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[Nivenus]

I think, as others have said, it has to do with the fact that Garrus has a really small hatedom. Ashley, Jacob, Liara, Miranda, Kaidan, Tali... they all have people who absolutely hate them. I've yet to really run into a Garrus hater. I'm not entirely certain why that is, but I think it may have to do with the fact that A) he's rough around the edges, and people love generally that in a character (and especially a romance), and the behavior his more extreme (female) fans exhibit is considered more acceptable because he's a male character.



That's just my 2 cents though, so take it as you will.

[siltsonata]

janeym27 wrote...
I am finally home and on my lappy, and I think it's time for wine. Garrus Happy Hour, mark 2! Any joiners.

-_____-  

I git so much of da jealouzness when you start your happy hour and I still have an hour of class left.

Edit: Umanix, GTFO with your awesome drawing abilities.  You're making my RETARD!GARRUS look less amusing and whimsical and more.....well. STUPID. 

Modifié par siltsonata, 15 avril 2010 - 10:31 .

[janeym27]

@siltsonata To be fair, it is 11.30 here.

OK. I relented and tried my hand at Garrus Art. And here it is:


Now before you say anything, that is Garruas as viewed up close after blindly crashing into him, after one of Kasumi's falsh grenades went off too close to them, while they were both vying for a kill, just at the point where Shep's vision was almost about to recede from it's most damaged. I'll think you'll find that, as impressionist interpretations go, this is dead on.

But, no. No Garrus Art will I ever make. *sad face emoticon*

@Umanix. Awesome.

Modifié par janeym27, 15 avril 2010 - 10:39 .

[silentstephi]

Uma, it looks awesome, keep it up!

Janey, wooo! I may join youin Happy Hour... Facebook is a cruel mistress. I found my highschool crush on there, and guh, he's still hottern' hell.

Totally not fair.

Niv, I have come across someone who hates Garrus, rabidly, but I have yet to figure out why s/he hates Garrus.



I'm alllllllmost finished with Meta's ME Meme, I might post a link to it here later, cause I have a few Garrus panels... but it's epic wang... -.-

I feel like I'm just doing a coloring book. Nyar....

[Cerrydd]

No happy hour for me again... more like almost bedtime.

I WILL be drinking tomorrow night, but unfortunately no drunk PT or posts from me. BF will be celebrating his birthday and I don't want to be rude to the guests to keep F5-ing this thread .

Finally took the quiz, I totally forgot about that. I was distracted because of the Garrus art ^^ (damn you Umanix ). I got 75% neutral good, 65% true neutral and 60% of chaotic good. I'm good.

Edit: Damn you Janey, your Garrus art makes my Garrus art look like crap.

Modifié par Cerrydd, 15 avril 2010 - 10:42 .

[siltsonata]

Whut quiz? Must've missed it...

[janeym27]

silentstephi wrote...

Uma, it looks awesome, keep it up!
Janey, wooo! I may join youin Happy Hour... Facebook is a cruel mistress. I found my highschool crush on there, and guh, he's still hottern' hell.
Totally not fair.
Niv, I have come across someone who hates Garrus, rabidly, but I have yet to figure out why s/he hates Garrus.
.

The more the merrier! I may do a Vanguard mish or two in a bit, for the lulz.

Facebook can indeed be cruel. But it can also be wonderful: I discovered the guy who made my life hell in school went bald! (ah... a shallow victory, but it felt so damn good. heh heh)

Your friend hates Garrus? Sounds like denial or somthing to me...

Yeah... I agree on the smaller hatebase thing. But I'm quite glad this fanthread isn't as fast as some of the others - I'd never catch up!

[silentstephi]

Alignment Quiz thing
Was from like 7 pages back, I got a tie between Chaotic Good and Neutral Good. go figger...
xD
I... def have to say I don't agree with the guy that posted the original pictures. I can't see Garrus as LawfulStupidGood. He's not a Paladin. I can see him being Chaotic Good, for SURE. But not LG.
Anderson, I can see him being LG, he's not a squaddie though. XD

Edit: fixing link... cause it's stupid

Modifié par silentstephi, 15 avril 2010 - 10:51 .

[enormousmoonboots]

aznsoisauce wrote...

Speaking of alignments...I recently saw this:


Lawful Good? Garrus? Discuss!

I had thought of my own Shepard as one of the Neutral alignments (particularly chaotic neutral) but according to this quiz, she's Lawful Evil. Like Darth Vader. 

Morinth is totally CE. I don't know what that image is on about. Also, why is Tali wearing headphones?

I always liked this alignment quiz (I damn near tied Lawful Neutral, Chaotic Good, and Lawful Good...not sure what that says about me).

It's important to remember that several party member's alignments are somewhat malleable (Garrus, Jack, Mordin, etc). For example, I'd call Jack CE when you first meet her, can work up to CN if you Paragon her. I think Garrus waffles between NG and CG, depending on where you go with him.

There is a modern effort to try and make LG 'cooler', which bugs me, but I do appreciate that it's becoming a little less confining. Strictly speaking, lawful just means that a character strictly follows a code (obviously, LE characters do not follow laws like a paladin would). Samara kills a lot of people, but I'd put her under LG because she is very faithful to a moral code, and that code is formed in the name of justice. She's let a target escape because an innocent was in danger, which proves that she's focused to overall good. I still think Garrus wouldn't fit, though; you can persuade him too easily. LGs are too set in their ways (just try to convince Batman to kill someone, I'll wait). I do think Papa Vakarian is probably LG, though, going by what we hear about him.

[Flammie]

Cerrydd wrote...

Haha yeah, impression of paperbag Garrus is great.
Someone
(can't remember who) once wrote multiple Garrus's as Garri. It looks
cute until I pronounce it, because it sounds like Gary which is a
boring name.

I saw that... I think I prounounced it "Gah-rye"

Sialater wrote...

Not if I draw it.

I'll stick with writing.

Probably this.

Eh, perhaps I'll try my hand at it sometime or later, maybe, when hell freezes over.


Hmm... just a thought, since we were talking about pets, how do you think Garrus will handle children? No, I don't mean mutant kids, let's NOT open that up again, but I mean as in just kids around him, or maybe one starts talking to him, how would he handle it?

I think it'd be an interesting thought. We never see teenagers or children in Mass Effect. A shame. I'd have liked a kickass teen in Shep's squad, unlikely and impossible as that is.

Teacher: Children, we have a visitor today, he's a member of C-Sec and he's here to teach you all about safety, please welcome Officer Vakarian!

*mini applause*

Garrus: Um...

Human kid: What are those weird things on your face?

Garrus: Um...

Human kid: Why do you have big hips?

Garrus: Um...

Human kid: Can I play with your gun?

Garrus: Um...

*kid touches sniper rifle*

*accidently fires, and kid runs away screaming*

Garrus: Well... one less to worry about.

Modifié par Flammie, 15 avril 2010 - 10:53 .

[Nivenus]

The chart's got some things right and some things wrong - at least from my perspective (and, I will admit I think I have a pretty good understanding of the alignments given the amount of reading I've done on the subject for my campaigns). Jack's closer to chaotic neutral than Morinth by a long shot and Mordin's closer to a neutral good or true neutral. But then, a lot of people misinterpret willingness to kill as a sign of "chaotic" temperament, rather than non-good.



I agree with pretty uch everything else on the chart though.



Samara is borderline lawful good, lawful neutral. She follows a code to the letter, so she's definitely lawful, but she can be ruthless to an extent that the rules that define the alignments specifically warn against (mercy and forgiveness are considered two of the primary virtues of good).



Garrus is definitely not lawful. His war against the mercenaries isn't because they're illegal - they're not and it's his actions that are outside of the law. It's because they cause misery for others. Now, that would still allow him to sneak into lawful good easily enough if he was following a personal code, but I see no evidence to suggest this. He seems to call it as he sees it, which strikes me as either neutral good or chaotic good.



Under the right circumstances, though, a renegade Shepard can easily push Garrus into going neutral for the same reasons that Samara is lawful neutral. He evades it pretty easily though if you play a paragon and convince him to tone it down.

[janeym27]

The citadel presidium. Shepard wanders over to Garrus with a prma.

Shepard: Garrus, I promised this human woman I'd take care of him for her while she sorts things out with her boyfriend, so I could up my paragon score. But now I'm bored and I'm going to go wind up that mean C-Sec Officer. Can you do me a favor and watch little Sammy for a minute?

Garrus: What? I- I'm not... *sighs* Sure thing, Commander.

Shepard gives him the pram. The baby is asleep. Garrus watches it. Curious, he gets in close, and prods it. It burbles a little bit. He smiles, and prods it again, slightly harder. The baby wakes up and looks up at Garrus. He smiles a wide and toothy smile at it. Baby starts to scream.

Garrus: Oh, crap! Sssshhhh.

He picks Sammy up and holds him awkwardly.at arms length. The baby is screaming and squirming.

Garrus: Hey, kid. It's OK. Stop crying. Please?

He becomes aware that a crowd of humans have gathered and are viewing him angrily. He gives the baby a gentle shake, kn a bid to sooth it. This makes things worse. Suddenly somone shouts out.

Human Woman: My baby! Help! That turian is trying to eat him!!!

Garrus: What? That's rediculous. I don't even-

A large handbag hits him on the head, he stumbles back, almost dropping Sammy. Someone grabs the kid from him, and the crowd kick him about a bit. He is too bewildered to fight back.

Shepard comes running over.

Shepard: Garrus, what the hell happened?

Garrus: I don't know. I -

Human Woman: Monster!

She lands a final blow on Garrus, then storms off with little Sammy, who is now smiling happily at Garrus. Garrus is dazed.

Shepard: Well, I hope you're happy. Now I don't have enough points to solve any conflicts I may come accross. You know what that means?

Garrus: Please, Commander, no.

Shepard: Next time Jack and Miranda get into a fight, you can deal with it! I'm away to look at fish.

[Flammie]

Haha, I love how your Shepard refers to game mechanics. Garrus should have pulled the "choose Jack and deal with Miranda later" card.

It'd be funny if he reacted badly, but I dunno, I have this image of Garrus finding a human kid abandoned by his strict, xenophobic Alliance parents, and Garrus taking the kid in and letting him live with him in his apartment, until he can get the kid into a shelter. But they still know each other really well, and are good friends. And the kid follows Garrus onto Shepard's squad, and he's quite persistent about it, much to everybody's dismay.

...Of course, this is my fantasy of a perfect platonic relationship with him. Heheheh...

I've done the quiz. Got a Neutral Good. Thing is, I wimped out, and only really used the middle options, only moving once to the left or right for some questions.

I remember a personality quiz I took, and I kept alternating between INTP and INFP.

I've also played around, and I thought this was a strange, crappy impression of Garrus:

Modifié par Flammie, 15 avril 2010 - 11:26 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Damn it, i took the quiz and i'm lawful evil. I feel bad now

[janeym27]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Damn it, i took the quiz and i'm lawful evil. I feel bad now

I know, right? It sounds like the ultimate douchebag result.

Also, @Cerrydd - Oh, don't I know it! I think I'm gonna start a gallery or something, I rawk so hard. (but you keep practising. One day, maybe you'll be as talented as me. Keep at it! )

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True neutral.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

janeym27 wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Damn it, i took the quiz and i'm lawful evil. I feel bad now

I know, right? It sounds like the ultimate douchebag result.

Also, @Cerrydd - Oh, don't I know it! I think I'm gonna start a gallery or something, I rawk so hard. (but you keep practising. One day, maybe you'll be as talented as me. Keep at it! )

Ya ino, i mean like, i tend to be a little renegade when it comes to breaking some rules to help others but that doesn't make me a total douche does it?

[Collider]

I never really liked the alignment tests because of the use "good" and "evil." I'd prefer instead calling "good" "light" and "evil" "dark."



Garrus is renegade, but I'd either put him as Chaotic Good or True Neutral, more so the former.

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I don't know how anyone can hate Garrus. Different strokes I guess.

[Collider]

Yikes, wall of text and only vaguely Garrus related so, umm, what kind of character arc do you think we could see for Garrus in ME3?  How do you think his alignment might shift depending on how we swayed him?  Or do you just think he'll stay the same regardless of what we do as he did in ME2?

I'm hoping Garrus is more influenced by how we mentored him than he was influenced in ME2. In ME2 we really only had a few lines change at most. I don't want Garrus to turn into Saren (not that I think he would even come close to that realistically) if we steered him renegade both times, though. That'd be pretty stupid.

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social.bioware.com/892908/polls/2680/ 
also, related poll

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High five