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[SavageLycan]

Von Verrikan wrote...

aznsoisauce wrote...

Von Verrikan wrote...

You know what being a Garrus fan does to you? It turns you into a damn Turian, that's what it does.

http://i977.photobuc...errikan1b-1.jpg

For anyone curious. Yes, that is a shirtless Turian image. Yes, that's my Turian self. And since people might ask me about it.. The nut I'm holding? You remember that bartender on Illum who warns you not to eat nuts from the red bowls? Exactlllyyyy.

I dunno, I thought it was pretty clever.

I didn't notice the nut until you mentioned it...and somehow it's hilarious! Oh, come on...shirtless Turian eating bar nuts!

Anyway...FREAKIN SWEET.

Thank you! 

Nothing wrong with eating bar nuts shirtless, right? I mean.. What Turian doesn't go to a bar half naked just to do that?

I didn't see that picture of yours by Severus until just now Von. That's pretty damn spiffy! Your turian-sona. Ha ha.

[Von Verrikan]

SavageLycan wrote...

Von Verrikan wrote...

aznsoisauce wrote...

Von Verrikan wrote...

You know what being a Garrus fan does to you? It turns you into a damn Turian, that's what it does.

http://i977.photobuc...errikan1b-1.jpg

For anyone curious. Yes, that is a shirtless Turian image. Yes, that's my Turian self. And since people might ask me about it.. The nut I'm holding? You remember that bartender on Illum who warns you not to eat nuts from the red bowls? Exactlllyyyy.

I dunno, I thought it was pretty clever.

I didn't notice the nut until you mentioned it...and somehow it's hilarious! Oh, come on...shirtless Turian eating bar nuts!

Anyway...FREAKIN SWEET.

Thank you! 

Nothing wrong with eating bar nuts shirtless, right? I mean.. What Turian doesn't go to a bar half naked just to do that?

I didn't see that picture of yours by Severus until just now Von. That's pretty damn spiffy! Your turian-sona. Ha ha.

Thanks!

Remember, don't eat the nuts in the red bowls. They're for Turians and Quarians only. You'll get cramps

[Sialater]

This is going to be slightly off-topic, but I really have to congratulate that cook on the Normandy II. The galley in the Normandy 1 only had at most three biotics to feed (Wrex, Liara and Kaiden, sometimes, Shep). The guy on the Normandy II (who's name completely escapes me at the moment) has Shep (sometimes), Miranda, Jacob, Jack, Samara (I'm assuming aliens also have to eat a lot to compensate), and Thane. I'm surprised we're not running for groceries every other system. 4000 calories is A LOT TO EAT. What, do we carbo load on the way down in the shuttle?



Back on topic: Given turian suspicion of biotics -- I get the idea it's worse than in human space -- I'm increasingly surprised Garrus never mentions it, not even in ME1. But, then, I guess it's more a problem with the ignoring the biotics than it is with Garrus.

[Xaila]

Sialater wrote...

Back on topic: Given turian suspicion of biotics -- I get the idea it's worse than in human space -- I'm increasingly surprised Garrus never mentions it, not even in ME1. But, then, I guess it's more a problem with the ignoring the biotics than it is with Garrus.

I've noticed that they acknowledge biotics pretty selectively in Mass Effect.  For some characters (Kaidan, Jack, etc.) it's a really big deal and in others its only mentioned in passing maybe (Shepard, Jacob).  I'm kinda disappointed they didn't touch more on Wrex.

Re: Turians being suspicious of biotics - the "you humans are all racist" Turian on the citadel seems to be biotic.  Doesn't the customs lady ask him to remove his amps?  I didn't even think about that until now.  

[Von Verrikan]

Xaila wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Back on topic: Given turian suspicion of biotics -- I get the idea it's worse than in human space -- I'm increasingly surprised Garrus never mentions it, not even in ME1. But, then, I guess it's more a problem with the ignoring the biotics than it is with Garrus.

I've noticed that they acknowledge biotics pretty selectively in Mass Effect.  For some characters (Kaidan, Jack, etc.) it's a really big deal and in others its only mentioned in passing maybe (Shepard, Jacob).  I'm kinda disappointed they didn't touch more on Wrex.

Re: Turians being suspicious of biotics - the "you humans are all racist" Turian on the citadel seems to be biotic.  Doesn't the customs lady ask him to remove his amps?  I didn't even think about that until now.  

He says he isnt a biotic, but when he objected at first the customs lady assumed he was.

[siltsonata]

Sialater wrote...

Human females have one "benefit" when it comes to interspecies, er... diplomacy, let's call it. They bear an uncanny resemblance to the asari which most species seem to find incredibly attractive. 

And I was fully expecting Garrus to bring this up at some point, but he never did. (Which for me cements my conclusion that Garrus was just in love with his work and nothing else for pretty much his whole life. He's never even considered an asari relationship? Damn, Garrus.) In fact, if I'm not mistaken no one in game really mentions it except for that awesome salarian bachelor party group, and they seem to suspect that pheromones might have something to do with the fact that everyone finds them attractive and more similar to their own species.  Then again, it could be that I'm reading to much into that and it was completely for the lulz.

WindOverTuchanka wrote...

One thing I liked about Thane in my playthroughs is synchronicity.

There is him-the sniper, the target, the well-aligned shot waiting to be fired, the girl who stands in the way of his bullet. The girl refuses to move, he falls in love, the target walks away unharmed.

And then, on the Citadel, there's another sniper, another target, another well-aligned shot waiting to be fired. Another girl stands in the way of the bullet and refuses to move. Thane falls in love (but alas, this time it's unrequited), Sidonis walks away unharmed.

I dun shat bricks.  WOAH.

RiotLaFontaine wrote...

For FemShepards, his commentary about his scars and the reach and flexibility conversation both take on a meaning very different then when similar discussions happen with MaleShepards.  The reactions among fans to these scenes when they first played out are evident enough of this allusion.

It's easy to forget that a conversation can be the exact same for a FemShep and a MaleShep but have entirely different meanings, connotations, and effects due to inherent gender differences.  Likewise, MaleShep and FemShep are two entirely different characters - if they were the same, if everything meant the same, then they'd have the same romance options.  But there are fundamental differences between them.

Yep.  Til the day I die I will believe the "For you, it's just 'Garrus'" line was written entirely for the femsheps and malesheps just got it as well because it still kind of works.

Alas though, I feel like the "some women find facial scars attractive" bit was just put in there so that dudesheps could get that frickin' amazing and lultastically superior line about how it's "Just as well. Everyone was always ignoring you and hitting on me. Time for you to get a fair shot at it." Oh man, Garrus, you pimp, you.

Sialater wrote...

This is going to be slightly off-topic, but I really have to congratulate that cook on the Normandy II. The galley in the Normandy 1 only had at most three biotics to feed (Wrex, Liara and Kaiden, sometimes, Shep). The guy on the Normandy II (who's name completely escapes me at the moment) has Shep (sometimes), Miranda, Jacob, Jack, Samara (I'm assuming aliens also have to eat a lot to compensate), and Thane. I'm surprised we're not running for groceries every other system. 4000 calories is A LOT TO EAT. What, do we carbo load on the way down in the shuttle?.

I'm so glad somebody else thinks about this!!!  One of the first things I do is go to the Citadel to buy Gardner's quality rations, and I like to believe that we're going to Costco to buy it in bulk or something cuz DAMN.

I keep having this mental image where Legion, Tali, and Garrus sit at the mess table, staring as all the biotics on the ship (for me this includes Shepard) frantically shovel food in their mouths (DBZ-style actually, for anyone who knows what I'm talking about here.)  Mordin is all scientific and explains about the calorie requirement for the non-biotics. (Grunt eats just as much as the biotics. You know he does. )

Modifié par siltsonata, 22 février 2010 - 06:29 .

[Gerse1]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

The only point I'll argue is that him saying "I won't pretend I have a fetish for humans" does NOT mean he doesn't find them attractive.  Rather, that he's never taken the time to think about whether he finds them attractive in the first place.  I mean, he was always so busy running around being the cowboy cop that he never took the time to notice the pretty ladies.  I mean, he's never checked out girls of another species outside of turians anyway.  He says as such.

Except that his "compliments" in his final scene also seem strained/forced, to me.  Part of that can be attributed to not knowing what to say, but surely he can think of a better way to compliment hair than that it looks "good"--if he actually means it.  I doubt he'd get away with what he said if Shepard were a turian!  I'm assuming that what we hear of Garrus is through a translator--if he knows some Earth languages/English and has switched to it there, then I could understand the poor choice of words.  No matter how awkward he's been in either game, I've never before seen him choose his wording that poorly.  And why would you think he's attracted to other species if he's never been drawn to consider looking at them?  People tend to notice when they think someone is attractive.  I think, given the dialogue, that in the Shepard-Garrus romance, it's not about physical attraction at all.  It's because of who they are--and to me, that's a lot nicer than believing that they think each other is hot.

To me his captian's cabin lines came across more subtlely than that.  I took his "well..if you were turian I'd say this and that, so...yeah, your waist, your...hair" comments more as another example of him injecting his sense of humor into a stressful situation.  Usually those stressful situations are battles, but romance apparently is also fair game.  It was a way of dissapating the tension and nervousness/awkwardness they probably both had about crossing species lines.  I don't think they were insults at all.

And I think the same can be said about Shepard saying "Hell you were always ugly, just slap some face paint on it."  She was teasing him, because he's an old friend, she can get away with calling him "ugly."  I don't think anything in the games so far has revealed what Shep or Garrus truly think about the physical or aesthetic attrativeness of each other, or their species as a whole.  And it's possible that, much like some people in this forum they were initially neutral on whether or not the other was "hot" but came to find just *that one human* or *this particular turian* sexy because of everything else they love about them.

[Gerse1]

ok, i don't know why my edit made a double post. having issues today.

Modifié par Gerse1, 22 février 2010 - 07:04 .

[Gerse1]

siltsonata wrote...

Nightfire78 wrote...
I also have to adress one thing that keeps coming up (and I keep not getting around to commenting on it). Unless the line I get is somehow different, Garrus says he doesn't have a "human fetish", that doesn't actually say anything about whether or not finds Shep. (or even the occassional other human) attractive as a fetish is a "fixation", an "object of unreasonably excessive attention" to quote the dictionary. While I know I can be accused of splitting hairs on this point, I just felt the need to point out that not having a "human fetish" does not automatically translate into finding humans unattractive.

100% true.

But I think the reason so many people (myself included) translate the line as meaning "Do not want bang HUMAN." is just the way it's delivered in the context of the sentence, and Garrus himself.  He's snarky in this game.  I felt like the fetish remark was something of a hyperbole judging by the way he said it, and that he continued to say "but this isn't about that", like the word "that" means sexual attraction in general. 

Again, this is totally interpretation and I have no evidence other than the impression that I got from listening to it myself, which I just wanted to explain to give perspective.

Agreed, I think his delivery of the line might cause a little confusion, but also to me it's more he's trying to say to Shep "Don't think I only want you BECAUSE you're human...I don't want just any human...I want you."   Wait, that's VanderShep's line..

[Sialater]

siltsonata wrote...

I'm so glad somebody else thinks about this!!!  One of the first things I do is go to the Citadel to buy Gardner's quality rations, and I like to believe that we're going to Costco to buy it in bulk or something cuz DAMN.

I keep having this mental image where Legion, Tali, and Garrus sit at the mess table, staring as all the biotics on the ship (for me this includes Shepard) frantically shovel food in their mouths (DBZ-style actually, for anyone who knows what I'm talking about here.)  Mordin is all scientific and explains about the calorie requirement for the non-biotics. (Grunt eats just as much as the biotics. You know he does. )

If Grunt eats like a human biotic, can you just imagine how much WREX shoveled in? 

I have no idea what DBZ-style eating is, but I have two Labrador retrievers.  I think I get it.  "Mass Quantities" do not begin to describe it.  (Yes, I just dated myself.)

On my ship, Shep's one of the biotics, too:
Garrus:  Shepard, do all humans eat that much?
Shepard:  No, I eat this much so I can throw husks across a room at the speed of sound.

[siltsonata]

Gerse1 wrote...
EDIT: just adding that I know I'm only echoing what others of said but I have trouble keeping up and sometimes I just wanna say what I'm thinking without reading 3 more pages and forgetting all my thoughts in the first place.

Ha, know what you mean.  I've bee doing my morning forum catchup ritual (yeah, now it's thoroughly part of my wakeup routine: Breakfast and the Garrus Love thread go hand in hand. It feels like it should be pathetic, and yet I don't care.) for a few weeks now and it's hard to remember what you're gonna say.  At this point I go through it in tabs: One for the forum page, and one for my eventual comment that I know I'm gonna want to leave.  I write as I go at this point.

...Feels like just yesterday that I was too afraid of the internet to leave any comments at all.  What have you done to me, G-Love?! 

[siltsonata]

Sialater wrote...
If Grunt eats like a human biotic, can you just imagine how much WREX shoveled in? 

....omg.


I WOULD PAY TO SEE THIS.

[Gerse1]

Remaix wrote...

Gerse1 wrote...

siltsonata wrote...

I don't really adore Thane, (I've ah...I've never actually managed a playthrough romancing him, I just watched the videos on youtube.  It's not my fault! Garrus's is just too good!)  I just like him as a non-LI and I can see where his fangirls are coming from. (There was one moment where he really caught me off-guard in my first playthrough:  His line about "The taste of another's tongue in your mouth".  He had me blushing in a good way, but that was the last time he ever had me.)  

Yeah, the tongue-in-your-mouth line kind of snuck up on me too, I
was like "oh reeeeeeally now, hmmmm...hmm hmm hmm."  I romanced him one
of the times; I think despite the uberangst
his romance will be rewarding if Shep's able to find a cure for him. 
Then all his problems will be solved, yayyy!

Same here. When that happened I just sat there for a second, probably blushing. "...kay. :blush:"
Now that I think about it, I think the same thing happened when I started flirting with Garrus. And when I got Mordin's, ah... rejection, 'cause by the time I activated that dialogue, I hadn't started flirting yet. So awkward and I felt sad 'cause he rejected me! :< *COUGH*

Also, I'd like to blame Bioware for making me attracted to turians. So, Bioware? Thanks. I hate you guys for making the humans completely uninteresting in comparision! 

Hmm, actually, you're right, since I was spoiler-free, the first time Garrus told his reach and flexibility story I was like "OH...../blush, /raise eyebrow" and then "we could relieve some stress" came up on the wheel and I said out loud "*gasp* REALLY!??!?!?!?":O:O:O" haha.

BUT, you can hit on Mordin!??!? when??? how??? argh! Why does my game have so many bugs :crying:.  I knew you could get rejected by Samara but....it makes me smirk actually when even before Morinth Shep tries to pat Samara on the arm or something and she's like ew.don't.touch.me.

[Sialater]

siltsonata wrote...

Sialater wrote...
If Grunt eats like a human biotic, can you just imagine how much WREX shoveled in? 

....omg.


I WOULD PAY TO SEE THIS.

You'd have to count your fingers after that.

[-D-C-D-]

I love you Garrus. Enough said

[siltsonata]

Gerse1 wrote...

BUT, you can hit on Mordin!??!? when??? how??? argh! Why does my game have so many bugs :crying:.  I knew you could get rejected by Samara but....it makes me smirk actually when even before Morinth Shep tries to pat Samara on the arm or something and she's like ew.don't.touch.me.

If you don't romance anyone (I believe), he suspects that the reason that you keep talking to him is that you've got the hots for him.   If you ask, he'll mention that it's happened to him before and that his skin tone is attractive to turians, and that certain krogan sexual deviants enjoy Salarian "flexibility".  

Rrrr I'm trying to find the video on youtube but it's flooded with millions of him singing. 

EDIT: THEEEERE We go.

Modifié par siltsonata, 22 février 2010 - 07:02 .

[Sialater]

LMAO, what is WITH flexibility in this game?!?!?

[Gerse1]

@ WindOverTuchanka

Wow, thanks for that insight about Thane, Garrus, snipers, and universal irony.  Also I love your name =).

Yeah so I will be trying to make more of an effort not to get ahead of myself with replies and reading to the end of the line first.  *is sheepish*.   For example, scratch that question about romancing Mordin...

Also, ConceptSaren was one creepy mofo.

Re: reactions to biotics/Shep's class -- Come to think of it, I don't think Shep's class has ever been acknowledged by an NPC, ever.  Even the backstory is ignored more often than I would wish.  Maybe that would be something good to add in ME3.  Vanguard, Sentinel, Infiltrator...they're all pretty different.  You'd think it'd affect how Shep comes across to people.  Just like Thane vs. Grunt is a very different impression.

On asari:  sometimes I got the feeling that ME2 was hinting maybe the asari are mind****king all of us.  OK that's an extreme way of putting it...but...with Morinth, and the bachelor party convo, and how the matriarch bartender's "mystery drink" magically makes her all gussied up.   Just, er, something to think about

[Forwen]

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Modifié par Forwen, 22 février 2010 - 07:04 .

[Remaix]

siltsonata wrote...

Gerse1 wrote...

BUT, you can hit on Mordin!??!? when??? how??? argh! Why does my game have so many bugs :crying:.  I knew you could get rejected by Samara but....it makes me smirk actually when even before Morinth Shep tries to pat Samara on the arm or something and she's like ew.don't.touch.me.

If you don't romance anyone (I believe), he suspects that the reason that you keep talking to him is that you've got the hots for him.   If you ask, he'll mention that it's happened to him before and that his skin tone is attractive to turians, and that certain krogan sexual deviants enjoy Salarian "flexibility".  

Rrrr I'm trying to find the video on youtube but it's flooded with millions of him singing. 

EDIT: THEEEERE We go.

Yeah, it only happens if you don't romance anyone. So, if you get this, you won't get the romantic advice. Which made me sad.

[Sialater]

Gerse1 wrote...


Re: reactions to biotics/Shep's class -- Come to think of it, I don't think Shep's class has ever been acknowledged by an NPC, ever.  Even the backstory is ignored more often than I would wish.  Maybe that would be something good to add in ME3.  Vanguard, Sentinel, Infiltrator...they're all pretty different.  You'd think it'd affect how Shep comes across to people.  Just like Thane vs. Grunt is a very different impression.

In ME1, Kaiden comments on it if you're an adept, asks about your implant.

[siltsonata]

Remaix wrote...

Yeah, it only happens if you don't romance anyone. So, if you get this, you won't get the romantic advice. Which made me sad.

No, if you had more than one Mordin sex talk per game Shep's head would just explode from sheer awesome.

God, I love Mordin.  I cannot even express how much I love the hell out of Professor Mordin Goddamn Solus.  If he isn't in ME3, I just...I'm going to throw a ****fit that they'll hear all the way in Australia. I mean it.  He doesn't even have to be a squadmember.  Just, he can be in the Lab, talking more. That's all I want.

[Cerrydd]

Eating on the Normandy: do you think aliens eat with knives, forks and spoons? I can't get the image out of my head of all aliens stuffing their mouths full with food. Except for Garrus of course, he's a gentleman.

[Remaix]

siltsonata wrote...

Remaix wrote...

Yeah, it only happens if you don't romance anyone. So, if you get this, you won't get the romantic advice. Which made me sad.

No, if you had more than one Mordin sex talk per game Shep's head would just explode from sheer awesome.

God, I love Mordin.  I cannot even express how much I love the hell out of Professor Mordin Goddamn Solus.  If he isn't in ME3, I just...I'm going to throw a ****fit that they'll hear all the way in Australia. I mean it.  He doesn't even have to be a squadmember.  Just, he can be in the Lab, talking more. That's all I want.

Same here. If Mordin isn't in ME3, I might hurt someone. Gah. Mordin is my favorite character in any video game I've ever played. Really.

Really, there's a few characters I must have in ME3, or I'll be very upset: Mordin, Garrus (OF COURSE! XD), Legion and Tali. Thane too, if possible...

[Remaix]

Cerrydd wrote...

Eating on the Normandy: do you think aliens eat with knives, forks and spoons? I can't get the image out of my head of all aliens stuffing their mouths full with food. Except for Garrus of course, he's a gentleman.

I can't imagine Thane eating like that either! He's just as much a gentleman. Tali eats... like... quarians eat. Grunt probably just shoves it in his mouth.