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[Collider]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Yeah it is kind of insane how blase everybody is. Your old squadmates all have that "whoa" moment but I think if somebody were to come back to life that would be all anybody in the universe would be talking about.

I would think that most peope would assume Shepard was just under the radar, thinking Shepard essentially was brought back from the dead is a pretty large leap of faith. It is the future, but from all of the money and time spent on the Lazarus Project, you get the impression that this kind of thing was revolutionary, but also something hard to believe.

[Flammie]

Ever considered compiling your responses into one post, kglaser?

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Yeah it is kind of insane how blase everybody is. Your old squadmates all have that "whoa" moment but I think if somebody were to come back to life that would be all anybody in the universe would be talking about.

I agree, but I'm not sure Bioware would have been able to do and sustain the whole "OMG YOU'RE ALIVE AFTER BEING DEAD!!!11111!!!!!!!!1!1" attitude. But yeah, they don't seem particularly concerned. You could maybe try and attribute it to the "professional military mind", or as Collider said, maybe thinking that Shepard wasn't actually dead all this time, somehow. Liara gave the body, so she shouldn't be as concerned that Shepard's alive, but I'm wondering about Joker, who actually saw Shepard get spaced.


...Ever considered sleeping Flammie? It's late.

All right.

Night all. ~.~

Modifié par Flammie, 16 avril 2010 - 01:35 .

[Collider]

When you see Joker again in ME2 he's already been helped by Cerberus, he wouldn't be surprised about Shepard seeing as he probably already got the run down by Cerberus themselves. I don't think Joker would be one to be apologizing profusely to Shepard, and I don't think it was really his fault either that Shepard died, at all, really.

[Ray Joel Oh]

All these people being concerned about being off topic. I'm sure Mr. Woo was responding to the debate I started all those hours ago with my doodle shenanigans, not with anything we were actually discussing. Don't worry about it so much.

[Kotori Ky]

Well, most mundane people would go 'Oh... she never died at all, it was all a Specter thing. Dratted Special Ops types.'



Joker joined up with Cerberus, so he was probably let in on the info awhile ago and went through his stages of 'wtf'



Tali and Garrus going 'wtf' would have made more sense. Liara knew. Kaidan/Ash have their fits and come around after they've had time to think.

[Collider]

Then again, Shepard is no ordinary human.

[siltsonata]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

All these people being concerned about being off topic. I'm sure Mr. Woo was responding to the debate I started all those hours ago with my doodle shenanigans, not with anything we were actually discussing. Don't worry about it so much.

I do recall a time when the thread as a whole was more on-topic than we currently are...but the thing is, we've talked about most of the things there are to talk about Garrus.   Now it's mostly sharing. (Kinda like the Tali thread but nowhere near as bad)  And every once in a while then old topics resurface and we talk them to death again.   We're still quite on topic, relative to...other threads.

[Ray Joel Oh]

Kotori Ky wrote...

Well, most mundane people would go 'Oh... she never died at all, it was all a Specter thing. Dratted Special Ops types.'

Joker joined up with Cerberus, so he was probably let in on the info awhile ago and went through his stages of 'wtf'

Tali and Garrus going 'wtf' would have made more sense. Liara knew. Kaidan/Ash have their fits and come around after they've had time to think.

Tali seems pretty stunned.  And Garrus seems tired but surprised.  I guess they figured having your squadmates go "HOLY ****!!  HOLY ****!!  WHAT ARE YOU--WHAT!!  HOLY ****!!" five times over would have gotten old.

[Collider]

I think there is potential for the Garrus and Tali to mention in their romances reflecting how they could have lost Shepard that day when the collectors attacked the Normandy. Would make for some great dialogue, I would think.

[janeym27]

Wow - I fall off the internets for about 10 mins, and the conversations has plowed forward. You guys realise we've done 45 pages in a day?!



@Umanix: You, sir, have a sick mind!



I know: the whole Sshep being dead thing didn't really surprise anyonw. but then again, Liara kind of knew, Wrex seemed oblivious to the fact that she had even died, Joker had been briefed, Tali... Tali should have been more like 'OMG!'. I don't think Garrus was in the right headspace when Shepard came back, and then, after he had actually gotten used to the idea, it was like' Well, what did I expect? Shepard is a badass.'. Theonly one that kind of annoyed me was the reaction of Anderson and Kaiden. Anderson was balse and disapprovinf of Cerberus, and Kaiden was downright angry. You'd think if a person you cared that much for came back to life, you'd be at least a little happy about it. Mind you, maybe they didn't know if they could take it as true. In any case, Shepard is quite blase about it as well. "Two years? I've been gone that long?" "Yep." "Okie dokie." No attempts to contact friends or loved ones (asking about the squad doesn't count), no "Do they still have malamars?" Not even a "What happened to my stuff?" I know she's mission focused and all, but come on!



I once had a dream (and I remember it vividly to this day as if it were real) that I was part of the TMNT. It was SPECTACULAR!!! Garrus related dreams along the same ass-kicking lines would be most welcome (I have a habit of dreaming so vividly, I momentarily confuse them for reality. Case in point: I once got all teary in telling my mum I was pregnant at 14, before catching myself on and going, 'wait a minute... the biology here has gone very wrong somewhere. Thsi baby ain't Jesus.' Thankfully, my regualr brain caught up just in time. lol)



Why would you beat up Eddie Murphy? You just watched Dave? (sorry - dumb joke!)







Anyone remember the order you have to romance multiple LIs in order for Garrus to be the one you end up with? I enjoy talking with Thane, but this is a Garrus run, so I don't want to get blocked...

[Ray Joel Oh]

siltsonata wrote...
I do recall a time when the thread as a whole was more on-topic than we currently are...but the thing is, we've talked about most of the things there are to talk about Garrus.   Now it's mostly sharing. (Kinda like the Tali thread but nowhere near as bad)  And every once in a while then old topics resurface and we talk them to death again.   We're still quite on topic, relative to...other threads.

Maybe it's because I came in some hundred plus pages into the second thread, but I don't see a problem here.  I'll be sad if the way we've been conducting ourselves isn't up to code.  This is a fun way of going about things, imho.

Garrus garrus garrus has nine pointy thingies on his head.

[AngryP1xel]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...
And Garrus seems tired but surprised.

I don't think tired is a strong enough word.  Completely exhausted seems better.

[siltsonata]

Collider wrote...

I think there is potential for the Garrus and Tali to mention in their romances reflecting how they could have lost Shepard that day when the collectors attacked the Normandy. Would make for some great dialogue, I would think.

I'm still sticking to the idea of Garrus not being aware of his feelings for Shepard/not actually falling for her until the middle of ME2 theory, so I don't really want to see anything regarding the Normandy attack in Romance dialogue. Feels kinda cheesy to me.  (OPINION OPINION OPINION, not knocking on anybody who likes this!)

That's not to say that Tali and Garrus didn't go through something terrible to lose their friend/mentor/commander like that, but while Tali would be like "OMG NOOOO Now I'm never gonna hit that!"  My headcanon Garrus would only experience the loss of a friend and mentor.  Enough to hurt him quite a bit, but not in the Love Interest, "MY WORLD ENDED WHEN YOUR LIFE DID OMG thing"

I realize this might not be a popular view of it, so again: OPINION OPINION OPINION.  (opinion doesn't look like a word anymore.)

[janeym27]

AngryP1xel wrote...

Ray Joel Oh wrote...
And Garrus seems tired but surprised.

I don't think tired is a strong enough word.  Completely exhausted seems better.

Agreed. When you first meet him on Omega, he is totally burned out. I didn't realise it at first because I was too musy squeeing and going 'OMG! Garrus!', but on replays, on that first conversation ,he just sounds broken. I mean, he still has his sense of humor ("It wasn't easy - I really had to work at it."), but you can tell it's a struggle to even have the conversation. He just sounds so...low. It made me sad.  (Brandon Keener pulling it out of te bag, yet again!)

[Ray Joel Oh]

siltsonata wrote...

Collider wrote...

I think there is potential for the Garrus and Tali to mention in their romances reflecting how they could have lost Shepard that day when the collectors attacked the Normandy. Would make for some great dialogue, I would think.

I'm still sticking to the idea of Garrus not being aware of his feelings for Shepard/not actually falling for her until the middle of ME2 theory, so I don't really want to see anything regarding the Normandy attack in Romance dialogue. Feels kinda cheesy to me.  (OPINION OPINION OPINION, not knocking on anybody who likes this!)

That's not to say that Tali and Garrus didn't go through something terrible to lose their friend/mentor/commander like that, but while Tali would be like "OMG NOOOO Now I'm never gonna hit that!"  My headcanon Garrus would only experience the loss of a friend and mentor.  Enough to hurt him quite a bit, but not in the Love Interest, "MY WORLD ENDED WHEN YOUR LIFE DID OMG thing"

I realize this might not be a popular view of it, so again: OPINION OPINION OPINION.  (opinion doesn't look like a word anymore.)

Naw, I agree that Tali's reaction to her crush being lost would be a lot different than Garrus's reaction to his mentor being lost, but I still think there would be a lot of drama there and good fodder for LI-specific conversation.  Same goes for all the other LIs who were in ME1.  And I think that would be something that they would all continue to work through, particularly for the ones who didn't come back as squadmates in ME2.

[AngryP1xel]

janeym27 wrote...

AngryP1xel wrote...

Ray Joel Oh wrote...
And Garrus seems tired but surprised.

I don't think tired is a strong enough word. Completely exhausted seems better.

Agreed. When you first meet him on Omega, he is totally burned out. I didn't realise it at first because I was too musy squeeing and going 'OMG! Garrus!', but on replays, on that first conversation ,he just sounds broken. I mean, he still has his sense of humor ("It wasn't easy - I really had to work at it."), but you can tell it's a struggle to even have the conversation. He just sounds so...low. It made me sad. (Brandon Keener pulling it out of te bag, yet again!)

He also had to stop and catch his breath a couple times. He was breathing heavy and his eyes were half shut. I wonder how long it had been since he'd slept or eaten.

Modifié par AngryP1xel, 16 avril 2010 - 02:01 .

[janeym27]

Arcian wrote...

siltsonata wrote...

OPINION OPINION OPINION.  (opinion doesn't look like a word anymore.)

Looks like a longer ONION to me.

Onions have many layers. *sage nod*

[Ray Joel Oh]

Aww poor Garrus. Sad to see all those dead bodies next to his bed.

[Collider]

siltsonata wrote...

Collider wrote...

I
think there is potential for the Garrus and Tali to mention in their
romances reflecting how they could have lost Shepard that day when the
collectors attacked the Normandy. Would make for some great dialogue, I
would think.

I'm still sticking to the idea of Garrus
not being aware of his feelings for Shepard/not actually falling for
her until the middle of ME2 theory, so I don't really want to see
anything regarding the Normandy attack in Romance dialogue. Feels kinda
cheesy to me.  (OPINION OPINION OPINION, not knocking on anybody who
likes this!)

I was thinking more along the lines of, say your
boyfriend or girlfriend or spouse, you can reflect that you may have never met
and/or have been with them if you never went to that concert or never
took that class in college. Garrus may not have had feelings then but he wouldn't have come to like Shepard if she had died and realize that's she's amazing if she died or she hand't recruited him again. I agree there may be more potential for Tali, but I do think Garrus can mention it as well.

Modifié par Collider, 16 avril 2010 - 02:04 .

[AngryP1xel]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Aww poor Garrus. Sad to see all those dead bodies next to his bed.

Glad I'm not the only one to notice the body bags scattered throughout the place.

[Jackalope]

Kotori Ky wrote...

Jackalope wrote...

Flammie wrote...
Maybe it'd be less disturbing if you consider it as Garrus being a visitor to Shepard being checked up on, and the father being an actual human, taking the picture, whose hand you can see?

...I'm laughing so hard right now.  I'm just thinking this is Shepard at the end of ME3...seriously, would Kaiden let Garrus into the room at that point?

Garrus: Er...I brought wine for the heppy couple?
Kaiden: What happened the last time you brought her wine?

.....I can't tell what makes me want to hurl more. The idea of mutant garrus baby or the idea of having Kaidan spawn.

Hey, I'm just saying the image appeared in my head.  Something awkward about Garrus showing up at such an intimate moment...that's not his.

And hey, better Kaiden than Jacob.