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[Xaila]

koucha wrote...

This isn't anywhere near done yet but I thought I'd just share it here. Real one is a lot bigger but w/e. I also don't really like the default female Shepard so I put in my own (or maybe I'll toggle helmet, not sure yet.) And yes, Mordin is my second favorite.

Wow, that's really nice.  Makes me almost LIKE his loyalty armor.  And your Shepard is really pretty...looks a bit like mine in the face.

[Lady Dino]

Being a Vanguard, and being someone who even in ME1 never went any where without Garrus, I have trouble finding a 3rd squadie that complements my tendency to run in and kill things with a shot gun while Garrus snipes them from a far. Normally I try to bring a techy like Tali, her drone helps keep the heat off me in a tight spot, but that's her only redeeming ability. I played with Mordin through most of the game but through most of the game he died and used up all my medi-gels.

Any suggestions?

[Lady Dino]

Xaila wrote...

koucha wrote...

This isn't anywhere near done yet but I thought I'd just share it here. Real one is a lot bigger but w/e. I also don't really like the default female Shepard so I put in my own (or maybe I'll toggle helmet, not sure yet.) And yes, Mordin is my second favorite.

Wow, that's really nice.  Makes me almost LIKE his loyalty armor.  And your Shepard is really pretty...looks a bit like mine in the face.

 How did I not see this? It looks awesome btw! Can't wait till you finish it!

[SavageLycan]

aznsoisauce wrote...


Ok. I'm going to get away from that thread on 4chan now.

*deep breath*

BOW CHICKA BOW WOOOW

[onibontan]

Lady Dino wrote...

Being a Vanguard, and being someone who even in ME1 never went any where without Garrus, I have trouble finding a 3rd squadie that complements my tendency to run in and kill things with a shot gun while Garrus snipes them from a far. Normally I try to bring a techy like Tali, her drone helps keep the heat off me in a tight spot, but that's her only redeeming ability. I played with Mordin through most of the game but through most of the game he died and used up all my medi-gels.
Any suggestions?

I'm a Vanguard too and I like using Miranda as a 3rd squadmate. As a Vanguard you might wanna bring someone who can soften up the enemies armor/shields so you can charge in and shotgun them in the head =) Miranda is useful for this since she has Warp and Overload. In the Horizon mission Grunt is your friend ... he eats Husks for breakfast 

What bonus talent did you pick? I hear Reave or AP ammo is a good choice. I went with AP ammo so I can pretend Garrus taught it to my Shep 70% more damage to armor and health doesn't hurt too.

[Lady Dino]

Honigkuchenpferd87 wrote...

Lady Dino wrote...

Being a Vanguard, and being someone who even in ME1 never went any where without Garrus, I have trouble finding a 3rd squadie that complements my tendency to run in and kill things with a shot gun while Garrus snipes them from a far. Normally I try to bring a techy like Tali, her drone helps keep the heat off me in a tight spot, but that's her only redeeming ability. I played with Mordin through most of the game but through most of the game he died and used up all my medi-gels.
Any suggestions?

I'm a Vanguard too and I like using Miranda as a 3rd squadmate. As a Vanguard you might wanna bring someone who can soften up the enemies armor/shields so you can charge in and shotgun them in the head =) Miranda is useful for this since she has Warp and Overload. In the Horizon mission Grunt is your friend ... he eats Husks for breakfast 

What bonus talent did you pick? I hear Reave or AP ammo is a good choice. I went with AP ammo so I can pretend Garrus taught it to my Shep 70% more damage to armor and health doesn't hurt too.

I started out with barrier but later swapped it for AP ammo. The plus damage to armor is a must since I have no weapons that are actually effective on armor. Garrus' loyalty mission with the two heavy mechs made me realize this. Oh Garrus the lessons I learn from you. <3

Speaking of his loyalty mission, did anyone else skip the paragon moment with Harkin? I did simply because I trusted Garrus to do the right thing and not kill him. Though I was a little surprised when he shot him in the leg. After that I was like "Garrus! Go take a chill pill!" 

Edit: Weird formating... 

Modifié par Lady Dino, 24 février 2010 - 02:29 .

[onibontan]

No I did the paragon interrupt because Garrus said something like "I don't mind slowing you down a little". I suspected he'd shoot Harkin in the knee or something. Btw is Garrus' loyalty mission nerve-wracking or what?? I went into it not having spoilt myself and was so relieved to find out there was a Paragon way out of it ...

[squidbunny]

koucha wrote...

This isn't anywhere near done yet but I thought I'd just share it here. Real one is a lot bigger but w/e. I also don't really like the default female Shepard so I put in my own (or maybe I'll toggle helmet, not sure yet.) And yes, Mordin is my second favorite.

Man, keep us posted on your progress with this.  It's looking amazing.

Speaking of WIPs ... Did you ever finish the pictar you were working on, Ravenstar?  If so I can't find it.

[StaR_JeS]

Both of Garrus' squadmate acquisition and loyalty missions were nail-biters for me. I seriously was yelling (and whimpering) at my screen when Garrus was blasted in the face by the gunship. I recall saying something along the lines of, "Why, Bioware, why do you have to be so cruel?! YOU GIVE HIM TO ME FOR 10 MINUTES AND THEN MERCILESSLY KILL HIM???!!!" Giant wave of relief when he came stalking into the comm room 30 seconds later...

[Sialater]

aznsoisauce wrote...

I just saw Advice!Garrus on 4chan. I am...so proud of you guys. 

And now for something completely stolen from how i met your mother. (sorry, it's probably really long...)
--

Kaidan: Hey, Commander. Look at this. I was just cleaning some stuff out and I came across this.
Shepard: Aw, it's a picture from our shore leave after we saved the Citadel!
Kaiden: Mm-yeah, I dunno if you'd even want it, but if you do it's yours--
Shepard: I SLEPT WITH GARRUS.
Kaidan: ...you what?
Shepard: It was before we invaded the collector base. You were such a b*tch to me on Horizon and Garrus was looking really good to me with that scar...And, and we came to realize how much we trusted each other. We weren't going to tell you but...*sigh* I'm sorry. I just had to.
Kaidan: ...
Shepard: And...I just hope that we can still be friends.
Kaidan: Of course we can still be friends.
Shepard: So you're not mad?
Kaidan: Well, it's a little weird, but umm...no, I'm not mad.

[LATER AT A BAR ON THE CITADEL]
Garrus: ...Wow. So, you're not mad?
Kaidan: No! I'm not mad. I mean, Shepard died over two years ago. I should have moved on since then, and I don't blame her especially considering our encounter on Horizon--
Garrus: I know. I was there.
Kaidan: Seriously, though. I'm fine with this.
Garrus: *sigh* I am so relieved to hear you say that.
Kaidan: Yeah, yeah. Oh. Hey, I just remembered...my mom is coming to visit the Citadel tomorrow. MAYBE YOU'D LIKE TO NAIL HER, TOO!
Garrus: owo;
Kaidan: Do you know how many females are in this Galaxy? And you had to sleep with OUR Commander, the woman I was seeing until she died? Are you kidding me?! Shepard??
Garrus: Y-you think I'm proud of this? Ok, well, maybe I am...but it happened.
Kaidan: How did it happen, huh, Garrus? I wanna know exactly how it happned.
Garrus: You mean...what position?

[Kaidan begins pelting Garrus with bar nuts]

Garrus: Okay, okay! You're pissed! You deserve to be! Fine, you know what? One free shot. On me. Anywhere-but-the-face. [raises his claws to shield mostly the scarred area of his face]

[Kaidan goes for the "quads"]

Garrus: Hnnnguh! Who...punches someone in the groin?? Okay. Okay, I deserved that. But what's important now is that we're past this whole Commander Shepard thing, right? So--
Kaidan: You think that this is just about Shepard? This is about...You know what, Garrus? Earlier today I started to put together a box and that box was labelled "stuff I have no use for."
Garrus: What does that mean?
Kaidan: It means...maybe you belong in that box.
Garrus: ...are you saying you don't wanna be bros anymore?
Kaidan: I'm saying I don't want to be friends anymore.
[FIN...?]
--
I originally wanted to draw this out (or photoshop Garrus' and Kaidan's heads on Barney and Ted from that how i met your mother scene) but then I realized how LONG it was.

THIS is how it should go.  Totally.

[onibontan]

squidbunny wrote...

Man, keep us posted on your progress with this.  It's looking amazing.

Speaking of WIPs ... Did you ever finish the pictar you were working on, Ravenstar?  If so I can't find it.

Seconded! Please finish your fanarts, both of you!!

[Gerse1]

[quote]snu55lepuff wrote...

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Really, I understand. I'm a student, so I have a ton of free time, and I just kept myself awake on caffeine and other such stimulants, only sleeping when needed (see: in class).

But, yeah. I played the **** out of it in the first week. So addicted.


First playthrough I really felt like I explored. Listened to all the dialogue. Thought about my decisions. Took me about 20 hours.

Second playthrough switched it up, went renegade instead of paragon. Lot more dialogue to explore, but I x'd through the repetitive stuff. Took about 16 hours.

All the others were just random explorations and stuff. Every playthrough except the first had all crew member survive the suicide mission. Miranda died on the first because I didn't have high enough paragon points to charm her and Jack's fight. Did their loyalties right after one another

The only thing I find frustrating about this game is explaining why I, as a male, like playing Femshep. I realize it's a game, and it's not like I'm making this a self-insert character. I just chose FemShep at a whim to be a special snowflake in ME1, and it's the character I imported every time (with variations to face and class and such) in ME2. She's the character for me, and I don't want her to be lonely, so she stuck with Garrus.

But, yeah. I'll definitely slow down a bit in ME3. I enjoyed the hell out of ME2, and didn't feel like I rushed. But, I think I'll pace myself next time.

[/quote]


Hah, well, please, play them however you want (not that you wouldn't).  Trust me if I could have played ME2 for 7 days straight when it first came out I would have too .  It's more me feeling like the little kid yelling "hey, hey guys, wait for me! let me catch up!" when I'm forced to spend the whole day working on a 40-page paper or something while everyone else is at home flirting with Garrus....wahhhhhhhh, and 82,309 spoilers are up on youtube within 5 hours of release.

Yeah I never ran into the Miranda/Jack problem just out of luck, but it's too bad they designed it that way. Also I agree all the people who argue in other threads about which gender is "ok" to play in respect to your own are pointless.  My main is a femShep but I also have male Shepard saves I'm going to use eventually.  Honestly if it were Mark Meer who was the great VA and Hale who sounded like a robot (no offense to people who like Meer hehe) my main might be reversed..

[Sialater]

In ME1, the "A" Team was Kaiden and Garrus. In ME2, it's Garrus and Miranda. "B" Team is Thane and Tali or Thane and Garrus. I usually play a Vanguard.

[Gerse1]

Tootles FTW wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...
Even if it just turns out to be an argument, I hope we get some kind of conflict. That was my favorite part of having two options in KOTOR2 (yeah yeah, not BioWare, I know), the juicy conflict! If there is an argument, I sure hope Garrus (or any ME2 interest) throws in a 'You abandoned her! I was here for her when you weren't!' sort of thing in there... Saying all the things my FemShep can't say because she's supposed to be Paragon... xD

This is why I always bring Garrus with me to Horizon - I always  a little inside when he defends me against Kaidan's onslaught of derpy-ness.

(not to say that I didn't find Kaidan's unreasonable anger strangely sexy...ahem...GARRUS FORUM! GARRUS FORUM!  Shoo, thoughts!)

Garrus never defended me on Horizon.  Do you have to choose specific dialogue to trigger it? (i.e. renegade v. paragon towards Kaiden)

[Sialater]

Gerse1 wrote...

Tootles FTW wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...
Even if it just turns out to be an argument, I hope we get some kind of conflict. That was my favorite part of having two options in KOTOR2 (yeah yeah, not BioWare, I know), the juicy conflict! If there is an argument, I sure hope Garrus (or any ME2 interest) throws in a 'You abandoned her! I was here for her when you weren't!' sort of thing in there... Saying all the things my FemShep can't say because she's supposed to be Paragon... xD

This is why I always bring Garrus with me to Horizon - I always  a little inside when he defends me against Kaidan's onslaught of derpy-ness.

(not to say that I didn't find Kaidan's unreasonable anger strangely sexy...ahem...GARRUS FORUM! GARRUS FORUM!  Shoo, thoughts!)

Garrus never defended me on Horizon.  Do you have to choose specific dialogue to trigger it? (i.e. renegade v. paragon towards Kaiden)

I don't actually want Garrus to defend Shepard, even if he did on Horizon.  Shep's a big girl, she can throw Kaiden biotically all by herself.  Or punch him, or whatever.  While the sentiment is nice, Shep doesn't need a man of any species to stand up for her honor.

[Lareit]

Gerse1 wrote...


Garrus never defended me on Horizon.  Do you have to choose specific dialogue to trigger it? (i.e. renegade v. paragon towards Kaiden)

Don't take Miranda or Jacob

Garrus is the dominate personality after them.

[Gerse1]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Gar_Logan wrote...

I could see them arguing, and it escalating. Kaidan going overboard, but stopping when Shepard gets there. And then Garrus would punch him out. Just how I see it. Afterwards, Shepard would have to make the choice. (Obviously, everyone here would choose Garrus over Kaidan.) If done right, the scene could be pretty powerful for all three characters. Kaidan would have to move on, Garrus would feel further solidified as Shepard's companion, and Shepard...well, she would probably feel a number of things in regards to the two.

As much as I'd like to see him be all cool about it, Garrus does have a short temper when his emotions are involved.. Look at what he did to Harkin. Granted, that was a bit more complicated than a love triangle, but then he beat the crap out of him and possibly shot him, so I could see him at least throwing a punch at Kaidan. Especially if you take turian honor into account (granted, he's not a very good turian). Kaidan didn't just turn his back on Shepard, he turned his back on the unit!

... I kind of want to see him toss Kaidan like a ragdoll. >_>;;

siltsonata wrote...

Oh man though, could you imagine choosing Kaidan? I'm...I'm pretty sure Garrus wouldn't really ever get over that. He was so insecure in the first place. He'd "respect your decision" and everything, but he'd be crushed, and he probably wouldn't ever let anyone else in for the rest of his life.

Gosh, I've watched him die, and I've told him at the last minute we should just be friends, but not even I would try that option. It would be horrible.

Yeah, much like with "I love you", I can see Garrus getting physical but only under very special circumstances.  It's true he's generally a cool cat on the surface, but he's also pretty passionate about things, and when people push his buttons (Saleon, Fist, Harkin, Sidonis) he's shown he thinks violence can be the answer. Those guys are criminals who deserve it, and not a rival lover, but Shep's important to him just like his Omega squad was, and maybe more.   Plus, I like to think you can take the turian out of Palaven, but you can't ever completely lose that turian honor...so yeah, it would still come down to Kaiden's behavior most likely, whether he insults G or Shep, or throws the first punch, or what not.  (Hard to imagine Kaiden throwing a punch either though.)  Soap opera material or not....I'd really like to see them get in a little scuffle over my Shep ^^

[Sialater]

Lareit wrote...

Gerse1 wrote...


Garrus never defended me on Horizon.  Do you have to choose specific dialogue to trigger it? (i.e. renegade v. paragon towards Kaiden)

Don't take Miranda or Jacob

Garrus is the dominate personality after them.

I took Jacob.  I'm pretty sure Garrus still defended me (I could be wrong, though).  Maybe it's just Miranda?

[enormousmoonboots]

aznsoisauce wrote...


Ok. I'm going to get away from that thread on 4chan now.

How many of you are over there, anyway? I see stuff from here pop up in the Garrus threads within hours (really warms the ****les of my heart to see Advice Garrus has a bit of staying power, though).

Also, TEAMMATES: Like I said before, Miranda goes good with just about anyone (passive damage bonuses + Warp + Overload = excellent skillset). Grunt is good if you're a mid/long-range Shepard, since he's the best close-range fighter in the game; at his max passive skill he can regenerate 55 health a SECOND. Take Thane or Legion (Legion get a better gun in the Widow and more survivability with Geth Shield Boost, but Thane has tasty, tasty Warp) with an Infiltrator or Soldier Shepard to turn the game into Silent Scope (the AI gets an uncanny amount of headshots, so always give them sniper rifles). Mordin comes with Incinerate to compliment Garrus's Overload, and his Cryo Blast is great, but he is fairly squishy.

I never got a lot of use out of the biotic characters (Jack and Samara spent a looot of time eating dirt), so I can't tell you much about their capabilities. Tali, for the most part, is totally outshined by Legion (they have almost the same skillset, but Legion is a long-range fighter whereas Tali is close-range; guess which squishy engineer will last longer).

It all really comes down to the fact that certain characters are better for certain enemies; take Tali to fight vorcha and krogan, for example, and you're wasting her skills. Garrus is pretty versatile; Overload gives him an edge with synthetics, Concussive Shot can help with biotics, and AP Ammo rounds him out nicely against armor and health. You can take pretty much anyone with him; just take whoever compliments your playstyle.

Modifié par enormousmoonboots, 24 février 2010 - 04:25 .

[WindOverTuchanka]

Gerse1 wrote...

 it would still come down to Kaiden's behavior most likely, whether he insults G or Shep, or throws the first punch, or what not.  (Hard to imagine Kaiden throwing a punch either though.)  Soap opera material or not....I'd really like to see them get in a little scuffle over my Shep ^^

Am I the only one who thinks that Garrus would go all gentlemanly on Kaidan, and continue down the route 'He's your species, I'll step aside and just stand there as if nothing has happened, no sweat'
Kaidan, on the other hand, would pout, and look hurt. And when punched, Kaidan would probably start crying out of self pity and flood the engineering. No punching Kaidan, for Normandy's sake.

[silentstephi]

Maybe it's just me, but I'm partial to the Earthborn start. I mean... if you want to go for a Shepard who can watch and learn what it's like when you have family to deal with. My orphaned Shep was kind of like... "Ok, everyone has family problems... wtf?!" when it came to this game.



But if you want a Shep that's going to be able to sympathize with Garrus and his home probs, then yea, the other two backgrounds might be a better bet.



All in all, the whole outline looks killer!

[Neria Rose]

silentstephi wrote...

Maybe it's just me, but I'm partial to the Earthborn start.

I've tried each of the backgrounds (can't remember if I finished all of the games, though), but I ultimately prefer the colonist start. After trying the other two once, I can't bring myself to play any other except the colonist.

Same with sole survivor. I've tried the other two military backgrounds and I just can't do it. Sole survivor has my favorite side quest for the military.

Modifié par Neria Rose, 24 février 2010 - 05:03 .

[bushes289]

Neria Rose wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

Maybe it's just me, but I'm partial to the Earthborn start.

I've tried each of the backgrounds (can't remember if I finished all of the games, though), but I ultimately prefer the colonist start. After trying the other two once, I can't bring myself to play any other except the colonist.

Same with sole survivor. I've tried the other two military backgrounds and I just can't do it. Sole survivor has my favorite side quest for the military.

At first I always did earthborn/warhero but I'm doing a renegade playthrough now so I chose earthborn/ruthless and found that I absolutely love renegade Shepard with renegade Garrus much more than paragon Shepard and paragon Garrus. The renegades work well together but the paragon takes on to much of a mentor student dynamic throughout both games.