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[janeym27]

Chimervera wrote...

Flammie wrote...

Oh dear lord I've finally found a video of the turian dancing in Thane's loyalty mission

Terrible... but I can't stop laughing.

That is just....I can't stop laughing either!

Define 'dance'? lol

I know I posted this but a few pages ago, but while we're on Turian dancing... get funky, Garrus!

I made the mistake of re-reading the slo-mo wound finding camera skit at work. Got some odd looks from trying to contain my laughter.

[Garrus is Hot]

janeym27 wrote...

Chimervera wrote...

Flammie wrote...

Oh dear lord I've finally found a video of the turian dancing in Thane's loyalty mission

Terrible... but I can't stop laughing.

That is just....I can't stop laughing either!

Define 'dance'? lol

I know I posted this but a few pages ago, but while we're on Turian dancing... get funky, Garrus!

I made the mistake of re-reading the slo-mo wound finding camera skit at work. Got some odd looks from trying to contain my laughter.

I lol'd at both videos

[kglaser]

Xsause wrote...

Flammie wrote...

I just scan through the subtitles, so I know the line, so I can actually hear the line clearer, and if I didn't catch anything, I quickly go through the subtitle line again to remind me. I don't just focus on the subtitle line.

Yeah, I do the same. Makes it easier to understand what some characters are saying, especially when I'm talking to Mordin. I mean, I get some of that guy's babble, but if I'd turn the subtitles off...

I thought it was funny when playing KOTOR that the game told me I could turn off the subtitles "for a more cinematic experience"--and then the game was full of Wookiees and all these other races you could never understand without subtitles. LOL

[Kim Shepard]

@Chimervera: Thanks for posting those. The turian art looks kind of cool. I think my Shepard would want to play with the art more than stare at it though. (That statue behind the turian art in the first picture reminds me of Dragon Age... xD)

Flammie wrote...

Oh dear lord I've finally found a video of the turian dancing in Thane's loyalty mission

Terrible... but I can't stop laughing.

I've wanted to see a dancing turian since ME1. Awesome video, I never would have noticed that in-game.

[Cerrydd]

I always play with subtitles, unless I plan to make screenshots. I'm used to watching movies with subtitles so it doesn't bother me at all, even though I've played the game enough to remember every line...



Garruuus

[Xsause]

Needs moar Garrus lovin'!

So here are some pics of the romance scene with my Shepard (just so you know what she looks like):



Garrus: 



The half-lidded eyes say it all.



Shepard: Give me a huuuuuuuuuuuuug!



This is my desktop wallpaper.  



Garrus is distracted by the boobies.
Garrus: Hey, what are those...things you have? *prod*  

Modifié par Xsause, 11 avril 2010 - 07:25 .

[Nyx]

Briallen wrote...

Mostly, though, I was just trying to say how bemused I was by people who actually seem to equate "Garrus and Shepard trust and respect each other" with "Garrus and Shepard don't actually have romantic feelings for each other and thus will never actually have a real relationship." But yeah, never mind.

I don't agree with those people (in other words, MarginalBeast is right about all the ME relationships going in for the long-term), but I think I see their point. A great frienship doesn't necessarily translate into a good romance, even if you have what it takes to keep it going --- like how Kasumi observes that Gabby & Ken would make a lovely couple, but neither would be willing to commit. While it is hard to deny that Garrus respects Shepard, and vice-versa, we haven't seen any overt displays of affection or commitment until the last scene. Their relationship mostly focuses on the transition from companions to lovers, ending with a major question-mark for the audience.

Even within the Tali storyline -- which is very similar to Garrus' ---, she makes it loud and clear she's interested in that way, and Tali becomes visably diappointed if Shepard refuses her as a lover. Whereas with Garrus, it's more like sharing a sexual encounter with a friend, until he realizes that he is taking this situation far more seriously than what someone looking to "blow off steam" would. (In fact, poor Garrus is adding steam to the equation.)  

Anyway,  I'm personally fine with the slower pace because I don't like rushing through romances (sorry, Thane!), and I happen to be slightly thankful the players couldn't assert their affections on Garrus in ME1. It was nice change in speed where you have to focus on exploring and developing your friendship with the Turian before saying anything. So by the time Shepard expresses her interest in Garrus, they already know each other as individuals.

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Edit:

@ Xsause: [Second picture] I always love that part.

Modifié par Nyx.Aeterna, 11 avril 2010 - 06:40 .

[janeym27]

Nyx.Aeterna wrote...

. Whereas with Garrus, it's more like
sharing a sexual encounter with a friend, until he realizes that
he is taking this situation far more seriously than what someone
looking to "blow off steam" would. (In fact, poor Garrus is
adding steam to the equation.) [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie] 

That gave me a hilarious mental image. lol. Poor Gar - he overthinks everything!
(I agree with most of what you said, btw.)

@Xsause: I am sorely tempted to get ME2 and attempt to play it on my crappy PC, just so I can have shots like those. Sadly, an xbox + a crappy TV screen =
being about the best I can do. Jelous! lol


Edit: what is up with my formatting?

Modifié par janeym27, 11 avril 2010 - 06:49 .

[Xsause]

Two more shots of Garrus lovin':



Shepard: Garrus, can I sit in your lap for a minute?

Garrus: I don't know, Shep-

*Shepard sits down in his lap*

Garrus: Umm...

Shepard: Aren't we the cutest couple!?

Garrus: If you say so.



Shepard: Oh Garrus, you're such a pimp!

Garrus: I know, honey. I know.

[janeym27]

Nice use of the sexy ShepDress.



Also, your Garrus looks entirely less awkward tha my Garrus when Shep sits on his lap. Kudos! lol

[Flammie]

Hope you're havin' fun, Cerrydd. Hope siltsonata's having fun, too. Kinda miss them both.

Gotta love dancing turians.

Yeah, I'm glad that Garrus isn't romanceable in ME1 for the same reasons, and you can still get a good lot of action out of him, anyway. Just finished Virmire, so I'm nearly done, actually. All that's left is being grounded, Ilos, the Citadel siege and the epilogue, and I'll be able to get back to ME2 and get me some Garrus lovin'. Thinking about who to save actually made me think a lot more than I expected, though.

I absolutely love how happy and peaceful Garrus looks in the cuddle shots, really feels good. The idea of Shepard asking Garrus if she can sit on his lap, and then jumping on it anyway's quite funny, too. Has anybody noticed Shepard trying to grasp onto Garrus's collar for support with her other hand?

Shepard: Woahwoa I'm falling, Garrus!

*Grabs onto his collar*

Garrus: Ow ow ow ow ow

Shepard: Help me!

Garrus: Ican'tyou'reholdingontootight! It hurts! OW!

Shepard: Eek!

*Shepard falls off Garrus's lap, and drags him with her, making her fall backwards onto the couch, Garrus on top of her. Shepard still holding onto Garrus's arm and collar, Garrus's hands wrapped around her. Extremely suggestive*

Shepard: ...If somebody just walked in right now, this would be awkward as hell.

*Miranda walks in*

Miranda: Shepard, I... oh.

I also really like the running of the hand along the scar, though, I know it's difficult to do, it seems more as if Shepard's just scratching her fingers along his face rather than a sort of full-hand stroke.

Modifié par Flammie, 11 avril 2010 - 07:38 .

[Xsause]

Flammie wrote...


Shepard: Woahwoa I'm falling, Garrus!

*Grabs onto his collar*

Garrus: Ow ow ow ow ow

Shepard: Help me!

Garrus: Ican'tyou'reholdingontootight! It hurts! OW!

Shepard: Eek!

*Shepard falls off Garrus's lap, and drags him with her, making her fall backwards onto the couch, Garrus on top of her. Shepard still holding onto Garrus's arm and collar, Garrus's hands wrapped around her. Extremely suggestive*

Shepard: ...If somebody just walked in right now, this would be awkward as hell.

*Miranda walks in*

Miranda: Shepard, I... oh.

Or if Mordin walked in:

Mordin: Shepard, have - oh! Seem to have interrupted an intimate moment. Unfortunate circumstances. Will take my leave now. Don't ingest.

*Mordin turns around and walks out of the door*

Shepard: Thank God that went well. Who knows, it could have been really embarassing.

*Meanwhile, in Zaeed's room, everyone is laughing their head off.*

Miranda: That was...umm...

Kelly: ...great! Now I've got inspiration for a new fanfic!

Jacob: Damn cuttle-bone stole my priiize!

[janeym27]

Hey - it's apparently Shep's Birthday (in the future). Clearly, she's going to go out on the town with Officer Vakarian. How is your Shep celebrating?



I'm thinking, maybe try convince Gar to get her into Palaven on the Citadel, drinking copious amounts of booze, then back to the Normandy for full contact sparring, and awkward sofa sitting. Maybe they'll buy a celebration fish! XD

[Flammie]

Yay, Shepard, it's your birthday! You're -144, now! Under 150 years before you're born! You must be excited!

*cough* sorry, had to do that. Well, I have no idea how Shepard and Garrus's ideal birthday date would go. I would definitely like it to just be the two of them, with no interference from the other crew members. Maybe they'll go out for a drink in a Citadel club, before going to the Presidium, if it's ever dark. Try hiding, and sitting together on the grass. Maybe a kiss, a hug, some affectionate cuddling. Oh, and not in armour, some nice, sharp looking casuals.

@Xsause

Miranda: Kasumi isn't here, I wonder where she is...

Shepard: ...Do you hear something?

Kasumi: *giggle*

Garrus: ...No, I don't.

Shepard: Ah, must have been my imagination.

*Both get up*

Shepard: Why don't we relieve some stress?

Kasumi: *giggle*

*Garrus looks in Kasumi's direction, frowns, and then turns back to Shepard*

Garrus: I'd... I'd like that.

Shepard: Well, we've done it once before, so at least we know how it's going to work.

Garrus: Yes... and this time we're more experienced.

Kasumi: *giggle*

Shepard: Take me, Garrus.

Garrus: Yeah... definitely.

*They start undressing each other*

Kasumi: *giggle*

*Take it to the bed*

Kasumi: *giggle* Oh. No. NO! NO! THE HORROR! ARGH!!! MY EYES!!!

*Shepard and Garrus groaning too loud to hear her*

Kasumi: STOP IT! STOP IT! STOP IT! STOP IT!

Shepard: *Screaming out in groans*

Garrus: *Roaring in pleasure*

Kasumi: ARARGAHGAHGHHAGHGHAGHHGAHGAGHAHGHAHGAHGHAHGAH!!!!!!!!!

Modifié par Flammie, 11 avril 2010 - 08:04 .

[MarginalBeast]

Xsause wrote...

Or if Mordin walked in:

Mordin: Shepard, have - oh! Seem to have interrupted an intimate moment. Unfortunate circumstances. Will take my leave now. Don't ingest.

I love how he just throws that out at the very end.

[MarginalBeast]

Nyx.Aeterna wrote...

Their relationship mostly focuses on the transition from companions to lovers, ending with a major question-mark for the audience.

Even within the Tali storyline -- which is very similar to Garrus' ---, she makes it loud and clear she's interested in that way, and Tali becomes visably diappointed if Shepard refuses her as a lover. Whereas with Garrus, it's more like sharing a sexual encounter with a friend, until he realizes that he is taking this situation far more seriously than what someone looking to "blow off steam" would. (In fact, poor Garrus is adding steam to the equation.)

I see where you're coming from (and before I probably would have agreed with you) but if you break up with him and talk to Kasumi, she makes it sound like you're ending an actual relationship. "Sorry to hear about you and Garrus", You both deserve to be happy", etc. Otherwise, if it was just sex with a friend, why would she even care?

So, I don't know. Garrus' romance is a bit confusing. But at least what matters is that in the end I think things are pretty clear.

[Collider]

What is Nyx even saying? Maybe I am missing the context.

[Kim Shepard]

It would be awesome to take screenshots, make youtube videos, and actually get the DLC... but I seriously doubt the PC game will work for me. xD I would probably fail the gameplay end of it with PC controls too.



@janeym27: I forgot it was Shepard's birthday today. I'll have to play some ME2 later and invite Garrus up to Shepard's cabin for a birthday hug.

[janeym27]

MarginalBeast wrote...

Nyx.Aeterna wrote...

Their relationship mostly focuses on the transition from companions to lovers, ending with a major question-mark for the audience.

Even within the Tali storyline -- which is very similar to Garrus' ---, she makes it loud and clear she's interested in that way, and Tali becomes visably diappointed if Shepard refuses her as a lover. Whereas with Garrus, it's more like sharing a sexual encounter with a friend, until he realizes that he is taking this situation far more seriously than what someone looking to "blow off steam" would. (In fact, poor Garrus is adding steam to the equation.)

I see where you're coming from (and before I probably would have agreed with you) but if you break up with him and talk to Kasumi, she makes it sound like you're ending an actual relationship. "Sorry to hear about you and Garrus", You both deserve to be happy", etc. Otherwise, if it was just sex with a friend, why would she even care?

So, I don't know. Garrus' romance is a bit confusing. But at least what matters is that in the end I think things are pretty clear.

I agree - I think in the beginning it's a very close friendship which they want to introduce benefits into as a stress release, but once that's out there, and they both think about it, they realise how much they really do care for one another, and basically think "Why the hell not?"By the time Garrus makes his way up to FemShep's cabin, they've already gone past a line. Either they'll make the physical relationship work, or they won't, but if they don't try, they'll regret it and the relationship has changed. I think Garrus goes through a process of reassessing his feelings for Shepard, and she goes from Commander and friend whom he never looked at 'in that way', to trusted friend and stess release, to centre of his universe. So much of that is wordless, though. I don't think Garrus would know how to put it into words. He tries in that final scene, and Shepard has to stop him: she already knows. I think they just get each other like that.

[Nyx]

MarginalBeast wrote...

Nyx.Aeterna wrote...

Their relationship mostly focuses on the transition from companions to lovers, ending with a major question-mark for the audience.

Even within the Tali storyline -- which is very similar to Garrus' ---, she makes it loud and clear she's interested in that way, and Tali becomes visably diappointed if Shepard refuses her as a lover. Whereas with Garrus, it's more like sharing a sexual encounter with a friend, until he realizes that he is taking this situation far more seriously than what someone looking to "blow off steam" would. (In fact, poor Garrus is adding steam to the equation.)

I see where you're coming from (and before I probably would have agreed with you) but if you break up with him and talk to Kasumi, she makes it sound like you're ending an actual relationship. "Sorry to hear about you and Garrus", You both deserve to be happy", etc. Otherwise, if it was just sex with a friend, why would she even care?

So, I don't know. Garrus' romance is a bit confusing. But at least what matters is that in the end I think things are pretty clear.

Yeah, everything before the last scene was vague. For instance, a person could regard Kasumi's comment as an unfortunate dent in their friendship. In real-life, sexual encounters do affect the platonic bond between friends if it goes badly.  Someone ends up being more interested in the other, and they haven't had the time to work off that extra intrigue (which may turn into bitterness and resentment). It's sort of like why there is much more to loose in a "friends with benfits" scenario than a one-night stand with a stranger.

janeym27 wrote...

By the time Garrus makes his way up to FemShep's cabin, they've already gone past a line. Either they'll make the physical relationship work, or they won't, but if they don't try, they'll regret it and the relationship has changed.

+ 1. Definitely agree.

Collider wrote...

What is Nyx even saying? Maybe I am missing the context.

Ah, it does sound strange out of context. They're mostly thoughts about the nature of Garrus/Shepard's relationship --- with a lot of comparisons and examples.

Modifié par Nyx.Aeterna, 11 avril 2010 - 08:51 .

[Flammie]

I guess there's a lot more to lose when two friends get together, and when it goes wrong, it can really affect both parties. Joey and Rachel come to mind, there, and it was lucky that they managed not to lose everything... but if it goes right, then it can be a lot better than just with a stranger, because there're already friendships, links and ties there. Monica and Chandler, I guess. So yeah, there's a lot more to lose than just a fling with a stranger, but there can be a lot more to gain with two friends. (I swear to whatever I believe in, DO NOT bring Jacob into that)

janeym27 wrote...

I agree - I think in the beginning it's a very close friendship which they want to introduce benefits into as a stress release, but once that's out there, and they both think about it, they realise how much they really do care for one another, and basically think "Why the hell not?"By the time Garrus makes his way up to FemShep's cabin, they've already gone past a line. Either they'll make the physical relationship work, or they won't, but if they don't try, they'll regret it and the relationship has changed. I think Garrus goes through a process of reassessing his feelings for Shepard, and she goes from Commander and friend whom he never looked at 'in that way', to trusted friend and stess release, to centre of his universe. So much of that is wordless, though. I don't think Garrus would know how to put it into words. He tries in that final scene, and Shepard has to stop him: she already knows. I think they just get each other like that.

This. Excellent wording.

They started off as just two people in a militant relationship, then they start to develop a friendship as they work together. Even in death, it was still a bond that remained, and when Shepard came back to life, the relationships and links were still there.

When Shepard brings it up, it's just two friends, doing each other a favour and relieving stress for each other, when there's nobody else suitable for it. Seeing it as just helping each other out, he agrees, if they can make it work, then sure, they can.

But, just the very idea of relieving stress brings thoughts to Garrus, at least, that he does care for Shepard, and it suddenly seems a lot more of a big deal than just friends doing each other a favour. He starts to feel nervous about it, about doing it with someone that he trusts. He doesn't want to mess it up, and he realises that it can really be something more, that he just didn't see when he first saw his commander. It isn't about relieving stress, it isn't about everything out there. It was about them.

Then, Garrus attempts to hide his deep feelings, unsure if Shepard shares these thoughts, unsure if she realises he feels so much more about this than just friends. He tries to dress up, he brings alcohol, and tries to bring suitable music. He tries to sweet talk Shepard. But then it all goes wrong and crashing down, and he finally breaks down, and admits it to the best of his ability. So much has gone wrong, and just for once, he wants something to go right in his life, and suddenly, he realises Shepard understands. She touches his vulnerable side, the scar in his life, and it doesn't hurt him, he doesn't recoil. He realises that this is right. And they share physical contact.


I know this is basically a rewording of the romance and janeym27's words, but this is my interpretation of it, if anybody really cares.

...This really is thought provoking.

Modifié par Flammie, 11 avril 2010 - 08:55 .

[kglaser]

Xsause wrote...

Hey, your Shepard looks exactly like mine!!  Which makes seeing those screenies even better
Also, I never noticed that about his eyes before you pointed it out right there...that's so cool
Thanks for posting!

[epoch_]

[Nyx]

Flammie wrote...

I guess there's a lot more to lose when two friends get together, and when it goes wrong, it can really affect both parties. Joey and Rachel come to mind, there, and it was lucky that they managed not to lose everything... but if it goes right, then it can be a lot better than just with a stranger, because there're already friendships, links and ties there. Monica and Chandler, I guess. So yeah, there's a lot more to lose than just a fling with a stranger, but there can be a lot more to gain with two friends.

Oh, certainly. Mother Nature really knows how to price the goods: the final Collector-Base fight (win or loose all); the Lazarus project; the fate of the entire sentient race on the hands of "twenty-five mutineers" in ME1; etc. Usually, you can't hit the jackpot if you play it safe. Eliminating risks can also mean loosing out on opportunities.

Flammie wrote...

I know this is basically a rewording of the romance and janeym27's words, but this is my interpretation of it, if anybody really cares.

...This really is thought provoking.

Lol, actually, mine is about the same - minus some details.

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*Edit: You're awesome, Epoch. Can't believe you made that into an avatar!

Modifié par Nyx.Aeterna, 11 avril 2010 - 09:07 .