus "I trust you and want to be with you," in ME2.

[janeym27]

aynxalot wrote...

Aww.
Sidonis: "No more bad dreams..."
Garrus: "For either of us." *BLAM!*

See?! There's so much he straight-up doesn't talk about. My Paragon Shep can help you with those bad dreams, Garrus, you just never told her about them. *Sigh* More fanfic time....

See - Shep never talks about her problems either. It's why I persoanlly see Garrus as the mirror of Shep: both have that 'leader protecting their team' burden experience, and don't like to burden others with their own stuff (Leadery aloofness, y'see.) I have a feeling that in a relationship, there are going to be a lot of stoic silences.

Garrus: We aren't good at this.
Shepard: I have to go.

[aznsoisauce]

Re: Leon VS. Squall - They didn't really change his name, he just for some reason felt like using an alias...If I remember correctly, at one point in Kingdom Hearts 2, Yuffie tries to call him Squall and he scolds her. In any case, the Kingdom Hearts games are a mixed bag of what-the-f*ckery.
 

RiotLaFontaine wrote...

Just to post progress on my Mass Effect screenshot pack, I am uploading parts 1-6 right now and will post links when they're completed. There are over 1,500 turian and Garrus screenshots so far.

YES!! 

Edit: @janeym27 - XD
...I have to go...
LOL

Modifié par aznsoisauce, 27 mars 2010 - 07:55 .

[onibontan]

Is it just me or does Garrus say a slightly different line here when Shepard tells him to let Sidonis go?? (9: 29)
www.youtube.com/watch

... He sounds so angry and pained at the same time ;_; But how do you get that line? *confused*

Also: Garrus having second thoughts?? I thought he was so sure about wanting to kill Sidonis? (0:21) Hm .... www.youtube.com/watch

Weird I could swear he said something different here in my game.

Modifié par Honigkuchenpferd87, 27 mars 2010 - 07:56 .

[Minardii]

Wow, he does sound so angry; maybe if it happens if you renegaded him/said it was such a good idea, then suddenly decide to paragon this part?



I definitely went "Woaaahh" when I heard it, he just sounds so driven to end his life.

[onibontan]

It makes me sad to see Garrus so angry but it also made me squee a little because I hadn't heard that line before °w°

[Minardii]

Haha, yeah. It's always neat to find the conversational paths and small comments you've missed, despite having done a few playthroughs..

Shepard's comment afterwards was interesting too "Will 11 make it better?" (However it went). Garrus really was in the heat of the moment there, and then he still tells you that there was some good in him still after it all, it amuses me.

[onibontan]

Yeah the transition is kinda abrupt. It would've made more sense to leave that for when you have returned to the Normandy and done a few missions.

[Minardii]

Yeah, guess they just wanted a quick wrap up on these missions, so it just feels quite fast. It sort of makes me hope that with ME2 having us get and save/lose our squad mates, that we'll be rewarded with more conversations in ME3 but who knows.



Oh Garrus, so many threads seem to pop up around your loyalty mission. They really did a good job with the "Shades of gray" aspect and manipulating people's emotions about him. (I don't know what to do with those shades of gray, man!)

[Flammie]

...I just realised Lazarus is also a character from Shining Tears. Yay for obscure references.



...Anyway

It's impressive, they've really put a lot of thought into how Garrus's character can be swayed. I've also noticed that he's chewing on his collar at 0:30 of the second vid. I wonder how nutritious metal is to him.

Modifié par Flammie, 27 mars 2010 - 08:37 .