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Garrus Love and Adoration v.2


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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I actually really liked Ash. I liked her more than Tali in the first one. If she hadn't been so mean to my Shep on Horizon, and had come along with to remind me how much I like her, I'd probably have liked her more than Tali in ME2. Tali's like a little sister/fangirl to my FemShep, whereas Ash is totally her best gal pal. They really get each other in a way a lot of the ME2 chicks just don't get FemShep, and really don't try to.

I didn't like Ashley or Liara the first few times I played through ME1.  When I was in that harcore playplayplay mode right before ME2 came out, I warmed up to both of them just a little bit, to the point where I no longer hated them with a passion, and I was just neutral.

It was actually the encounter on Horizon that pushed me over into "All right, I like you. In fact I like you a lot." territory with Ash.  Like I've mentioned before, I liked the backbone the human survivors showed there.  I also liked the darker turn that Liara took, so this last playthrough of ME1 that I just finished was simultaneously the best and worst one I've ever been through: I had a new appreciation for every character knowing what they would become in the next game, and I was bogged down by the gameplay and little technical issues (and the fact that I was trying to romance Kaidan. I managed it, but in the end replayed and saved Ashley so now I have two saves with the Ash one being "canon" for that Shepard in my mind.).

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I wonder what they're planning to do about people who didn't romance anyone in the first game? It's all CONSEQUENCES CONSEQUENCES and ME1 LOVE INTEREST and THREE-ACT STRUCTURE, but I kept a vanilla save in hope for Garrus, which is the one I ported to ME2 (and incidentally, Garrus and Tali happen to fit the three-act structure just as well; friends, romance, lovers by ME3? The other four are SOL, though). I'm seriously considering loading my Kaidanmance save, though, just for DELICIOUS DRAMA. I don't even dislike Kaidan and I want to see him bawwww over it! I-I just like to maximize my content! Same reason I always save the Council! (I can never cheat on Liara, though.)



...does Shep call Garrus's father Papa Vakarian in the game? I feel like I would have fixated on that.



@ SavageLycan--Despite clipping, Garrus rubbing his neck like that is pretty cute! I'm surprised how well that's working out. Does he dance at Flux?

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Gar_Logan wrote...

ACTUALLY!

....sorry. Actually: I think that would be great character development for Kaidan. He's usually laid back. When he was younger and killed the Turian biotic...trainer...guy...(man, I'm a blank on his history now,) he always used to hold back. (Though the Eden Prime thing stopped this, at least Biotically.) If he was serious about Shepard, and she was with Garrus after ME2, the angst would probably build up. Near the end, they could have Kaidan confront Garrus, and fight for Shepard. (Though, it probably wouldn't do any good, it would still show he's grown a quad.) It would be good development for him.


Wow, did not even think of that. That would be a fantastic story direction,  I WOULD LOVE IT, that would be another "Kaidan has personality! I dislike him slightly less!" moment for me.  Probably wouldn't play it (I've given up.  I'll never be able to romance anyone other than Garrus ever again without feeling like I'm going to barf the whole time.) but I'd appreciate it from a spectator sort of view.

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Gar_Logan wrote...
ACTUALLY!

....sorry. Actually: I think that would be great character development for Kaidan. He's usually laid back. When he was younger and killed the Turian biotic...trainer...guy...(man, I'm a blank on his history now,) he always used to hold back. (Though the Eden Prime thing stopped this, at least Biotically.) If he was serious about Shepard, and she was with Garrus after ME2, the angst would probably build up. Near the end, they could have Kaidan confront Garrus, and fight for Shepard. (Though, it probably wouldn't do any good, it would still show he's grown a quad.) It would be good development for him.

This.  I can see FemShep getting a call from Joker with a "Ahhh, Commander, Kaidan and Garrus are having a...disagreement in the main battery (Take pictures!)."  I don't think Kaidan would have a pre-meditated notion of harming Garrus, I just see Shepard being able to draw out these feelings in him & Kaidan needed to at least confront Garrus with his thoughts on the matter...until it escalates.

Of course, in my head Garrus would just take the hit cuz' he's cool like that (and I'm thinking either in the form of a punch or biotic shove).  I don't think it would go beyond a single hit, though, before Kaidan reels himself in and apologizes.

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Tootles FTW wrote...
Of course, in my head Garrus would just take the hit cuz' he's cool like that (and I'm thinking either in the form of a punch or biotic shove).  I don't think it would go beyond a single hit, though, before Kaidan reels himself in and apologizes.


I could see them arguing, and it escalating. Kaidan going overboard, but stopping when Shepard gets there. And then Garrus would punch him out. Just how I see it. Afterwards, Shepard would have to make the choice. (Obviously, everyone here would choose Garrus over Kaidan.) If done right, the scene could be pretty powerful for all three characters. Kaidan would have to move on, Garrus would feel further solidified as Shepard's companion, and Shepard...well, she would probably feel a number of things in regards to the two.

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Gar_Logan wrote...
I could see them arguing, and it escalating. Kaidan going overboard, but stopping when Shepard gets there. And then Garrus would punch him out. Just how I see it. Afterwards, Shepard would have to make the choice. (Obviously, everyone here would choose Garrus over Kaidan.) If done right, the scene could be pretty powerful for all three characters. Kaidan would have to move on, Garrus would feel further solidified as Shepard's companion, and Shepard...well, she would probably feel a number of things in regards to the two.


Oh man though, could you imagine choosing Kaidan?  I'm...I'm pretty sure Garrus wouldn't really ever get over that. He was so insecure in the first place.:(  He'd "respect your decision" and everything, but he'd be crushed, and he probably wouldn't ever let anyone else in for the rest of his life.

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siltsonata wrote...

I didn't like Ashley or Liara the first few times I played through ME1.  When I was in that harcore playplayplay mode right before ME2 came out, I warmed up to both of them just a little bit, to the point where I no longer hated them with a passion, and I was just neutral.

It was actually the encounter on Horizon that pushed me over into "All right, I like you. In fact I like you a lot." territory with Ash.  Like I've mentioned before, I liked the backbone the human survivors showed there.  I also liked the darker turn that Liara took, so this last playthrough of ME1 that I just finished was simultaneously the best and worst one I've ever been through: I had a new appreciation for every character knowing what they would become in the next game, and I was bogged down by the gameplay and little technical issues (and the fact that I was trying to romance Kaidan. I managed it, but in the end replayed and saved Ashley so now I have two saves with the Ash one being "canon" for that Shepard in my mind.).

For me Horizon wasn't so much of a problem with Ash. She's not romantically involved with my Shepard, so it kind of hurt that she wouldn't give her time to explain herself, but Shepard could understand that more than if it had been someone she knew intimately. Plus, Ash has always been a bit of a firecracker, so it made much more sense for her. I still didn't like it though. She should've come with me! :(

Kaidan at Horizon was a lot more annoying to me, partly because it was just kind of out of character for him, but then Kaidan just annoys me in general, so that might be why. :P

enormousmoonboots wrote...

...does Shep call Garrus's father Papa Vakarian in the game? I feel like I would have fixated on that.

No, just a nickname from the boards, as far as I know.

Even if it just turns out to be an argument, I hope we get some kind of conflict. That was my favorite part of having two options in KOTOR2 (yeah yeah, not BioWare, I know), the juicy conflict! If there is an argument, I sure hope Garrus (or any ME2 interest) throws in a 'You abandoned her! I was here for her when you weren't!' sort of thing in there... Saying all the things my FemShep can't say because she's supposed to be Paragon... xD

If they do give us a LI conflict in ME3, I'm going to have to do another Garrus playthrough on my Kaidan-romance Shep, since I made her go with Thane so she wouldn't make Garrus break the bro code. :(

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siltsonata wrote...

Oh man though, could you imagine choosing Kaidan?  I'm...I'm pretty sure Garrus wouldn't really ever get over that. He was so insecure in the first place.:(  He'd "respect your decision" and everything, but he'd be crushed, and he probably wouldn't ever let anyone else in for the rest of his life.


Oh yeah, it would suck big time for him. Garrus needs more friends. At least if that happened then, he'd have sounding board for his frustration. I doubt he'd want to speak with Shepard if she chose Kaidan over him, at least for a while. From a story standpoint, it'd be excellent drama. It'd just be...really hard to watch the character go through that. Heck, it'd be hard to watch Kaidan go through it. One of them has to lose. Which is why it'd be perfect in ME3. Consequences.

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Again, I like to pretend that I never had a previous LI. Apparently me giving Liara a listening ear, was a hint that I wanted her. I felt too bad to turn her down, and she became a pity lay. So, yeah that will be awkward.



As for my Virmire choice, it was Ash. Kaidan annoyed me, but Ashley really pissed me off. From the minute I saw her I wanted her dead. I tried telling Anderson we didn't need her. Her close minded views pushed my buttons and her trying to speak and think for me made me want to hit her. Then when my boyfriend let her kill Wrex, I was livid. The way she did it, so cold and unfeeling. I love Wrex so that was it for me. Even Kaidan asked me before he assumed I wanted to kill Wrex. Ashley was anxious to shoot Wrex. I cried when she killed him. To this day if she gets brought up in the household it will lead to a 2 hour rant from me.

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Gar_Logan wrote...
I could see them arguing, and it escalating. Kaidan going overboard, but stopping when Shepard gets there. And then Garrus would punch him out. Just how I see it. Afterwards, Shepard would have to make the choice. (Obviously, everyone here would choose Garrus over Kaidan.) If done right, the scene could be pretty powerful for all three characters. Kaidan would have to move on, Garrus would feel further solidified as Shepard's companion, and Shepard...well, she would probably feel a number of things in regards to the two.

I can't see Garrus hitting Kaidain unless it was in direct defense of Shepard (i.e. Kaidan referred to her as a **** or something).

Though now I am seeing a Garrus/Kaidan stand-off a la the Samara/Morinth showdown (Kaidan all biotic-y and Garrus with his rifle drawn) with a similiar "KILL GARRUS, KILL KAIDAN" option. 
/cue Thane descending from the vents and neck-snapping Kaidan.  Posted Image

I hope that by choosing one over the other you don't shut down dialogues with the rejected LI.  I would like to think that both men are respectful enough of you (and each other) to carry on professionally.  And in this situation I would think Garrus would have more reason than Kaidan to be justifiably upset if FemShep left him...though that thought makes me sad in ways that fictional men should not be able to.  Posted Image 

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I cannot imagine why people would choose kaiden over garrus. Kaiden imo was one of the most annoying excuses for a squadmate in the game. He looks like Michael Jackson with a bad hair day. And yeah, garrus is such a depressing figure. Always putting himself down and blaming himself for everything and always feeling lonely. Thane also counts as this too, pretty much a second Garrus. Exactly the type of squadmates i would try to befriend and put as my wingmans.

I still don't know if i should stick with being best buddies as a male shepard or if i should try to actually have a romance with him with a FemShep  =/.

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Tootles FTW wrote...
I hope that by choosing one over the other you don't shut down dialogues with the rejected LI.  I would like to think that both men are respectful enough of you (and each other) to carry on professionally.  And in this situation I would think Garrus would have more reason than Kaidan to be justifiably upset if FemShep left him...though that thought makes me sad in ways that fictional men should not be able to.  Posted Image 


In a perfect world, the rejected one would get different dialogues....but then time constraints and money come into play. >.> 

To add, I guess Garrus would punch Kaidan out if say...Shepard approached and attempted to pull him off and he accidently hit her. Although that seems a little far too cliche for my tastes. Which is why I'd prefer Garrus to just punch him regardless. :P

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...
Even if it just turns out to be an argument, I hope we get some kind of conflict. That was my favorite part of having two options in KOTOR2 (yeah yeah, not BioWare, I know), the juicy conflict! If there is an argument, I sure hope Garrus (or any ME2 interest) throws in a 'You abandoned her! I was here for her when you weren't!' sort of thing in there... Saying all the things my FemShep can't say because she's supposed to be Paragon... xD

This is why I always bring Garrus with me to Horizon - I always Posted Image a little inside when he defends me against Kaidan's onslaught of derpy-ness.

(not to say that I didn't find Kaidan's unreasonable anger strangely sexy...ahem...GARRUS FORUM! GARRUS FORUM!  Shoo, thoughts!)

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Gar_Logan wrote...

I could see them arguing, and it escalating. Kaidan going overboard, but stopping when Shepard gets there. And then Garrus would punch him out. Just how I see it. Afterwards, Shepard would have to make the choice. (Obviously, everyone here would choose Garrus over Kaidan.) If done right, the scene could be pretty powerful for all three characters. Kaidan would have to move on, Garrus would feel further solidified as Shepard's companion, and Shepard...well, she would probably feel a number of things in regards to the two.

As much as I'd like to see him be all cool about it, Garrus does have a short temper when his emotions are involved.. Look at what he did to Harkin. Granted, that was a bit more complicated than a love triangle, but then he beat the crap out of him and possibly shot him, so I could see him at least throwing a punch at Kaidan. Especially if you take turian honor into account (granted, he's not a very good turian). Kaidan didn't just turn his back on Shepard, he turned his back on the unit!

... I kind of want to see him toss Kaidan like a ragdoll. >_>;;

siltsonata wrote...

Oh man though, could you imagine choosing Kaidan? I'm...I'm pretty sure Garrus wouldn't really ever get over that. He was so insecure in the first place.:( He'd "respect your decision" and everything, but he'd be crushed, and he probably wouldn't ever let anyone else in for the rest of his life.

Gosh, I've watched him die, and I've told him at the last minute we should just be friends, but not even I would try that option. It would be horrible. :crying:

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Garrus could always suggest that Kaidan and he test out their reach & flexibility in the ring. The good 'ol turian way of resolving conflict/sexual tension! ...and if they hooked up it would be the ultimate CRITICAL MISSION FAILURE.

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...
It would be horrible. :crying:



"Shepard?!" Garrus' jaw drops, a look of surprise and confusion on his face.

Shepard avoids eye contact with Garrus and leaves hastily. Kaidan, taking one last triumphant glance at Garrus, follows. Garrus merely stands, stunned at the events. His eyes dart around the room, still trying to process what just occurred. His mandibles quiver slightly.  His arm was still raised from his retaliation on Kaidan, but he let it fall. He swallows and hangs his head before leaving the room. The camera fades to black.

Sorry. My thought processes just had this scene. ....erm....yeah. :whistle:

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...
As much as I'd like to see him be all cool about it, Garrus does have a short temper when his emotions are involved.. Look at what he did to Harkin. Granted, that was a bit more complicated than a love triangle, but then he beat the crap out of him and possibly shot him, so I could see him at least throwing a punch at Kaidan. Especially if you take turian honor into account (granted, he's not a very good turian). Kaidan didn't just turn his back on Shepard, he turned his back on the unit!

... I kind of want to see him toss Kaidan like a ragdoll. >_>;;


Unfortunately, this is probably because Harkin was a criminal, and a former crooked cop.  If there's one GarrusButton you do not want to push, it's that one.  That's how people end up dead.  

I'd be very surprised if he lost his cool with a teammate who has essentially done nothing wrong (Although you know Garrus is still at least a little sore over the Horizon treatment.)


@Tootles: OH MY GOD:lol:, you know I just imagined Garrus and Kaidan making out while the screen goes CRITICAL MISSION FAILURE, complete with the soundtrack.  The music is what really brings it home. (I can't decide if I want brain bleach or not due to the aforementioned making out.:unsure:

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siltsonata wrote...
@Tootles: OH MY GOD:lol:, you know I just imagined Garrus and Kaidan making out while the screen goes CRITICAL MISSION FAILURE, complete with the soundtrack.  The music is what really brings it home.

SAAAREEEEENNN!! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAAAULTTTT!

SOMEHOW!!!

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enormousmoonboots wrote...

siltsonata wrote...
@Tootles: OH MY GOD:lol:, you know I just imagined Garrus and Kaidan making out while the screen goes CRITICAL MISSION FAILURE, complete with the soundtrack.  The music is what really brings it home.

SAAAREEEEENNN!! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAAAULTTTT!

SOMEHOW!!!


That's the one!

(Wasn't sure if everyone else was as big a soundtrack nerd as I am to know the track by title...since Saren's theme doesn't actually seem to often play while he's onscreen.:P)


And It can't be Saren's fault.  He's too busy spinning crazily in his grave because now Shepard has caused two turian/human hookups.  That hoor.

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Tootles FTW wrote...

This is why I always bring Garrus with me to Horizon - I always Posted Image a little inside when he defends me against Kaidan's onslaught of derpy-ness.

Yeah, it is really comforting the way he backs you up. classic Garrus! ;3

@Gar_Logan: Nooooo. :( The only way I could even let that happen is if Shepard had a moment of weakness and readily admitted her mistake, begging for Garrus' forgiveness afterwards.

"I know he's not half the man you are, and he's not the one I want. I was weak, and here he was, gently weeping as he begged for me to take him back between pathetic sobs, and all the while you.. You were... calibrating!"

:P

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siltsonata wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

siltsonata wrote...
@Tootles: OH MY GOD:lol:, you know I just imagined Garrus and Kaidan making out while the screen goes CRITICAL MISSION FAILURE, complete with the soundtrack.  The music is what really brings it home.

SAAAREEEEENNN!! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAAAULTTTT!

SOMEHOW!!!


That's the one!

(Wasn't sure if everyone else was as big a soundtrack nerd as I am to know the track by title...since Saren's theme doesn't actually seem to often play while he's onscreen.:P)


And It can't be Saren's fault.  He's too busy spinning crazily in his grave because now Shepard has caused two turian/human hookups.  That hoor.

DAT SOUNDTRACK. God, I love ME's soundtrack; it's one of the playlists I listen to in the car on the way to school. I always seem to pick up something new when I fully listen to it--I love that you can hear bits of the Spectre Induction theme in stuff like the Suicide Mission tracks. Continuity, it's goddamn amazing. I've never heard such a well-composed WRPG soundtrack.

And I do love that the game conditions you, Pavlov-style, to hate Saren before you even really meet him, because every time he shows up on screen the back of your mind goes HHNNNAGSFNAH WHY DOES THE MAKO DRIVE INTO LAVA STUPID COLOSSUS WHY WERE THERE SO MANY KROGANS AND THEIR STUPID SHOTGUN MISSILES. Bloody genuis, on Bioware's part.

Saren spinning in his grave could probably generate enough energy to keep Feros up and running for Shiala's lifespan...boy, would that make him mad.

#1047
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I just saw Advice!Garrus on 4chan. I am...so proud of you guys. :crying:

And now for something completely stolen from how i met your mother. (sorry, it's probably really long...)
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Kaidan: Hey, Commander. Look at this. I was just cleaning some stuff out and I came across this.
Shepard: Aw, it's a picture from our shore leave after we saved the Citadel!
Kaiden: Mm-yeah, I dunno if you'd even want it, but if you do it's yours--
Shepard: I SLEPT WITH GARRUS.
Kaidan: ...you what?
Shepard: It was before we invaded the collector base. You were such a b*tch to me on Horizon and Garrus was looking really good to me with that scar...And, and we came to realize how much we trusted each other. We weren't going to tell you but...*sigh* I'm sorry. I just had to.
Kaidan: ...
Shepard: And...I just hope that we can still be friends.
Kaidan: Of course we can still be friends.
Shepard: So you're not mad?
Kaidan: Well, it's a little weird, but umm...no, I'm not mad.

[LATER AT A BAR ON THE CITADEL]
Garrus: ...Wow. So, you're not mad?
Kaidan: No! I'm not mad. I mean, Shepard died over two years ago. I should have moved on since then, and I don't blame her especially considering our encounter on Horizon--
Garrus: I know. I was there.
Kaidan: Seriously, though. I'm fine with this.
Garrus: *sigh* I am so relieved to hear you say that.
Kaidan: Yeah, yeah. Oh. Hey, I just remembered...my mom is coming to visit the Citadel tomorrow. MAYBE YOU'D LIKE TO NAIL HER, TOO!
Garrus: owo;
Kaidan: Do you know how many females are in this Galaxy? And you had to sleep with OUR Commander, the woman I was seeing until she died? Are you kidding me?! Shepard??
Garrus: Y-you think I'm proud of this? Ok, well, maybe I am...but it happened.
Kaidan: How did it happen, huh, Garrus? I wanna know exactly how it happned.
Garrus: You mean...what position?

[Kaidan begins pelting Garrus with bar nuts]

Garrus: Okay, okay! You're pissed! You deserve to be! Fine, you know what? One free shot. On me. Anywhere-but-the-face. [raises his claws to shield mostly the scarred area of his face]

[Kaidan goes for the "quads"]

Garrus: Hnnnguh! Who...punches someone in the groin?? Okay. Okay, I deserved that. But what's important now is that we're past this whole Commander Shepard thing, right? So--
Kaidan: You think that this is just about Shepard? This is about...You know what, Garrus? Earlier today I started to put together a box and that box was labelled "stuff I have no use for."
Garrus: What does that mean?
Kaidan: It means...maybe you belong in that box.
Garrus: ...are you saying you don't wanna be bros anymore?
Kaidan: I'm saying I don't want to be friends anymore.
[FIN...?]
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I originally wanted to draw this out (or photoshop Garrus' and Kaidan's heads on Barney and Ted from that how i met your mother scene) but then I realized how LONG it was.

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EDIT: Holy crap...forum formatting went to hell...

So normally I don't like announcing projects and things in advance because I'm godawful when it comes to meeting deadlines, but I figured with a sudden resurgence in "Papa Vakarian" talk, I might as well try to get a general consensus. Brace for tl;dr...


I've been throwing around the idea for a few days, and I'm now finally getting around to writing out a fan-screenplay of sorts in which Shepard and the rest of the Normandy crew find themselves on Palaven in order to get the ship
repaired following the Omega-4 mission. While it seems like a stretch that the Turians would welcome a human commander and her Cerberus crew/ship, there are a few things I've considered:
  • If the Paragon route was taken, and Shepard effectively gives TIM the finger at the Collector base, it means that there are likely no funds available from Cerberus (NOTE: This is from a story perspective. I know that you still have money in the post-game). Add to that the fact that Shepard's crew and ship are still affiliated with Cerberus, at least to the uninformed, and the list of those willing to help shrinks dramatically. Some of this was hinted at when you visit the Citadel; despite being a Spectre, and a hero, the Council wants nothing to do with you and Cerberus...even if you no longer work for them.
  • The original Normandy SR-1 was co-designed by both Turian and Alliance engineers, and reflects upon both in aesthetics and layout philosophy. The SR-2 was of a similar design, vastly improved upon, albeit in more human ways. While the crew is capable of patch jobs and systems upgrades, large scale repairs still need to be handled at a drydock. For the reasons in the above bullet point, taking the SR-2 back to a Cerberus base for repairs is no longer feasible, which leaves bringing the craft to an Alliance base, a Turian one, or taking the risk of docking at a non-military port.
To further tip the scales in the Turian favor, I needed a driving element. Luckily, the nature of the Citadel Council, and how it reflects our modern-day United Nations, as well as the codex entries related to the Turian hierarchical structure, helped me create a “loophole” of sorts that puts the Normandy on Palaven. I’ll touch a bit more on it later on down the posting.

Now, on to the juicy bits related to our favorite Turian…

Working out the details of the Vakarian household has been a bit challenging, primarily when trying to figure out a timeline of events that shaped both Garrus and his father that fits what we know about Turians, and what we know about Garrus personally. Since there is literally no information about Garrus’ family except for a few spoken lines in ME1, most of what I’ve been trying to do is centered around explaining Garrus’ choice of words; specifically, the fact that he only refers to his father, his father’s attitude towards Spectres, and almost nothing about “my family” or “my mother”. While it might be a stretch of reasoning, whenever I’ve heard someone talk in this manner (by referring only to one parent, rather than “parents”), it generally means that the family unit is divided in some way, or that the animosity is so great between child and parent that the relationship is heavily strained. However, it is in how Garrus mentions his father that makes me think it’s not hatred that separates them, but rather, some sort of event which caused them to both take separate paths. The comments Garrus makes seems to be an attempt to differentiate himself from his father, either out of spite, or because he sees his father as someone unwilling to take action. Calling him a “by the book C-Sec officer” and mentioning his distrust for those with too many freedoms helped me a bit in creating a path of actions.

Because of this, I decided that the best course of action to take when regarding Garrus’ father was to make a character that fit within the guidelines of existing lore, but wouldn’t come across as antagonistic. I wanted to see a character that was a foundation for Garrus, but different in his own right. While doing this, I was also considering whose acting ability would fit the bill for this character, and went back to one of the first comments I had made in the original Garrus thread…but more on that a bit later.

So now comes the laying out of a timeline of events that coincide with what already exists in the Galactic Codex.

Knowing what we know about Turians, mandatory military service starts at age 15, with most soldiers entering the reserve forces around the age of 30. However, while enrollment in the service is mandatory, staying within it is not (note that it is uncommon for a Turian to leave the service until his 30s). Additionally, C-Sec itself has a fairly stringent policy on admissions, despite some evidence to the contrary. According to the codex, a C-Sec applicant must be sponsored by a high ranking councilmember or ambassador. This means that there is some flexibility in regard to the time of Garrus’ exit from the service and his joining of C-Sec, so long as there exists some method for his sponsorship in C-Sec. However, the two elements that are proving to be a challenge to work around are:
  • Garrus mentioning that he grew up on Palaven.
  • Garrus’ father being a long-time C-Sec officer
Additionally, I’ve been mulling around some other elements that could play into the story, such as:
  • Venari Pallin’s rise to Executor status.
  • Turian Hierarchy and the Citadel Council.
  • The nature of Garrus’ father becoming a “by the book C-Sec officer” and his reasons for the quote “Do things right or don’t do them at all.”
  • Garrus’ advocate for his C-Sec candidacy.
At the moment, I think I have a general idea which should coincide with the timeline of events. I’m still working out the details of exact dates, but so far, here’s the general order of things:
  • Garrus is born on Palaven.
  • Garrus’ father fights in the first contact wars.
  • Garrus’ father joins C-Sec at some point before Garrus enters the military. Becomes an investigator.
  • Garrus joins the military.
  • Garrus’ mother joins C-Sec. Becomes a crisis negotiator.
  • Some time passes with relative normalcy.
  • Garrus nominated for Spectre training. (Note: the timing for this event isn’t set just yet. I might move it to after the “Incident” occurs once I do a more thorough look at the timeline.)
  • “Incident” – This is the event that causes the split between Garrus and his father…and I’m not going to spoil it. :bandit:
  • Garrus’ admission to the Spectre training program is blocked.
  • Garrus joins C-Sec.
  • Garrus’ father leaves C-Sec and returns to Palaven. They do not speak to each other after parting ways.
  • Events of ME1 and ME2.

So that’s the general gist of events that make up the Vakarian timeline before this fan-screenplay takes place. To set the stage for the screenplay, which I’ve tentatively named Homecoming, here are some other details:
  • The events of Homecoming take place 3 months after the Omega-4 suicide mission.
  • Yes, this story does include a FemShep+Garrus pairing. Yes, the crew knows about it. No, I’m not going to do something pornographic. No chafing.
  • Miranda will get a fair amount of “screen time”.
  • Joker, Grunt, Kelly, EDI, and even Kasumi will make an appearance.
  • There won’t be any combat/gunplay in the screenplay. Most of the focus is on the people featured.
Now, I did mention earlier covering the “loophole” and potential cast, so here’s some “cast announcements (which might give a small hint as to what kind of direction I’m taking ^_^) :
 

Mark Harmon as Gelin VakarianA former C-Sec investigator and soldier, known for stern attitude and motto “Do things right, or don’t do them at all.” He is the father of Garrus Vakarian. Following an incident on the Citadel, he retired from his duties and returned to the Turian homeworld of Palaven.

 
Avery Brooks as Primarch FeylKnown for his “radical” views, the outspoken Feyl makes no secret his disdain for the actions taken during the First Contact War, and the relatively impassive behavior of Citadel Council in regards to the Sovereign attack. While his beliefs garner support from both offworlders and his own people, Feyl’s true motivations remain unknown.


Hope you guys enjoyed the read. Lemme know what you think!

Also, and this is a minor detail, which origin should Shepard have in this story? The character so far is going to be primarily Paragon in actions and behavior, but I’m torn between giving her a Colonist or Spacer background. I could really go either way, and it affects a few conversations.




tl;dr summary:

I’m writing a fan screenplay. I don't know when I'll have it done. I’ve taken careful consideration of the events. Garrus and his father Gelin (fan-named) will be featured in it. Turian culture will be covered in passing. We meet a Primarch with pro-human views and some ulterior motivations. No combat, but plenty of character.

Modifié par Jytra, 24 février 2010 - 07:31 .


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The Turian Councilor and Harbinger were talking on Facebook earlier. I lol'ed. Seriously have you seen the stuff on facebook? Some of what Lorik is posting makes me laugh my *** off.

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The Turian Councilor and Harbinger were talking on Facebook earlier. I lol'ed. Seriously have you seen the stuff on facebook? Some of what Lorik is posting makes me laugh my *** off.

"Ah yes, "alimony". My lawyers have dismissed this claim."

@aznsoisauce: lol! Is it bad I totally heard a laugh track a few times there?