@Umanix. I was thinking the same thing, re: Archangel. I don't know if assuming it was entirly random is right (bioware has some clever peeps, and this game has layers a go go, man!) but it's more the degree to which this symbolism will be employed. Like you, I enjoy specualting. lol Shaded for people who get irked by idle specualtion.
The whole 'Lucifer thing' really popped into my head while thinking about this. Now, the whole 'Garrus as betrayer' train of thought really winds people up, which is why I never went into it, but if you follow this metephor, then it puts Garrus in a prime place to betray Shep in ME3. However, one of my fave Lucifer myths is the one where he is cast doen because god commanded the angels worship no one but him, then after he created man he commanded the angel to also bow to man, and Lucifer loved god too much and was too loayl to the earlier commandment to bring himself to do it. He was therefore condemmed to hell to suffer forever, seperated from the one he loved (god). Now, if you take this and apply it to Garrus, it gives you betrayal storylines which could actually make sense for the character. For example: Garrus 'betray's Shepard not by attempting or willingly screwing him/her over, but by acting in a way which is true to his own beliefs. Maybe he feels that a course of action that Shepard is taking is not something he agrees with, or he feels that Shepard is betraying him/herself through her actions, and acts to prevent this but it goes wrong/is misinterpreted. We know how loyal Garrus is to Shep to the point that his personality seems malleable to Shepard's but what if this apparent aligning with Shepard is a way of illustraing this, and then when the time comes where Garrus cannot align his beliefs with Shepard's actions, there is an overdue reaction.
Now, obviosuly, this is my random though train, and I hope this never comes to pass, but as I said, I enjoy specualtion. Also, I disagree with the people who say that Garrus could NEVER be a convincing betrayer. I think he'd be a poor choice on Bioware's part (and as has been pointed out, they do lvoe them some betrayal) but there are ways that it could work with his character, and following the Archangel line is one of them.
Also, Lucifer was 'the light bearer': Thanix Cannon lights up pretty good. 
In any case: feel better, Umanix.
The whole 'Why didn't Garrus change more after I paragon'd him in ME1' complaint puzzles me. I've heard people giving off about the fact that they had to 'paragon him twice' and this annoying thme because he should have learned his lesson the first time. Garrus is passionate, and lets his heart get in the way of his head spur of the moment. Nobody changes their personality overnight, after one mission. Shepard showed him a different way of resoolving things, but I'd hardly call the Dr Saleon event a lifechanginf one. After all, while Garrus took it personally, it wasn't quite the same as being personal. Now Sidonus, that's another story. Sidonus was about as personal as things get for Garrus, and Garrus is a man who carries his mistakes. It makes sense that the outcome of that will affect him more than the Saleon one.
Also, remember that between Shep helping Garrus with Saleon and meeting up with him on Omega, Garrus has been through a pretty tough two years. As I said, no one's outlook changes completely overnight, and Garrus does make the effort to follow the path Shep has set him on (Spectre or C-Sec). But then, Shepard dies. Garrus loses his anchor, so to speak, and once again is left to find his own way. He does this by following the path he knows best: fighting for justice regardless of the red tape. His single mindedness cloud his judgement on that sometimes, but he's always doing what he thinks is right. Now, after he feels like his actions get his squad killed, this changes comething in him, and he goes hell bent for leather to get the people responsible: justice for his men and pennance for himself. And can you blame him? This time, the problem Shepard his helping him solve is a life-changing one: it has already proved so once. The outcome of Shepards guidence this time will doubltless have a much more profound effect on him this time around, either way.
If ME2 had included a Garrus who was back at C-Sec, or Spectering around the galaxy happy as a clam, I'd have called OOC. I think this was a fantastic place to take Garrus for ME2, and I trust that in ME3 we'll get a much more varied Garrus experience. ME2 had to be fairly restrained in terms of hwo many differences in the story it could have, because it's all setting up for ME3. ME3 is a finalie, so the writers can go nuts with diverging pathways!
Wow - I typed too much. Not even sure how much of that makes sense at this point. lol
So, to wine and vanguarding!!!
EDIT: Why won't my post formatting and editing work tonight?!!
Sorry guys.
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Ssorry, guys. I really don't want ot open up the betrayer discussion again, 'cos people just get wound up. It's just this conversation with Umanix got me thinking, and then my brain went off on one. lol
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It was fairly good, even with obviousness of trying to sneak in nudity into the game.
