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[Minardii]

Thanks Collider! I was missing the /.



Yeah, I'd like there to at least be a few happy endings. It seems that now-a-days, the super dark almost-everyone-loses endings are becoming popular (Gritty stuff?). I get a little tired of seeing everything become grimdark sometimes, so a nice happy ending would be just dandy!



Yeah, having a "You screwed up" ending would also be fine, I just hope that wouldn't be super easy to get .

[Collider]

It's simply the best way to go. Like Minardii said, it shouldn't be rocket science to get the best ending. I didn't go through 2 games just to get a horrible ending because of something easily missed.

[Minardii]

Hah, yes. "HOPE YOU didn't choose to release the Rachni, and keep the cure data, or you're TOAST GUYS. Replay inc!"



It would also be interesting that your chances of getting a poorer ending would rise slightly with the less people you saved you saved in ME2... perhaps.

[silentstephi]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I disagree with Mordin and the Genophage. I don't know I just feel like it's terribly wrong, it's the Salarians' fault that the Krogan became violent. 

No.  It's not.
The Krogan are violent.  They were already in a nuclear winter before the Salarians even made contact.
Granted, the salarians didn't help by giving the pyromaniac a flame thrower and pointing them at a bunch of aliens covered in kerosine...
But yea.  It's a case of the Salarians didn't do their projections right the first time.  But they were in the proverbiale rock and hard place.

Hrm... needs more Garrus...


I cannot get enough of that new armor/that dress!

[Collider]

See, I killed the Rachni Queen and destroyed the genophage cure. And Ashley killed Wrex. I'd hate to be forced into a deplorable ending because of it. Realistically, they aren't going to **** over new player for ME3 though. In ME2 new Shepards tended to have people killed in order to get rid of the references new players wouldn't understand.

[Kotori Ky]

I was torn with Mordin's dialogue choices. I mean, morally I was outraged at the genophage... until he explained it. Then I wanted to shake him and say "JUST FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT DOESN'T LEAVE PILES OF STILLBORN BABIES THEN!" ....that's what gets me the most. I mean, how can you not feel for the Krogan when they say "You have NO idea, you don't see the piles of children!" Just.... dude, find a different way! D:



And the Krogan were always violent. But if they had advanced on their own they might have worked it out before hitting space. Who knows. No one really does... they can just guess. Mordin says so. I have never let him kill the little newt though... as much as I wanted to let Garrus beat on him like he did Harkin a bit... but even then, I just felt bad for the little twit. Mordin is a stronger character for facing what he did and not turning away. It looks like the same situation broke his student.



I have always rewritten the Geth, too. Because I think that they would be a really good ally against the Reapers in Game 3. I try to buff up all of the races. I keep the cure, tell the Quarians not to go to war, and rewrite the Geth. Oh, and the Rachni Queen loves me. I'm hoping this means I have some hefty allies to call upon in Game 3 if it comes to that. (That and I just would pick those options anyway. Drat my Paragon-y goodie-two-shoes preferences.)



I think there will be different endings for ME3. And I really hope that BW doesn't pull a DA:O where even the 'good' ending kind of sucks. Just let us have something GOOD without spoiling it. ;_; After three games we deserve that much. Right? Right.

[Collider]

They better give us a good ending, Kotori. And you're right, the fact that's three games and not one is important. Just imagine if at the end of the original Star Wars trilogy, Luke/Han/Leia died. Most people wouldn't like that an ounce. If you are prepared enough in ME3, you should get a happy ending.

[Minardii]

Well, I sort of hope they require at least a me2 save for ME3.. If you're joining a trilogy that late in the game, well.. You wouldn't have a foggy idea (Unless you read up on everything), and even then they'd have to possibly re-explain things for the newcomers.

And Colli! You're so bad! (haha) I didn't want to lose anyone I could avoid, so pulled out of that Wrex situation with him alive. I always urge the Quarians not to go to war, because at this point it would be senseless. Surely there is another way to go about this? They just wouldn't be able to handle a war against the Geth, and now with Legion on the scene..

I've only played through ME1 once, but I spared the Queen too. Maybe they will use their second chance for the best.. Taking a chance there, but I believed her.

Edit: Yeah, that dress is fun times! Also, I got the comments from kasumi about Jacob.. Her "mmmm" sounds more like a  "mmh., but possibly just because that's how the VA did it. "I wonder if he's into Japanese girls with a penchance for Kleptomania?"

Haha.

Modifié par Minardii, 09 avril 2010 - 04:00 .

[enormousmoonboots]

silentstephi wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I disagree with Mordin and the Genophage. I don't know I just feel like it's terribly wrong, it's the Salarians' fault that the Krogan became violent. 

No.  It's not.
The Krogan are violent.  They were already in a nuclear winter before the Salarians even made contact.
Granted, the salarians didn't help by giving the pyromaniac a flame thrower and pointing them at a bunch of aliens covered in kerosine...
But yea.  It's a case of the Salarians didn't do their projections right the first time.  But they were in the proverbiale rock and hard place.

It's a damn mess all around. My own opinion is that it was incredibly irresponsible of the salarians, but nobody came out of that looking pretty.

I know we're a bit past the self-googling by now, but searching up my forum name brings up one of the inspirations for it. This pleases me.

[kglaser]

OK how did BioWare manage to improve the facial rendering system so much in ME2?? I mean the animations for peoples' facial expressions are phenomenal.



It's a testiment to their talent that you can tell *exactly* what the turian facial expressions mean: amusement, annoyance, anger, wistfulness. how did they do that!?!?

[silentstephi]

OK, I'm about to go a bit off topic here, but I'll make up for it Garrus goodness, I promise.



Krogans. Breed like rabbits, live for a thousand years easy. Their culture before the Salarians came was one that was based on hundreds of little children being born and them fighting each other for the resources they have available.

Their homeworld is a nuclear waste land. BEFORE Salarian intervention.

They've now been uplifted, they've tasted the opportunity of more resources and they spread accordingly. It's what they do.

The Genophage is forcing a cultural re-write. Wrex realizes this. Wrex sees the writing on the wall. He's trying to bring the krogan out of their self imposed Neanderthals with Nukes stage into something more in line with the rest of the Galaxy. He knows that's the only way they're going to survive.

The past is done. If they don't adapt, they just might end up the next Rachni (I know, that's gross speculation on my part.)



The thing that bugs me though... I'm wondering if the writers are putting to much of a human spin on this...

Think about it. Hundreds of babies born to one krogan female over the course of her thousand some odd year life time. Maybe even thousands of babies. Do they even have the same type of connection to their children humans do? Did they? Are they adapting to that kind of change now that only a few survive?



Crap, now I'm going to have to look up more of the wikis.

Suffice to say, I'm all for the past is done, but I almost feel that if you "cure" the genophage, the krogan will have gained nothing.



Ok, as for that promised copious amounts of Garrus make up for being OT...

[Splinter Cell 108]

silentstephi wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I disagree with Mordin and the Genophage. I don't know I just feel like it's terribly wrong, it's the Salarians' fault that the Krogan became violent. 

No.  It's not.
The Krogan are violent.  They were already in a nuclear winter before the Salarians even made contact.
Granted, the salarians didn't help by giving the pyromaniac a flame thrower and pointing them at a bunch of aliens covered in kerosine...
But yea.  It's a case of the Salarians didn't do their projections right the first time.  But they were in the proverbiale rock and hard place.

I meant it was their fault that they became violent on the galactic scale. They still shouldn't have become involved, sooner or later the Krogan would have to figure out that blowing their world up wasn't going to do anything. They'd have evolved or they would have been destined to die. Just imagine what would've happened if Europe would have had nuclear weapons during 1600-1800. The world would be a smoking crater by now with all the wars that went on in there.

As for curing it, like I said until they become a united government, that cure is never going to get to them. That's the way the Krogan defeated the Rachni and that's the way they will have to be like or they'll doom themselves to extinction.

Modifié par Splinter Cell 108, 09 avril 2010 - 04:05 .

[Cerrydd]

Minardii wrote...

Well, I sort of hope they require at least a me2 save for ME3.. If you're joining a trilogy that late in the game, well.. You wouldn't have a foggy idea (Unless you read up on everything), and even then they'd have to possibly re-explain things for the newcomers.

And Colli! You're so bad! (haha) I didn't want to lose anyone I could avoid, so pulled out of that Wrex situation with him alive. I always urge the Quarians not to go to war, because at this point it would be senseless. Surely there is another way to go about this? They just wouldn't be able to handle a war against the Geth, and now with Legion on the scene..

I've only played through ME1 once, but I spared the Queen too. maybe they will use their second chance for the best.. Taking a chance there, but I believed her.

Skipping ME1 and 2 and playing number 3 is weird. I'm not going to read the last part of a trilogy and complain I don't understand what happened.

I released the Rachni queen, saved Wrex (of course ^^), told Mordin to help the krogan, told the quarians not to go to war and rewrote the geth. I want every one of them back in ME3, whether it's on the good side or the bad side. The message delivered by the asari on Illium from the Rachni queen sounded promising, so I'm counting on her support. I really can't wait for ME3 to come... aaargh.

Also, Garrus.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Since we're putting our choices here I'm going to do the same. Well in ME1 I saved the queen, the colonists and Zhu's Hope itself, the Council and I didn't kill Wrex the best Krogan ever. As for ME2 I didn't let Garrus shoot Sidonis, kept the Cure, told the Quarians not to go to war, rewrote the Geth, "helped" Conrad, got rid of Morinth and destroyed the Collector base. Yes I'm 100% Paragon. I don't like Renegades especially since being 100% Renegade means being bad to your crew.

[silentstephi]

All my Shep's decisions are here. About half way down the page.



Why isn't ME 3 here yet? /sigh

[Faerlyte]

Minardii wrote...

Well, I sort of hope they require at least a me2 save for ME3.. If you're joining a trilogy that late in the game, well.. You wouldn't have a foggy idea (Unless you read up on everything), and even then they'd have to possibly re-explain things for the newcomers.

That would be like marketing suicide though. No game developer would ever do that because, regardless of whether it's the third in a trilogy, there are still people out there who will go out and buy the third game cold turkey without ever having played the previous two. There's no way their going to miss out on making that extra cut of money from all the newcomers, and there will be some.

For example: I was standing in line at the midnight release for ME2, and the kid in front of me with his bodies was asked by one of said buddies what Mass Effect 2 was about, to which he answered..."I don't know, but it looks cool..." *Insert face-plam*

Kids these days...psshhh...

[Minardii]

Yyyyeaah, I want ME3 already, too .
Some of the renegade options aren't too bad, but I destroy the collector base everytime. I am about half and half now on destroying/rewriting the geth.

Edit: Ah, perhaps, perhaps. Just how much of the story would they have to recap in order to catch everyone up? At least requiring one of the two previous games shouldn't be too bad, but I don't know.. That, or they don't bother to try and recap much at all outside of the codexes.

Modifié par Minardii, 09 avril 2010 - 04:36 .

[Re_spawNZ7]

Hi Guys

I'm new to the forum and to ME. Played ME2...got addicted and had to buy ME. I know, I know, wrong way round, but I didn't know how fantastic it was going to be.

And then there is Garrus. It is so wonderful to find there are a bunch of people out there that are as mad about him as I am!

And I don't want to romance anyone in ME1 because I can't choose him lol Am I the only one who feels that way? You can tell me if that is weird. Guys...you'd tell me, right? lol

[Cerrydd]

silentstephi wrote...

All my Shep's decisions are here. About half way down the page.

That is a ****load of text. I think it's fun to fill in, though. Just to get to know my own Shep better.

[kglaser]

Rebe70 wrote...

Hi Guys
I'm new to the forum and to ME. Played ME2...got addicted and had to buy ME. I know, I know, wrong way round, but I didn't know how fantastic it was going to be.
And then there is Garrus. It is so wonderful to find there are a bunch of people out there that are as mad about him as I am!
And I don't want to romance anyone in ME1 because I can't choose him lol Am I the only one who feels that way? You can tell me if that is weird. Guys...you'd tell me, right? lol

Welcome!!
I'm glad you are playing both, regardless...you can always replay ME2 again, after playing 1.
And I always felt kinda weird, professing my Garrus love on the old BioWare message board...here, now that the love is much more apparent, it is easier
It is not weird...if saving yourself for Garrus is wrong, I don't wanna be right

[MarginalBeast]

Rebe70 wrote...
And I don't want to romance anyone in ME1 because I can't choose him lol Am I the only one who feels that way? You can tell me if that is weird. Guys...you'd tell me, right? lol

Of course that isn't weird.

[enormousmoonboots]

Rebe70 wrote...

Hi Guys
I'm new to the forum and to ME. Played ME2...got addicted and had to buy ME. I know, I know, wrong way round, but I didn't know how fantastic it was going to be.
And then there is Garrus. It is so wonderful to find there are a bunch of people out there that are as mad about him as I am!
And I don't want to romance anyone in ME1 because I can't choose him lol Am I the only one who feels that way? You can tell me if that is weird. Guys...you'd tell me, right? lol

I ran through the first game three times to hit level 60, so...I did it too.

[silentstephi]

Cerrydd wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

All my Shep's decisions are here. About half way down the page.

That is a ****load of text. I think it's fun to fill in, though. Just to get to know my own Shep better.

Yes, yes it is.  But it was a lot of fun to do.  It took the better part of a day to finish too.  (And some pondering overnight.)

Also:



No one's watching?  What is he doing....?

ETA:  Welcome Rebe70!  No, it's not weird to go back.  It's much awesome.
And so is Garrus.

Modifié par silentstephi, 09 avril 2010 - 04:47 .

[Minardii]

Hey Rebe! Nah, not wrong at all! Have fun dodging the ninjaromances though! Mwahahaha.

Edit: Aghblah Steph, I almost spat out my drink when I saw that last photo!
"Hhhmmmm..."

Modifié par Minardii, 09 avril 2010 - 04:48 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

Rebe70 wrote...

Hi Guys
I'm new to the forum and to ME. Played ME2...got addicted and had to buy ME. I know, I know, wrong way round, but I didn't know how fantastic it was going to be.
And then there is Garrus. It is so wonderful to find there are a bunch of people out there that are as mad about him as I am!
And I don't want to romance anyone in ME1 because I can't choose him lol Am I the only one who feels that way? You can tell me if that is weird. Guys...you'd tell me, right? lol

Well I romanced spmeone in ME1 since I never thought of Garrus as a romance option or that they were never going to make him an option.Now I'm paying for it, I cheated on him with Garrus using my first female Shepard. Of course it'll be interesting to see what happens in ME3 with that mess but I still feel bad about it. I've never disliked that person. So now to avoid that I made another female Shepard in ME1 and didn't romance anyone. I can't say who I romanced in ME1 unless you know who's romanceable in ME1. However you can romance someone in ME1 and still romance Garrus in ME2 but that's cheating so yeah.